The Clown Show aka trump's Cabinet

[nigel99 474]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

Remember when the best thing about Trump was that his government wouldn't be beholden to rich campaign donors?

Now the best thing about Trump is that his government will be run by rich campaign donors!

 

It really all makes sense if you just look at it sideways and squint a bit. Not like a cult at all.

Trump is the ultimate grifter, he took people’s anger at the system and manipulated them.

I’ll be honest, I am no longer certain MAGA is a cult, although it’s still high my the list as a possibility.

People feel powerless against politicians who have become a law to themselves and there is a vacuum of alternatives. I’ve recently been following Tony Blair and quite like his perspective on how politics is broken and what he learned as PM.

There’s a level of insanity in supporting a dictator wannabe and bunch of crooks as an alternative though.

Australia is racing to catch up to the US. For the first time I have decided to take an active role in opposing the mainstream parties. We have a small party run by a GP. He’s very logical and challenges decisions constantly. I’ve begun talking to the head of the party as he’s very approachable.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

7 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Trump is the ultimate grifter, he took people’s anger at the system and manipulated them.

I’ll be honest, I am no longer certain MAGA is a cult, although it’s still high my the list as a possibility.

People feel powerless against politicians who have become a law to themselves and there is a vacuum of alternatives. I’ve recently been following Tony Blair and quite like his perspective on how politics is broken and what he learned as PM.

There’s a level of insanity in supporting a dictator wannabe and bunch of crooks as an alternative though.

Australia is racing to catch up to the US. For the first time I have decided to take an active role in opposing the mainstream parties. We have a small party run by a GP. He’s very logical and challenges decisions constantly. I’ve begun talking to the head of the party as he’s very approachable.

Democracy is very nice, if currently impracticable. In the meantime reviewing the necessities for surviving famously in a feudal system seems appropriate.

[jakee 1,489]

13 hours ago, nigel99 said:

I’ll be honest, I am no longer certain MAGA is a cult, although it’s still high my the list as a possibility.

It's cult-like when there's nothing the leader can do that's wrong. The republicans ut huge amounts of effort into stirring up anger over supposed pay-to-play at the Clinton Foundation (with zero direct evidence of anything actually happening), and ultimately were successful in driving large numbers of voters to Trump. His promise to be completely above the dirty world of campaign finance was a huge part of his first win. 

Now Elon Musk has, loudly and openly, paid his way into Trump's inner circle and been rewarded with a position that will give him huge influence over government spending on his and his competitor's companies and the supporters say it's exactly what they always wanted Trump to do. 

[jaybird18c 24]

4 minutes ago, jakee said:

It's cult-like when there's nothing the leader can do that's wrong. The republicans ut huge amounts of effort into stirring up anger over supposed pay-to-play at the Clinton Foundation (with zero direct evidence of anything actually happening), and ultimately were successful in driving large numbers of voters to Trump. His promise to be completely above the dirty world of campaign finance was a huge part of his first win. 

Now Elon Musk has, loudly and openly, paid his way into Trump's inner circle and been rewarded with a position that will give him huge influence over government spending on his and his competitor's companies and the supporters say it's exactly what they always wanted Trump to do. 

 

[jakee 1,489]

1 minute ago, jaybird18c said:

 

Is that you still crying about how unfair your ban was, or the face you made because you just realised how badly you've been had? If the latter, glad I could help!

Edited December 7, 2024 by jakee

[jaybird18c 24]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

Is that you still crying about how unfair your ban was, or the face you made because you just realised how badly you've been had? If the latter, glad I could help!

I’m not here to assist someone in their confusion.

[jakee 1,489]

25 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

I’m not here to assist someone in their confusion.

That's for the best.

[nigel99 474]

34 minutes ago, jakee said:

It's cult-like when there's nothing the leader can do that's wrong. The republicans ut huge amounts of effort into stirring up anger over supposed pay-to-play at the Clinton Foundation (with zero direct evidence of anything actually happening), and ultimately were successful in driving large numbers of voters to Trump. His promise to be completely above the dirty world of campaign finance was a huge part of his first win. 

Now Elon Musk has, loudly and openly, paid his way into Trump's inner circle and been rewarded with a position that will give him huge influence over government spending on his and his competitor's companies and the supporters say it's exactly what they always wanted Trump to do. 

Definitely cult like. Also the US is now well and truly established as a corrupt nation. 

It’s going to be interesting to see the EU response over time as they generally have quite high standards on dealing with corruption.

[normiss 800]

5 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

I’m not here to assist someone in their confusion.

You've enough of yours for all of us.

Edited December 7, 2024 by normiss
OMFG! I dropped an S. :D

[jaybird18c 24]

16 minutes ago, normiss said:

You've enough of your for all of us.

Is English your second language?

[JerryBaumchen 1,363]

Hi folks,

Looks like so long to veteran's benefits:  push for cutting veterans’ health benefits

Hegseth and Collins’ push for cutting veterans’ health benefits alarms service members and veterans groups | CNN Politics

How long will those veterans still be glad that they voted for Trump?

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,991]

56 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

How long will those veterans still be glad that they voted for Trump?

The guy who thinks they are "suckers" and "losers?" 

They are getting exactly what they voted for.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

The guy who thinks they are "suckers" and "losers?" 

They are getting exactly what they voted for.

