JoeWeber 2,808 #26 November 14, 2024 26 minutes ago, murps2000 said: Agree and I offered nothing but the same whenever I participated. I have no desire to do it again but I have 2 nephews that each just got their A license so I have to ask, if the site goes away, is there any way to archive the incident and S+T forums so they are still available to view? Institutional knowledge is a terrible thing to waste. I want it to remain available to them as it was to me, and I would contribute to that. I ask you from an honest place as someone hoping to corral investors. Help me to understand better my headwinds: how many jumps have you made in the last year and in the last 5 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,102 #27 November 14, 2024 11 hours ago, billvon said: There's nothing useful here; just bickering and people trying to bait each other. To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #28 November 14, 2024 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: I ask you from an honest place as someone hoping to corral investors. Help me to understand better my headwinds: how many jumps have you made in the last year and in the last 5 years? 0 and 0. I used to skydive and could again if I were so inclined, although I’d probably eliminate the fossil fuel thing and just move on to paragliding because it’s literally right out my back door. I usually spend my free time in the woods these days, trying to see whatever I can before it all burns up. I wouldn’t have gotten involved in SC but I was bored during Covid shutdown. I decided to bail when I’d had enough of the pelosi hammer thread. I think arguing is one of the silliest things we use the internet for and I’m as guilty as anyone. That said, I still lurk here for the links that some of you provide. There’s some good information there. Sure, I’d probably pay for membership to maintain that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeman17 342 #29 November 15, 2024 A lot of this is why I mentioned USPA in the other thread. They already host and maintain a website, would it be that hard/costly for them to run this one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 558 #30 November 15, 2024 13 minutes ago, dudeman17 said: A lot of this is why I mentioned USPA in the other thread. They already host and maintain a website, would it be that hard/costly for them to run this one? I was thinking similar, or one of the big gear stores (like Chutingstar) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,808 #31 November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, dudeman17 said: A lot of this is why I mentioned USPA in the other thread. They already host and maintain a website, would it be that hard/costly for them to run this one? I know! Maybe Trump will create a department of obscure and unimportant blogs to benefit people who don't want to pay for their muses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigbearfng 18 #32 November 22, 2024 Interesting thoughts here. I only stick my head in SC once in a while to see if it's still the same echo chamber, but this thread I think is the best I've seen. Dropzone.com has been the best resource for skydivers-especially incidents and safety. I know it helped me over the years with a lot-particulary with deciding to continue skydiving after watching a friend go in-I still jump now though I hire a packer most times now since I have a bit of metal in me. Incredible resource in these forums, even though it could get frustrating to repeatedly lecture the young want to downsize jumpers on slowing down-Ron did start to get blunt back then! His bounce bingo suggestions were priceless. I still peruse incidents/safety and a few others and post once in a while-had to let everyone know the Perris jet was flying again! I think the info contained in this site is invaluable and any effort to save it is commendable. Has anyone talked to USPA about that idea that was thrown out? Just seems that would be a good direction to go for the info to be easily found for everyone. And forums are not dead-I am on several auto forums (corvette and thirdgen.org) that are still very active-so it is curious that it's slowed so much here-I'm at a loss as to why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SethInMI 174 #33 November 24, 2024 On 11/22/2024 at 1:11 PM, bigbearfng said: I'm at a loss as to why I think the number of skydivers was small enough that as forum use slowed with options of FB groups it dipped below a critical number and ceased being relevant. Skydiving has a lot of turn-over, many people just stay in for a year or two and that makes the site having to keep pulling in new people, but those new jumpers got re-directed to those local FB groups (Every DZ I know has one) for the socializing aspect. Without the social traffic, there wasn't enough technical discussions happening to keep interest up for noobs and casuals. The fact the site got old didn't help (I know, I know you hated the re-design but I appreciated the fact we could embed pics and vids). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #34 November 25, 2024 The "This Site is For Sale" banner has disappeared. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,808 #35 November 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, IanHarrop said: The "This Site is For Sale" banner has disappeared. Ruh-ro! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #36 November 25, 2024 (edited) The rest of the site may be fine, but Speaker’s Corner is a giant shit sandwich monopolized and controlled by obnoxious radical leftists who protect each other. The sooner it dies, the better. Pay for it? Hilarious! This is the MSNBC of the online skydiving world. Edited November 25, 2024 by jaybird18c 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #37 November 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: The rest of the site may be fine, but Speaker’s Corner is a giant shit sandwich monopolized and controlled by obnoxious radical leftists who protect each other. The sooner it dies, the better. Pay for it? Hilarious! This is the MSNBC of the online skydiving world. And yet you come here to eat that shit sandwich. Many republicans live a life in the closet. It is ok, we are a welcoming bunch. You don't have to keep pretending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #38 November 25, 2024 Just now, SkyDekker said: And yet you come here to eat that shit sandwich. Many republicans live a life in the closet. It is ok, we are a welcoming bunch. You don't have to keep pretending. I just pop in every once in a while to monitor the meltdown. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #39 November 25, 2024 1 minute ago, jaybird18c said: I just pop in every once in a while to monitor the meltdown. Yes you need your quick little fix out of teh closet, I get it :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #40 November 25, 2024 1 minute ago, SkyDekker said: Yes you need your quick little fix out of teh closet, I get it :) I’m glad you understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,515 #41 November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: The rest of the site may be fine, but Speaker’s Corner is a giant shit sandwich monopolized and controlled by obnoxious radical leftists who protect each other. The sooner it dies, the better. Pay for it? Hilarious! This is the MSNBC of the online skydiving world. Well, if OAN, Blaze and the like can exist, why not this also? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,808 #42 November 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Well, if OAN, Blaze and the like can exist, why not this also? Wendy P. Because we are godless commies and the sooner we are disposed the better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #43 November 25, 2024 12 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Well, if OAN, Blaze and the like can exist, why not this also? Wendy P. Oh…Speaker’s Corner can exist. But that doesn’t mean it’s not an echo chamber for leftists who protect their own and, therefore, shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,245 #44 November 26, 2024 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Well, if OAN, Blaze and the like can exist, why not this also? Wendy P. Those sites make money. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 24 #45 November 26, 2024 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Those sites make money. Good point! And this site just fosters leftist assholes. Calling dz.com users assholes really isn't OK, unless it's preceded by "hey," and used in skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 November 26, 2024 The irony of people who claim to free the oppressed, wanting to oppress those not like them is strong. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #47 December 2, 2024 So looks like the site will be gone for good at the end of December - so we have one last hurrah. Personally I want to thank Andrea and Wendy for helping to moderate this forum. It's always been an odd little appendix on a really useful website, and I've made friends here, had a few thought provoking arguments, and had a lot of fun watching other arguments progress (or, in many cases, devolve.) Thanks everyone. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #48 December 2, 2024 Its going to be a shame to see the site go. It was fun while it was here and I had a great time meeting a lot of you! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #49 December 2, 2024 8 minutes ago, PhreeZone said: Its going to be a shame to see the site go. It was fun while it was here and I had a great time meeting a lot of you! There is a blast from the past. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #50 December 2, 2024 6 hours ago, billvon said: So looks like the site will be gone for good at the end of December - so we have one last hurrah. Mmmmmm now that a purchase price is better defined! ...I'm surprised that a DZ, a manufacturer, or a major retailer hasn't bought it. IMO 2-3 active individuals are needed in the skydiving section to drive engagement. Newbies and those debating coming back need gear and not every DZ is active enough to have active FB groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites