brenthutch 444 #26 November 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, jakee said: You haven’t listened to anything Trump has said at any point in this campaign? If you have been paying attention you should realize there is a big difference between what Trump says and what he does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, kallend said: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” attributed to H.L. Mencken "There's a sucker born every minute"; P.T. Barnum Ya, there sure is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #28 November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, brenthutch said: If you have been paying attention you should realize there is a big difference between what Trump says and what he does. I thought a "promise made was a promise kept". What is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #29 November 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, Phil1111 said: I thought a "promise made was a promise kept". What is it? I’ll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #30 November 6, 2024 6 hours ago, nigel99 said: ... I’ve asked time and again here for any policies of Trump and it’s been crickets. Come Jan. 20th everyone will find out. Does anyone think that trump's promise to only be a dictator for a day will stand.That he will have discipline to control his baser instincts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #31 November 6, 2024 Just now, brenthutch said: I’ll build a wall and Mexico will pay for it So that was some sort of ultra secret preamble for what happened yesterday? So that now he can begin mass deportations on Jan. 21? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #32 November 6, 2024 Just now, Phil1111 said: So that was some sort of ultra secret preamble for what happened yesterday? So that now he can begin mass deportations on Jan. 21? Relax Phil it’s going to be ok, the deep state will prevail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,728 #33 November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: Relax Phil it’s going to be ok, the deep state will prevail. It'll be okay for me, for sure. But it won't be for the people for whom I was willing to sacrifice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danornan 79 #34 November 6, 2024 18 minutes ago, brenthutch said: If you have been paying attention you should realize there is a big difference between what Trump says and what he does. It's the same for most politicians. None should be judged by what they say, only what they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #35 November 6, 2024 Apparently the big brains on Wall Street approve of Trump 2.0 with Dow futures up 1000+ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #36 November 6, 2024 2 minutes ago, brenthutch said: Relax Phil it’s going to be ok, the deep state will prevail. America is very unhappy with current conditions. trump will be unable to address those concerns except for perhaps immigration. The trade wars he starts from tariff impositions will lead to inflation. His further pandering to christians will also cost him support. Obviously America will survive trump. But like his other endeavours like casinos, steaks, colleges, etc. He will make a big mess out of everything and leave unpaid debts in his wake. We need to start counting how many laws, felony charges, he racks up in his second term. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #37 November 6, 2024 Just now, brenthutch said: Apparently the big brains on Wall Street approve of Trump 2.0 with Dow futures up 1000+ No that would be the anticipation of trillions in more debt sloshing through America. Extended tax cuts and the elimination of the IRS. Brent, lay off the champagne and bourbon. There is always a hangover after a big party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #38 November 6, 2024 From the Babylon Bee “America unburdens itself from what has been” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,728 #39 November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, brenthutch said: From the Babylon Bee “America unburdens itself from what has been” I don't American has unburdened itself from a has been. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #40 November 6, 2024 4 hours ago, kallend said: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.” attributed to H.L. Mencken "There's a sucker born every minute"; P.T. Barnum "There's a sucker born again every minute.". Pat Robertson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 15 #41 November 6, 2024 1 hour ago, jakee said: You haven’t listened to anything Trump has said at any point in this campaign? Calling him racist and misogynistic is not going to win any races. The public sees through the act and are sick of it. Find a new tactic that persuades the public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #42 November 6, 2024 1 minute ago, base698 said: Calling him racist and misogynistic is not going to win any races. The public sees through the act and are sick of it. Find a new tactic that persuades the public. In a post-truth world (yeah, I think we're heading there), what exactly matters? Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 15 #43 November 6, 2024 Just now, wmw999 said: In a post-truth world (yeah, I think we're heading there), what exactly matters? Wendy P. Octavian drug Antony through the mud about courting Egypt thousands of years ago and Cicero wrote about swaying the public in the same era. Propaganda has been the defacto way to influence people for at least two thousand years. There were even writings about it that survive to this day. Bernays wrote "Propaganda" in 1920. The truth world never existed it's a phantom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #44 November 6, 2024 2 hours ago, brenthutch said: If you have been paying attention you should realize there is a big difference between what Trump says and what he does. Quite a non-sequitur you’ve gone for there. Anyway, the people who might have needed that message are all his rally goers who love him because he tells it like it is and keeps his promises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,500 #45 November 6, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, base698 said: Calling him racist and misogynistic is not going to win any races. The public sees through the act and are sick of it. Find a new tactic that persuades the public. It’s not an act, he is those things. Anyway, the answer seems to be no, you haven’t listened to anything he has said during this whole campaign. He attacks everyone on the left all the time. He attacks viciously, condescendingly and constantly. The lesson from this election is the tactic that works is to wallow in the mud. The mistake the dems made is being too polite, so the odd insults stand out too much. Edited November 6, 2024 by jakee 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base698 15 #46 November 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, jakee said: It’s not an act, he is those things. Anyway, the answer seems to be no, you haven’t listened to anything he has said during this whole campaign. He attacks everyone on the left all the time. He attacks viciously, condescendingly and constantly. The lesson from this election is the tactic that works is to wallow in the mud. The mistake the dems made is being too polite, so the odd insults stand out too much. https://x.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1854156674178633795 No one believes you, it was obvious if you followed any of the discourse not controlled by the legacy media. That's all I'm saying, whether he is or is not, or what I believe he is or is not. People do not believe the attacks and are tired of being called racists/misogynist/whateverist. GET BETTER MATERIAL IF YOU WANT TO WIN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #47 November 6, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, base698 said: https://x.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1854156674178633795 No one believes you, it was obvious if you followed any of the discourse not controlled by the legacy media. That's all I'm saying, whether he is or is not, or what I believe he is or is not. People do not believe the attacks and are tired of being called racists/misogynist/whateverist. GET BETTER MATERIAL IF YOU WANT TO WIN You forgot about garbage, turns out folks don’t like to be called garbage. (Or deplorable) Edited November 6, 2024 by brenthutch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #48 November 6, 2024 Funny, though, how it's just fine to call liberals child abusers, communists, and idiots. Those moving goalposts. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #49 November 6, 2024 9 hours ago, metalslug said: With all the sources independently available to you, free of any spin I could put on them, would you really still want to ask me? (as with yourself, I'm not even American). You'd be making the same mistake as nigel99. His last policies added more debt than any other president ever. Why is it that Republicans are not concerned about debt when it comes to R policies, but scream bloody murder when it comes to D policies? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #50 November 6, 2024 3 hours ago, brenthutch said: If you have been paying attention you should realize there is a big difference between what Trump says and what he does. There was a time when people were upset about politicians lying. Now it is applauded and rewarded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites