The Clown Show aka trump's Cabinet

[kallend 2,026]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

I am sure that there is.

I was only trying to comment on some results of a 75% reduction in the federal work-force.

Most people in this country have no idea on just how that would effect them.

Jerry Baumchen

76,422,867 people in this country have no idea.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

76,422,867 people in this country have no idea.

That raises and interesting question: what is the actual number with no idea who voted Trump? Surely there are several categories, for example some anti-abortion types would take anything to end abortion forever. Then there are the Armageddon hopefuls and those who stand to gain but not be harmed and so on.

[JerryBaumchen 1,360]

16 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

That raises and interesting question: what is the actual number with no idea who voted Trump? Surely there are several categories, for example some anti-abortion types would take anything to end abortion forever. Then there are the Armageddon hopefuls and those who stand to gain but not be harmed and so on.

Hi Joe,

76,422,867

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,360]

Hi folks,

Re:  Donald Trump won farm country by wide margins in this month's election

Some farm experts see 'danger' in Trump's embrace of Kennedy and tariffs : NPR

Aren't you glad you voted for Trump?

What's that saying about the ox?

Jerry Baumchen

 

[kallend 2,026]

According to George F. WIll:

Matt Gaetz, an arrested-development adolescent with the swagger of a sequined guitarist in a low-rent casino, will not be confirmed. His grotesqueness, however, makes three other nominees seem what they are not: acceptable. Considering only competence — leaving aside character blemishes — nothing in their resumes qualifies Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for the policy and administrative challenges of running the Defense Department, the intelligence community and the Department of Health and Human Services, respectively.

[kallend 2,026]

21 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Re:  Donald Trump won farm country by wide margins in this month's election

Some farm experts see 'danger' in Trump's embrace of Kennedy and tariffs : NPR

 

Jerry Baumchen

 

Most food supply experts see danger in Trump's mass deportation threat.

[JerryBaumchen 1,360]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Most food supply experts see danger in Trump's mass deportation threat.

Hi John,

That are not the only ones:  US business leaders and analysts have warned that the loss of labor and tax revenue could severely damage the economy.

What Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans could mean for the US economy | Semafor

Think Joe 6-Pack will still be glad he voted for Trump?

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Let us not forget that one of Trump's instructors at Wharton said that Trump was the dumbest student he ever had.

 

Edited November 18, 2024 by JerryBaumchen

[okalb 104]

17 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Think Joe 6-Pack will still be glad he voted for Trump?

No matter how bad things get under Trump, Joe 6-pack will find a way to blame it on Biden and the lefties. One of the key characteristics of both Trump and his supporters is never admit to making a mistake. Another is always find someone else to blame. Personal responsibility does not exist in MAGA moron world.

[nigel99 471]

2 hours ago, okalb said:

No matter how bad things get under Trump, Joe 6-pack will find a way to blame it on Biden and the lefties. One of the key characteristics of both Trump and his supporters is never admit to making a mistake. Another is always find someone else to blame. Personal responsibility does not exist in MAGA moron world.

How long before Musk and Trump completely implode?

Maybe Musk will be the scapegoat 

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

36 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

How long before Musk and Trump completely implode?

Maybe Musk will be the scapegoat 

Musk has too much money.

[JerryBaumchen 1,360]

37 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

How long before Musk and Trump completely implode?

Maybe Musk will be the scapegoat 

Hi Nigel,

Well, for damn sure, it will not be Trump.

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 471]

2 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Musk has too much money.

I’m not sure money makes the defining factor. Trump and Musk both have cult followers. Musk is socially awkward and a migrant which goes against him. 

In an environment fuelled by scapegoating migrants it won’t take much for Steven Miller and Trump to feed that monster against Musk. Much easier to paint Musk as the outsider.

[billvon 2,990]

2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

How long before Musk and Trump completely implode?

Never.  They both have enough support to simply paint their detractors as communists, or pedophiles, or fascists, or whatever the bad emotion of the week is.

[gowlerk 2,190]

39 minutes ago, billvon said:

or whatever the bad emotion of the week is.

Woke

[kallend 2,026]

I see our new DOT head is someone tasked to "make our skies safe again", but who has no experience in aviation.  Apparently competitive log rolling is his thing.

[kallend 2,026]

The more I see of Trump's bizzare cabinet picks, the more I wonder if he's just seeing how far he can go in sticking it to the Senate.

[wmw999 2,442]

Oh, I think George Will nailed it. Propose the impossible, and they’ll “settle” for the ridiculous  

Wendy P. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

49 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Oh, I think George Will nailed it. Propose the impossible, and they’ll “settle” for the ridiculous  

Wendy P. 

