President Trump

[JoeWeber 2,720]

3 hours ago, airdvr said:

I preferred Trump's lies to Kamala's

Quantity over quality?

[metalslug 36]

9 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

If you think that counters the argument that the rise of Trump is very similar to the rise of Trump...

?? I had not yet seen anyone making that argument here, but suffice to say:  " Duh ! ".

If one cherry-picks enough you can make the rise of Trump look similar to a dozen other people, but Godwin liberals know where the best way to scare the electorate lies (well, they thought they did until earlier this week). 

Edited November 9, 2024 by metalslug

[RonD1120 62]

On 11/8/2024 at 1:44 PM, normiss said:

Which we never lost.

Let me clarify. We need to eliminate the Woke, DEI agenda in the upper echelon officers, i.e. the Pentagon, to restore the military ethos.

[gowlerk 2,190]

8 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Let me clarify. We need to eliminate the Woke, DEI agenda in the upper echelon officers, i.e. the Pentagon, to restore the military ethos.

Can they stay in the enlisted ranks?

[wmw999 2,444]

45 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Let me clarify. We need to eliminate the Woke, DEI agenda in the upper echelon officers, i.e. the Pentagon, to restore the military ethos.

In other words, get rid of the women, gays, etc who are currently serving their country? Or can the women still be nursies and USO girls?

Wendy P. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

6 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

In other words, get rid of the women, gays, etc who are currently serving their country? Or can the women still be nursies and USO girls?

Wendy P. 

Hi Wendy,

Well, at one time they were called Comfort Women.  So, that is a 3rd option.

Jerry Baumchen

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

In other words, get rid of the women, gays, etc who are currently serving their country? Or can the women still be nursies and USO girls?

Wendy P. 

DEI carries no weight in combat.  Unity, Excellence and Honor are the stock in trade of the military.

Integrity is not a function of sex or sexual preference.

NSA had a long-standing policy of excluding known homosexuals, mainly because the odds of a traitor being gay were well better than even.  Also, living a lie as matter of survival made polygraphs worthless - most gay applicants could lie without a flicker.

From the standpoint of combat, gay or bisexual soldiers are historically on a par with any (Alexander the great comes to mind).

If you were a little less strident, you might make your point better.  Your call.

[jakee 1,489]

38 minutes ago, winsor said:

NSA had a long-standing policy of excluding known homosexuals, mainly because the odds of a traitor being gay were well better than even.  Also, living a lie as matter of survival made polygraphs worthless - most gay applicants could lie without a flicker.

You of course realise that excluding known homosexuals does nothing whatsoever to rid you of the ones who are lying. It just makes the unknown ones you still employ more susceptible to blackmail.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

Hi folks,

This is from a CNN reader:  American citizens who voted for President Trump do not consider nor empathize for those who’ve suffered until they themselves are graced with misfortune.

As I continue to say:  It is all well & good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

Just wait until they come for you,

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,444]

5 hours ago, winsor said:

If you were a little less strident, you might make your point better.  Your call.

I’d probably be prettier if I smiled more, too

Wendy P. 

[winsor 236]

32 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

I’d probably be prettier if I smiled more, too

Wendy P. 

I ask too much.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

Hi folks,

Whenever I use the term MAGA-idiots, that is exactly what I mean:  Tim McGraw becomes MAGA target on social media without saying a word - oregonlive.com

Nuff said,

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,720]

8 hours ago, winsor said:

DEI carries no weight in combat.  Unity, Excellence and Honor are the stock in trade of the military.

Integrity is not a function of sex or sexual preference.

NSA had a long-standing policy of excluding known homosexuals, mainly because the odds of a traitor being gay were well better than even.  Also, living a lie as matter of survival made polygraphs worthless - most gay applicants could lie without a flicker.

From the standpoint of combat, gay or bisexual soldiers are historically on a par with any (Alexander the great comes to mind).

If you were a little less strident, you might make your point better.  Your call.

Damn she can be uppity at times. You really should have pointed out her complete ignorance of sexual fluidity in ancient Greece as a whole and also how the Spartans managed their sexual anger. For sure she needs to learn how to play nice.

[normiss 798]

20 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

Let me clarify. We need to eliminate the Woke, DEI agenda in the upper echelon officers, i.e. the Pentagon, to restore the military ethos.

At least you admit to not supporting the Constitution.

[winsor 236]

54 minutes ago, normiss said:

At least you admit to not supporting the Constitution.

WTF?

[Phil1111 1,149]

12 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Whenever I use the term MAGA-idiots, that is exactly what I mean:  Tim McGraw becomes MAGA target on social media without saying a word - oregonlive.com

Nuff said,

Jerry Baumchen

Never underestimate the willingness of MAGA to identify any person or concept as a target to hate. I mistakenly clicked on the FOX channel today for a couple seconds. They had identified Oprah Winfrey as the target of the minute. Falsely claiming that the Harris campaign had paid her $1 million for Oprah's endorsement of Harris. Oprah had been a long time democrat donor.

Any lie as an opportunity to hate is MAGA.

[tkhayes 348]

On 11/6/2024 at 11:55 AM, SkyDekker said:

So wall street records have nothing to do with the economy then?

Or are you saying voters are not smart?

 

neither, the message of fear and hate actually works and has for centuries.  They got immigrants to hate on immigrants, and they got everyone to hate on trans. 

10 people in a room, 8 of them just want to get on with life.  2 of them want to rule everything so they get 6 of the other 8 to hate on the remaining two.  And then they have an overwhelming majority.  It's one of the oldest playbooks in history.

This time they got already marginalized groups to hate on smaller portions of society and earned their votes with fear, despite then ending up voting against their own best interests.

Maybe the Democrats should just jump on board with hate and misogyny, and abandon all morals, ethics, democracy and the like.  Well actually, they should all just fucking resign, fold up the party and let the republicans rule iron fist and burn it to the ground.

[tkhayes 348]

2 hours ago, winsor said:

WTF?

you heard what he said... loud and clear.  You have already acknowledged in many other posts that you would rather have fascism than a socialist democracy.

Edited November 11, 2024 by tkhayes

[winsor 236]

19 minutes ago, tkhayes said:

you heard what he said... loud and clear.  You have already acknowledged in many other posts that you would rather have fascism than democracy.

Your reading comprehension needs work.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

WTF?

I'm guessing TF is that discrimination by a governmental agency is forbidden by the 14th Amendment. The issue is that we all seem to have our own views as to who is the discriminated against party. In Ron's interpretation, apparently, anyone not washed in the blood of Jesus Christ will do.

[normiss 798]

Just now, JoeWeber said:

I'm guessing TF is that discrimination by a governmental agency is forbidden by the 14th Amendment. The issue is that we all seem to have our own views as to who is the discriminated against party. In Ron's interpretation, apparently, anyone not washed in the blood of Jesus Christ will do.

Yahtzee!

[billvon 2,990]

22 hours ago, winsor said:

DEI carries no weight in combat.  Unity, Excellence and Honor are the stock in trade of the military.

In 1939 it was illegal for black men to serve as pilots in the US military.  Due to a DEI offensive from the NAACP, labor union leader A. Philip Randolph and Judge William H. Hastie, a war appropriations bill was passed containing funding to train black pilots.  This effectively legitimized the use of black pilots by the US military.  It was not without friction; a great many opposed it.  Major General Frank O'Driscoll Hunter, for example, insisted that "racial friction will occur if colored and white pilots are trained together."  But they persevered, and by the end of the war, this DEI squadron (also known as the Tuskeegee Airmen) flew almost 200 bomber protection missions, with a record of protecting bombers almost twice as well as the all-white squadrons flying at that time.  Overall the squadron received one silver star, 96 Distinguished Flying Crosses,14 Bronze Stars, 744 Air Medals and at least 60 Purple Hearts.  Proof of their unity, excellence and honor by any measure.

Martha McSally was one of the first women to fly for the USAF in combat.  She was able to do that as the result of a DEI effort to lift the prohibition against women in combat in 1991.  She ended up as a decorated squadron leader before retiring and becoming a US representative, where she served for two years in Congress.  She was part of several DEI lawsuits, including one against the DoD to end the requirement that women in the US military wear burqas when in public in Arab countries.  She was also raped by a superior officer, but managed to overcome that and still become squadron leader during her time in the service.

Leigh Ann Hester was a seargeant in the 617th Military Police Company.  In 2005 the supply convoy she was guarding came under attack by at least 50 insurgents.  She led her team to flank the attackers, and used grenades to end the threat.  At the end, there were 27 dead and 6 insurgents, with no losses of the US supply team.  She ended up with the Distinguished Service Cross.  Again an indication of unity, excellence and honor.

So I'd say that DEI has in fact done a lot for combat.  It is why black people and women can now serve in the military.  It has taken hard work, and overcoming the objections of people like General Hunter above, but we are all better off because of it.

 

[kallend 2,026]

I see that the new border czar is going to be they guy who came up with the scheme to separate children from their parents in Trump 1, and the Deputy Chief of Staff is to be the chief fascist. 

[normiss 798]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

I see that the new border czar is going to be they guy who came up with the scheme to separate children from their parents in Trump 1, and the Deputy Chief of Staff is to be the chief fascist. 

Goebbels is back!

Edited November 12, 2024 by normiss

[nigel99 471]

11 minutes ago, kallend said:

I see that the new border czar is going to be they guy who came up with the scheme to separate children from their parents in Trump 1, and the Deputy Chief of Staff is to be the chief fascist. 

This is rapidly shaping up to be what people predicted. That Trump and Co learned from their mistakes the first time.

I think any hope that he will just play golf and stumble around ineffectively are rapidly disappearing.

We’ve seen 3rd world countries implode rapidly, and possibly the Uk post Brexit. This seems to be America’s hold my beer moment.