Maybe Jay and Ron would like to chime in here and set us straight. Hey, I know, let's put them on Medicare and SSDI instead and get rid of an agency in the bargain. Surely Brent and BIGUN would agree to that leveling of the playing field and deep administrative state cut.

[BIGUN 1,314]

9 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Surely Brent and BIGUN would agree to that leveling of the playing field and deep administrative state cut.

Hold on. It helps to actually read the article past the headline and not embrace the noise. Beginning around 2016, there was a shift from the backlog of trying to keep everything in-house at the VA. That's what was caused veterans to die. Congress opened the purse and gave the VA a directive to do "Care in the Community" to alleviate some of the issues.

Your VA PCP recommends a specialst, the PCP sends it over to CinC, they coordinate with a local specialist, it gets done. It went well, kind of a FEMA model of approving funds for others to take care of the problem. After losing so many VA Doctors to higher pay in the community, the question became, why does the VA have its own healthcare system - why not "just" use CinC.

There's an evaluation going on of cutting the budget and just doing CinC. No reason to be duplicitous. Fact is - this would be an even better model for the consideration of Universal Healthcare.      

[JerryBaumchen 1,363]

6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Hold on. It helps to actually read the article past the headline and not embrace the noise. Beginning around 2016, there was a shift from the backlog of trying to keep everything in-house at the VA. That's what was caused veterans to die. Congress opened the purse and gave the VA a directive to do "Care in the Community" to alleviate some of the issues.

Your VA PCP recommends a specialst, the PCP sends it over to CinC, they coordinate with a local specialist, it gets done. It went well, kind of a FEMA model of approving funds for others to take care of the problem. After losing so many VA Doctors to higher pay in the community, the question became, why does the VA have its own healthcare system - why not "just" use CinC.

There's an evaluation going on of cutting the budget and just doing CinC. No reason to be duplicitous. Fact is - this would be an even better model for the consideration of Universal Healthcare.      

Hi Keith,

Re:   this would be an even better model for the consideration of Universal Healthcare.   

As I support Universal Healthcare, you cannot surely believe that this is on Trump's radar; or do you?

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,720]

6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Your VA PCP recommends a specialst, the PCP sends it over to CinC, they coordinate with a local specialist, it gets done.

You hold on there, sonny! : "Your VA PCP recommends a special(i)st, the PCP sends it over to CinC, they coordinate with a local specialist, it gets done."  That's what happens on the crappy regular insurance plans that's gets some folks all pistol pissed off at CEO's. I'm on Medicare and it's the best insurance I can recall having and I have always bought the best. You bypass your PCP and don't wait for approvals. X-rays, CT scans, MRI's, Open Heart Surgery, a new shoulder and on and on. Do your research and go to whichever surgeon in the US you prefer, getting 2 or even 3 opinions on the way. Never once has my top choice not accepted Part B and my supplement and I've never been denied or delayed.

Now yes, I made a snarky comment to make a point or two but I'm thinking you don't get single payer health insurance.

[kallend 2,027]

46 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

You hold on there, sonny! : "Your VA PCP recommends a special(i)st, the PCP sends it over to CinC, they coordinate with a local specialist, it gets done."  That's what happens on the crappy regular insurance plans that's gets some folks all pistol pissed off at CEO's. I'm on Medicare and it's the best insurance I can recall having and I have always bought the best. You bypass your PCP and don't wait for approvals. X-rays, CT scans, MRI's, Open Heart Surgery, a new shoulder and on and on. Do your research and go to whichever surgeon in the US you prefer, getting 2 or even 3 opinions on the way. Never once has my top choice not accepted Part B and my supplement and I've never been denied or delayed.

Now yes, I made a snarky comment to make a point or two but I'm thinking you don't get single payer health insurance.

But you'd never know this if you watched the ads for Medicare Advantage plans.

[BIGUN 1,314]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

you cannot surely believe that this is on Trump's radar; or do you?

I do not, but if the left pays attention, when the pendulum swings back . . . they have a model to frame up. 

[BIGUN 1,314]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

I made a snarky comment to make a point or two but I'm thinking you don't get single payer health insurance.

Medicare and the VA system are both examples of single-payer health coverage. They're both funded by the federal government. Single Payer and Universal Healthcare can be somewhat conflated. The single payer means there's just a single entity paying for medical care for some. Universal Healthcare - means that ALL Americans have coverage, whether through public or private systems, or both. So, before you get too snarky, the goal is NOT single payer for some, but universal care for all.  

I'm thinking you don't get Universal Healthcare. Or. is that not your goal.  

[JoeWeber 2,720]

20 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Medicare and the VA system are both examples of single-payer health coverage

Which would you prefer if only one of the systems was mandated for all Americans?

[BIGUN 1,314]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Which would you prefer if only one of the systems was mandated for all Americans?

I have both VA and Medicare. They're both the same. 

[normiss 800]

I would expect a yuge push to privatize all of it. Bigly. 
Oligarchs and all that. 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

I have both VA and Medicare. They're both the same. 

Are you sure you don't have Medicare Advantage? That's like VA with a PCP requirement.

[BIGUN 1,314]

8 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Are you sure you don't have Medicare Advantage?

Never once has my top choice not accepted Part B and my supplement and I've never been denied or delayed. ~post #191

[JoeWeber 2,720]

34 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Never once has my top choice not accepted Part B and my supplement and I've never been denied or delayed. ~post #191

But with VA insurance, per your post, it's not the same. With VA there is a PCP requirement etc. Not so?