Trumps Victory Was Great! BUT..

[rushmc 23]

...this is even bigger in the long run

https://iowafc.org/2024/11/19/administrative-state-loses-again/

Edited November 20, 2024 by rushmc

[Phil1111 1,149]

Elon Musk paid $44 billion for X and its now worth 9.4 billion according to Fidelity.

People are fleeing Elon Musk’s X in droves. What’s happening on Threads and Bluesky?

 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

2 hours ago, rushmc said:

...this is even bigger in the long run

https://iowafc.org/2024/11/19/administrative-state-loses-again/

Please give us the top 5 things you hope to see from Trump 2.

[nigel99 474]

3 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Elon Musk paid $44 billion for X and its now worth 9.4 billion according to Fidelity.

People are fleeing Elon Musk’s X in droves. What’s happening on Threads and Bluesky?

 

I was never a twit but I’ve created a bluesky account just to boost their numbers.

[RonD1120 62]

10 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Please give us the top 5 things you hope to see from Trump 2.

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

 

Edited November 20, 2024 by RonD1120

[normiss 800]

4 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

 

The US is currently the world's largest producer of oil, producing around 19.4 million barrels per day in 2023. The US's oil production has nearly doubled since the 2008 financial crisis, when foreign oil prices peaked.

The wall is a waste of money. The current administration has reduced illegal border crossings. In September, U.S. Border Patrol apprehended nearly 54,000 migrants who crossed into the U.S. illegally, marking the lowest number since August 2020. This is part of a consistent decrease in illegal border crossings

EPA is very much needed as climate change is impacting the planet, whether one believes it or not, science tells us otherwise.

Streamline and reduce, as government agencies are needed more in the last few years. Like major storm response, help for those in need after the damaging storm. Some agencies like SBA and FEMA, IRS are already understaffed and it impacts America in quite painful way.

I'd advise we keep the DoE, apparently it's still needed. As evidenced by the post I'm responding to.

 

Ignoring facts in preference of the rose colored glasses some people prefer to view the world through can be dangerously idiotic.

[kallend 2,027]

45 minutes ago, normiss said:

 

I'd advise we keep the DoE, apparently it's still needed. As evidenced by the post I'm responding to.

 

Ignoring facts in preference of the rose colored glasses some people prefer to view the world through can be dangerously idiotic.

Indeed. 

The "red" states already  rank at the bottom of the list of educational attainment, so I'm not sure how much farther they can fall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_educational_attainment

[billvon 2,991]

1 hour ago, RonD1120 said:

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

 

 

Under Biden we are pumping record amounts of oil.  Trump has nowhere to go but down.   If he's lucky he can keep Biden production levels going.

[base698 14]

13 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Elon Musk paid $44 billion for X and its now worth 9.4 billion according to Fidelity.

People are fleeing Elon Musk’s X in droves. What’s happening on Threads and Bluesky?

 

How much is being in the president's entourage worth?  Tesla is now valued over $1T and has increased in market cap by several hundred billion since the election.  Counting SpaceX I would argue that $44b has increased his net worth many multiples and given him direct power.

I have exclusive video of what being on Blue Sky is like.

[Phil1111 1,149]

6 minutes ago, base698 said:

How much is being in the president's entourage worth?  Tesla is now valued over $1T and has increased in market cap by several hundred billion since the election.  Counting SpaceX I would argue that $44b has increased his net worth many multiples and given him direct power....

For Musk I'd say $20-30 billion.Of which he might kick back $2-3 billion to trump.

[jakee 1,489]

20 minutes ago, base698 said:

How much is being in the president's entourage worth?  Tesla is now valued over $1T and has increased in market cap by several hundred billion since the election.  Counting SpaceX I would argue that $44b has increased his net worth many multiples and given him direct power.

Again, Musk isn't Nostradamus. Buying Twitter was basically the equivalent of a drunk bet that he desperately tried to welch on until the courts forced him to honour it.

It's great that you think allowing Silicon Valley elites to buy power is a positive feature of a Trump government though. Most of your MAGA fellows will claim that's exactly what they stand against.

 

Cute gif by the way. I suppose the only dfference with X now is that you're trapped in there with a bunch of neo-Nazi farts, and farts that haven't had their measles vaccines?

Edited November 20, 2024 by jakee

[jakee 1,489]

2 hours ago, normiss said:

EPA is very much needed as climate change is impacting the planet, whether one believes it or not, science tells us otherwise.

I don't think that's the best line to take given that MAGA people (and conservatives in general) will simply deny that's a thing. The effects of gutting the EPA will be much more direct and immediate. Before the EPA rivers used to catch fire. Before the EPA you couldn't see one side of an LA street from the other.

The people who want to reduce the EPA will never just nibble away at the fringes, they'll go straight for the core mission and cut anything that makes conservative business owners have to spend more money to comply. 

They're so deluded that even before Trump we had conservatives here arguing that the EPA was completely unnecessary because bad publicity alone was enough to make companies act in ethical ways and not do anything dangerous to their customers or neighbours. 

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

 

Got to love the irony of your first point showing how your 5th point is a bad idea.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

2 hours ago, RonD1120 said:

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

 

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

We're at record levels now. Is this more of a where wish? That is the ANR and off the coast of California? How many barrels above the near 20 million BPD should we be pumping?

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

I think the wall is a silly idea and easily defeatable. Lets just disagree. Just where and how are you going to deport all illegals? Are you at all concerned about any harm to the US economy or is that a desirable effect? 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

I assume that means ending any interest in climate change mitigation, yes? What about Lead Pipes and poison being let into our rivers? The EPA budget is $10 Billion. Cut that in half and what will the $5 Billion get you?

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

No disagreement there but as ever the devil is in the details. Please give actual details.

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

No point in dancing around here, you want more Jesus in the classrooms and that's it. Most of what is taught in K-12 is already a mish-mash of curriculum heavily influenced by local school boards. So please say exactly what you hope to achieve here. If it's just saying fuck it and saving $80 Billion a year by not sending Blue State money to backwards local school boards then count me in.

[base698 14]

51 minutes ago, jakee said:

Again, Musk isn't Nostradamus. Buying Twitter was basically the equivalent of a drunk bet that he desperately tried to welch on until the courts forced him to honour it.

No, but he's taken a bunch of risks that always seem to pay off in his favor.  Despite his over and over success you somehow think it's a drunk bet.

[base698 14]

52 minutes ago, jakee said:

It's great that you think allowing Silicon Valley elites to buy power is a positive feature of a Trump government though. Most of your MAGA fellows will claim that's exactly what they stand against.

It's a feature of our oligarchy.  The previous oligarchs got us ugly people in advertisements and shit on the street.  Think it's time someone else got a crack.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 minute ago, base698 said:

No, but he's taken a bunch of risks that always seem to pay off in his favor.  Despite his over and over success you somehow think it's a drunk bet.

Why then did he try to get out of the deal after it was accepted? 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

5 minutes ago, base698 said:

It's a feature of our oligarchy.  The previous oligarchs got us ugly people in advertisements and shit on the street.  Think it's time someone else got a crack.

Okay, tell us:  what is your solution to the current homeless problem? I'm pretty sure they can't simply be told to go home. Who will pay for it and how much will it cost? Should an existing agency take on the problem or will we need a new DOGE type organization?

Edited November 20, 2024 by JoeWeber

[gowlerk 2,192]

3 hours ago, normiss said:

I'd advise we keep the DoE, apparently it's still needed. As evidenced by the post I'm responding to.

But it keeps on standing in the way of Christian religious domination of the schools. It has to go.

[gowlerk 2,192]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

How much is being in the president's entourage worth?  Tesla is now valued over $1T and has increased in market cap by several hundred billion since the election.  Counting SpaceX I would argue that $44b has increased his net worth many multiples and given him direct power.

Soon he will find enough spare change to buy Truth Social and merge it with the remains of Twitter.

Edited November 20, 2024 by gowlerk

[base698 14]

37 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Okay, tell us:  what is your solution to the current homeless problem? I'm pretty sure they can't simply be told to go home

1st offense caught with needles and opioids, caning.  2nd offense, off to the lithium mines for Tesla batteries or farming Tilapia:

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

Little Jenny can't play with heroin needles on the street if there are no heroin encampments.

[jakee 1,489]

48 minutes ago, base698 said:

No, but he's taken a bunch of risks that always seem to pay off in his favor.  Despite his over and over success you somehow think it's a drunk bet.

In what way does that make sense to you? You think that because Tesla and SpaceX are successful, Musk going to court to try and back out of buying Twitter because he thought he'd made a terrible deal didn't really happen?

[base698 14]

38 minutes ago, jakee said:

In what way does that make sense to you? You think that because Tesla and SpaceX are successful, Musk going to court to try and back out of buying Twitter because he thought he'd made a terrible deal didn't really happen?

First, how do you know it wasn't just negotiating tactic to get a better price?  That's a standard tactic in acquisitions . You seem to assume he really wanted to back out which you can't know.

Even if he made a mistake, he played the acquisition of Twitter and won the pot of massive influence and power.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

2 minutes ago, base698 said:

That's a standard tactic in acquisitions .

Narrator: Court proceedings are in fact not a standard practice in acquisitions. It is standard not to have them.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

53 minutes ago, base698 said:

1st offense caught with needles and opioids, caning.  2nd offense, off to the lithium mines for Tesla batteries or farming Tilapia:

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

Little Jenny can't play with heroin needles on the street if there are no heroin encampments.

But those Jan 6 protesters, now they are really being treated poorly in prison.