President Trump

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, brenthutch said:

Apparently the big brains on Wall Street approve of Trump 2.0 with Dow futures up 1000+

So what? Wall Street hit record highs under Biden and you claimed the economy was horrible.

Edited November 6, 2024 by SkyDekker

[brenthutch 444]

2 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

There was a time when people were upset about politicians lying. Now it is applauded and rewarded.

No, I think we are just used to it now. I’m still waiting for my healthcare cost to lower as Obama promised.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, base698 said:

Calling him racist and misogynistic is not going to win any races.  The public sees through the act and are sick of it.  Find a new tactic that persuades the public. 

The public doesn't care until it hurts them specifically.

 

First they came for....I didn't care

Second they came for....I didn't care

Third they came for....I didn't care

Then they came for me.....How could this possibly have happened

 

[brenthutch 444]

3 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So what? Wall Street hit record highs under Biden and you claimed the economy was horrible.

The voters thought the economy was horrible. QED

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The voters thought the economy was horrible. QED

So wall street records have nothing to do with the economy then?

Or are you saying voters are not smart?

 

[jakee 1,500]

50 minutes ago, base698 said:

https://x.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1854156674178633795

No one believes you, it was obvious if you followed any of the discourse not controlled by the legacy media. 

Why do I need to listen to the legacy media when I can just listen to what Trump himself says? Besides, the majority of people do believe it. Everyone who voted against him, a bunch of people who voted for him in spot of it and a bunch of people who voted for him because of it. The two most active republicans on this forum both say they believe it, they just don’t care because they think he’s an economy magician.

53 minutes ago, base698 said:

People do not believe the attacks and are tired of being called racists/misogynist/whateverist.

GET BETTER MATERIAL IF YOU WANT TO WIN

Again, if tris election result had anything to do with campaign styles then the lesson is to do more attacking against more people more of the time. I guess you spent too much time listening to your chosen media and not enough time listening to the candidates to know that.

[rushmc 23]

10 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So what? Wall Street hit record highs under Biden and you claimed the economy was horrible.

It is!

[wmw999 2,453]

12 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So wall street records have nothing to do with the economy then?

Or are you saying voters are not smart?

 

Any port in a storm, dude

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

18 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

So wall street records have nothing to do with the economy then?

Or are you saying voters are not smart?

 

Wall Street records would be broken by inflation alone, so no. The Dow is forward looking and it looks like it is predicting better times ahead.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Wall Street records would be broken by inflation alone, so no. The Dow is forward looking

lol

 

[brenthutch 444]

Mika wore black on Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning  

Edited November 6, 2024 by brenthutch

[base698 15]

27 minutes ago, jakee said:

Again, if tris election result had anything to do with campaign styles then the lesson is to do more attacking against more people more of the time. I guess you spent too much time listening to your chosen media and not enough time listening to the candidates to know that.

I didn't say attacks don't work.  I said THOSE attacks don't work.

[JoeWeber 2,731]

1 minute ago, brenthutch said:

Mika wore black on Morning Joe on MSNBC this morning  

Do a search, she often wears black.

[brenthutch 444]

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

Do a search, she often wears black.

The scarf took it to another level 

[kallend 2,027]

31 minutes ago, rushmc said:

It is!

Mine isn't.

[nigel99 490]

2 minutes ago, base698 said:

I didn't say attacks don't work.  I said THOSE attacks don't work.

Honestly, it’s not an attack it’s a statement of fact.

Very early on when we started discussing options to Biden here and discussed Harris, I think it was Wendy who said her biggest obstacle would be being a black woman in America. 

long ago I  learned to not ‘trust’ media and to listen to the source directly, so I have listened to a couple of Trump speeches and rallies, as well as one or two from JD Vance. The message was very clear from ‘their eating the dogs’ to ‘I’ll protect woman if they like it or not’

[jakee 1,500]

24 minutes ago, base698 said:

I didn't say attacks don't work.  I said THOSE attacks don't work.

That’s a very strange conclusion. The guy who has been attacking non stop for 10 years won. The people who only just started really attacking a month ago lost. People like John Kelly should have been calling Trump a fascist as soon as he left office and given it some time to really sink in. Again, if you think campaign style made the difference here then attack more with everything you’ve got is the clear lesson.

[kallend 2,027]

Trump carried over the line by poorly educated white males.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/exit-polls-2024-election/

 

[base698 15]

23 minutes ago, jakee said:

Again, if you think campaign style made the difference here then attack more with everything you’ve got is the clear lesson.

If you don't change the attack nothing changes.  For a third time, if you call people racist over and over it's not going to work. Look at the Hispanic numbers and the black vote.  It increased over 2020.

Attack, but for God sakes don't make it whateverism.

[airdvr 210]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Trump carried over the line by poorly educated white males.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/exit-polls-2024-election/

 

Being that you’re a part of the education system isn’t that a little like cutting off your nose?

[jakee 1,500]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

If you don't change the attack nothing changes.  For a third time, if you call people racist over and over it's not going to work. Look at the Hispanic numbers and the black vote.  It increased over 2020.

Exactly, the clear, obvious and easily supported attack of pointing out that he’s a massive racist wasn’t followed through anywhere near effectively enough. Trump said the Democrats were racist more often than they said he was. 
 

1 hour ago, base698 said:

Attack, but for God sakes don't make it whateverism.

The attacks against Trump are what-he-is-ism. 

[rushmc 23]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Trump carried over the line by poorly educated white males.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/exit-polls-2024-election/

 

 Harris didn’t outperform Biden in a single county  Just 32% of voters identified as Democrats  Trump won first-time voters by 9 points

[wmw999 2,453]

See my response in the other thread. One of those claims is untrue, and the other is misleading.

Wendy P. 

[brenthutch 444]

Word salad has been taken off the menu 

[jakee 1,500]

1 hour ago, brenthutch said:

Word salad has been taken off the menu 

Because the whale psychiatrist always makes perfect sense?