I'm sure that there is a section in trump's books that proposes that exactly. IMO trump will use recess appointments and push everything he can from day one. Look at all those who he has surrounded himself with. Only a GOP led impeachment will stop him and I have doubts that will happen before midterms. His dictatorship pedal will be on the floorboards of the trumpmobile from day one.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

I'm sure that there is a section in trump's books that proposes that exactly. IMO trump will use recess appointments and push everything he can from day one. Look at all those who he has surrounded himself with. Only a GOP led impeachment will stop him and I have doubts that will happen before midterms. His dictatorship pedal will be on the floorboards of the trumpmobile from day one.

first declare a state of emergency.

Call it all emergency actions after that.

court challenges will be settled by SCOTUS.

Even if you believe SCOTUS will rule against Trump, much of the damage will already be done.

 

[Phil1111 1,149]

11 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

first declare a state of emergency.

Call it all emergency actions after that.

court challenges will be settled by SCOTUS.

Even if you believe SCOTUS will rule against Trump, much of the damage will already be done.

 

I'd agree it will be close to that. trump will fire up his "never back down" base and do whatever comes to his mind. Anything goes because he only has two years. trump knows he won't get every vote of republicans for his nuttiest ideas. So he will do everything to skirt possible losing votes in the house and senate.

[okalb 104]

18 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

I'd agree it will be close to that. trump will fire up his "never back down" base and do whatever comes to his mind. Anything goes because he only has two years. trump knows he won't get every vote of republicans for his nuttiest ideas. So he will do everything to skirt possible losing votes in the house and senate.

You are assuming that there will be "legitimate" elections in 2 years. I have no confidence in that. If there are elections at all, they will be like the elections like they have in Russian, purely for show, with the results already pre-determined. Free and fair elections are a thing of the past in the USA.

[normiss 798]

Just now, okalb said:

You are assuming that there will be "legitimate" elections in 2 years. I have no confidence in that. If there are elections at all, they will be like the elections like they have in Russian, purely for show, with the results already pre-determined. Free and fair elections are a thing of the past in the USA.

This is a painful reality. VERY painful.

More so given the number of Americans that support it. I should say "former" Americans though.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

18 minutes ago, normiss said:

This is a painful reality. VERY painful.

More so given the number of Americans that support it. I should say "former" Americans though.

Yes they will argue the Democrats did this all along anyways, so it is just payback....

Edited to add, if we have seen anything since the first Trump presidency is that the rule of law simply doesn't exist in the US. If you are rich and/or powerful enough you can do whatever you want without any consequences.

Trump will feel he can act, and SCOTUS has backed him up on this, without any fear of liability. He can act without impunity and he is vindictive. Many people will cheer it on, until it lands on their doorstep. At which point they will blame the democrats for allowing it to happen.

I predict that in 2 to 4 years many Republicans will be blaming Biden for not dealing with Trump.

Edited November 19, 2024 by SkyDekker

[gowlerk 2,190]

39 minutes ago, okalb said:

they will be like the elections like they have in Russian, purely for show, with the results already pre-determined. Free and fair elections are a thing of the past in the USA.

It's pretty hard to see how that could happen given the decentralized state by state control of the process. I mean, beyond the Gerrymandering and discouraging people from voting that is already going on. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

39 minutes ago, okalb said:

You are assuming that there will be "legitimate" elections in 2 years. I have no confidence in that. If there are elections at all, they will be like the elections like they have in Russian, purely for show, with the results already pre-determined. Free and fair elections are a thing of the past in the USA.

 

37 minutes ago, normiss said:

This is a painful reality. VERY painful.

More so given the number of Americans that support it. I should say "former" Americans though.

 

20 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Yes they will argue the Democrats did this all along anyways, so it is just payback....

Edited to add, if we have seen anything since the first Trump presidency is that the rule of law simply doesn't exist in the US. If you are rich and/or powerful enough you can do whatever you want without any consequences.

Trump will feel he can act, and SCOTUS has backed him up on this, without any fear of liability. He can act without impunity and he is vindictive. Many people will cheer it on, until it lands on their doorstep. At which point they will blame the democrats for allowing it to happen.

I predict that in 2 to 4 years many Republicans will be blaming Biden for not dealing with Trump.

Oh come-on guys. I'll admit republicans are gerrymandering as much as possible and using local election officials to mess with election laws in local jurisdictions. I'll admit that the US is sliding to banana land.

But the courts are still somewhat a backstop. The press is largely free. trump only won the vote by a small margin. "Trump’s popular-vote advantage has declined steadily since election night. As of Monday afternoon, Trump was at 49.94 percent, while Harris was at 48.26, according to the authoritative Cook Political Report’s tracking of results from official sources in states across the country. "

You-all are starting to sound like Joe when he gets on a downer about politics and the US situation.