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President Trump

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JerryBaumchen    1,436

JerryBaumchen
  On 11/11/2024 at 10:02 PM, nigel99 said:

This is rapidly shaping up to be what people predicted. That Trump and Co learned from their mistakes the first time.

I think any hope that he will just play golf and stumble around ineffectively are rapidly disappearing.

We’ve seen 3rd world countries implode rapidly, and possibly the Uk post Brexit. This seems to be America’s hold my beer moment.

Hi Nigel,

I disagree.  Like Reagan did, he will put people in place & let them do what he wants done; so he can have lots of time to golf.

Like Reagan, Trump is not a micro-manager.  He might just leave that up to Vance.

Jerry Baumchen

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  On 11/11/2024 at 6:27 PM, billvon said:

In 1939 it was illegal for black men to serve as pilots in the US military.  Due to a DEI offensive from the NAACP, labor union leader A. Philip Randolph and Judge William H. Hastie, a war appropriations bill was passed containing funding to train black pilots.  This effectively legitimized the use of black pilots by the US military.  It was not without friction; a great many opposed it.  Major General Frank O'Driscoll Hunter, for example, insisted that "racial friction will occur if colored and white pilots are trained together."  But they persevered, and by the end of the war, this DEI squadron (also known as the Tuskeegee Airmen) flew almost 200 bomber protection missions, with a record of protecting bombers almost twice as well as the all-white squadrons flying at that time.  Overall the squadron received one silver star, 96 Distinguished Flying Crosses,14 Bronze Stars, 744 Air Medals and at least 60 Purple Hearts.  Proof of their unity, excellence and honor by any measure.

Martha McSally was one of the first women to fly for the USAF in combat.  She was able to do that as the result of a DEI effort to lift the prohibition against women in combat in 1991.  She ended up as a decorated squadron leader before retiring and becoming a US representative, where she served for two years in Congress.  She was part of several DEI lawsuits, including one against the DoD to end the requirement that women in the US military wear burqas when in public in Arab countries.  She was also raped by a superior officer, but managed to overcome that and still become squadron leader during her time in the service.

Leigh Ann Hester was a seargeant in the 617th Military Police Company.  In 2005 the supply convoy she was guarding came under attack by at least 50 insurgents.  She led her team to flank the attackers, and used grenades to end the threat.  At the end, there were 27 dead and 6 insurgents, with no losses of the US supply team.  She ended up with the Distinguished Service Cross.  Again an indication of unity, excellence and honor.

So I'd say that DEI has in fact done a lot for combat.  It is why black people and women can now serve in the military.  It has taken hard work, and overcoming the objections of people like General Hunter above, but we are all better off because of it.

 

I'll be repetitive for the point. My dad was a tail gunner in B-24's, shot down once and crashed on take-off twice.  He saw a lot of the serious action, Ploesti, etc. He said the bravest pilots he saw in the war were the Redtails. They stayed with the bombers through the flack and usually used a few of themselves as decoys while the rest flew high cover. He said his group lost a lot of planes to flack but never one to fighters when the Redtails were escort.

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normiss    851

normiss
  On 11/13/2024 at 4:47 PM, RonD1120 said:

Pete Hegseth Secretary of Defense, the change is coming. See the Shawn Ryan podcast on YouTube. 

We can have our own SS in no time.

No people of color, no women, no non-religious/not THE religion of the US people need to apply.

I foresee some Muhammad Ali type lawsuits. Or not, people would likely prefer to NOT serve in this type of military.

The desire to trash the US Constitution is beyond disgusting. 

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RonD1120    62

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  On 11/13/2024 at 5:02 PM, normiss said:

We can have our own SS in no time.

No people of color, no women, no non-religious/not THE religion of the US people need to apply.

I foresee some Muhammad Ali type lawsuits. Or not, people would likely prefer to NOT serve in this type of military.

The desire to trash the US Constitution is beyond disgusting. 

Republican President, Senate, and House of Representatives. It's looking good for America.

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nigel99    568

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  On 11/13/2024 at 5:50 PM, RonD1120 said:

Two different speres of consciousness. One is physical and one is spiritual. 

I’ll admit I don’t understand what you mean.

I was raised Christian and a few verses spring to mind regarding Trump.

1. By their fruit you will know them…

2. Thou shalt not steal, covert thy neighbours wife, take the lords name in vain

3. Defend the weak and the fatherless 

4. Whatever you did for the least of these you did for me…

5. Blessed are the poor/ harder for a rich man to enter heaven

I really struggle with the fact that evangelicals support a convicted rapist, conman and generally vulgar person, over a church goer who tends to follow the word of god. 

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RonD1120    62

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  On 11/13/2024 at 6:04 PM, nigel99 said:

I’ll admit I don’t understand what you mean.

I was raised Christian and a few verses spring to mind regarding Trump.

1. By their fruit you will know them…

2. Thou shalt not steal, covert thy neighbours wife, take the lords name in vain

3. Defend the weak and the fatherless 

4. Whatever you did for the least of these you did for me…

5. Blessed are the poor/ harder for a rich man to enter heaven

I really struggle with the fact that evangelicals support a convicted rapist, conman and generally vulgar person, over a church goer who tends to follow the word of god. 

Don't forget King David was an adulterer and a murderer. 

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billvon    3,070

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  On 11/13/2024 at 6:37 PM, RonD1120 said:

Don't forget King David was an adulterer and a murderer. 

Ron you officially win the Republican Three Step competition for all time.

1) Trump didn't do it!
2) OK maybe he did it but it's weaponized justice system, it's sour grapes, it's not that bad!
3) King David did it first.

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nigel99    568

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  On 11/13/2024 at 6:37 PM, RonD1120 said:

Don't forget King David was an adulterer and a murderer. 

I had forgotten that.

It’s fascinating how I was brought up that atheists had no moral compass. 40 years later I’m an atheist discussing with a Christian who is defending a person of no moral compass.

i can’t even begin to understand Christian morality. 

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RonD1120    62

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  On 11/13/2024 at 7:08 PM, billvon said:

Ron you officially win the Republican Three Step competition for all time.

1) Trump didn't do it!
2) OK maybe he did it but it's weaponized justice system, it's sour grapes, it's not that bad!
3) King David did it first.

I just realized, you were taught to believe in the system, I wasn't. 

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RonD1120    62

RonD1120
  On 11/13/2024 at 7:30 PM, nigel99 said:

I had forgotten that.

It’s fascinating how I was brought up that atheists had no moral compass. 40 years later I’m an atheist discussing with a Christian who is defending a person of no moral compass.

i can’t even begin to understand Christian morality. 

David had a heart for God. God looks at your heart not your intellect. 

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billvon    3,070

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  On 11/13/2024 at 7:31 PM, RonD1120 said:

I just realized, you were taught to believe in the system, I wasn't. 

Yes, I was taught to believe in the Constitution.  How sad that conservatives have abandoned it for a conman.

I may be remembering this incorrectly, but didn't you take an oath to defend it?  Is that no longer important?

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nigel99    568

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  On 11/13/2024 at 7:37 PM, RonD1120 said:

David had a heart for God. God looks at your heart not your intellect. 

If god looks at my heart and not my actions. I assume that I am predestined for heaven or hell? 

So what stops me from living a life of debauchery and making the most of my time here? 

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JerryBaumchen    1,436

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  On 11/13/2024 at 7:43 PM, nigel99 said:

If god looks at my heart and not my actions. I assume that I am predestined for heaven or hell? 

So what stops me from living a life of debauchery and making the most of my time here? 

Hi Nigel,

Absolutely nothing.  According to Christianity, you only have to accept Jesus Christ prior to your demise, to get into Heaven.

Total horsepuckey.

Jerry Baumchen

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normiss    851

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I reminded myself of the full verse....and now a reminder of why I love Jimmy.

 

Religion, religion
Oh, there's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning
Here we go now
Alright, alter boys

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa

Where's the church, who took the steeple
Religion is in the hands of some crazy-ass people
Television preachers with bad hair and dimples
The god's honest truth is it's not that simple
It's the Buddhist in you, it's the Pagan in me
It's the Muslim in him, she's Catholic ain't she?
It's the born again look its the WASP and the Jew
Tell me what's goin' on, I ain't got a clue

 

 

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