Trumps Victory Was Great! BUT..

[Phil1111 1,149]

4 hours ago, base698 said:

1st offense caught with needles and opioids, caning.  2nd offense, off to the lithium mines for Tesla batteries or farming Tilapia:

https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

Little Jenny can't play with heroin needles on the street if there are no heroin encampments.

Everyone should see that its important to get a direct insight into the minds of trump supporters. thanks

[base698 14]

13 minutes ago, olofscience said:

It's weird how some people think "more punishment" is the solution to the homelessness problem.

It's not like people want to be homeless. Nobody, I repeat NOBODY does. Thinking that they need to be punished so they'll be motivated not to be homeless is the most messed up thing ever.

I said move them.  Away from the people they can harm by shitting in the street and causing general chaos.

The punishment is to get them to move to a non residential area.  There are tons of videos of addicts saying they prefer to be homeless, and also plenty that refuse shelter because they can't bring drugs.

If the choice is burning down an animal shelter because addicts start a fire in the middle of an LA or moving them to an area they can't damage others, I'll take that.

[billvon 2,990]

4 hours ago, base698 said:

Little Jenny can't play with heroin needles on the street if there are no heroin encampments.

Exactly.  Just outlaw heroin and people doing heroin will go away.  No more needles.  No more addicts.  Same thing for all illegal drugs.  Same thing for prostitution.  Just outlaw it with stiff penalties and it is GONE.  Same thing for speeding.  Same thing for assault wea . . . .

WAIT THAT IS NOT TRUE FOR GUNS!  Completely different!  Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns!  Rather be judged by twelve than carried by six!  Gun control is hitting your target!  Loser libs want to outlaw everything because they hate freedom!

[olofscience 480]

9 minutes ago, base698 said:

I said move them.  Away from the people they can harm by shitting in the street and causing general chaos.

The punishment is to get them to move to a non residential area.  There are tons of videos of addicts saying they prefer to be homeless, and also plenty that refuse shelter because they can't bring drugs.

If the choice is burning down an animal shelter because addicts start a fire in the middle of an LA or moving them to an area they can't damage others, I'll take that.

And once you do that, there'll DEFINITELY be no more homeless, right? /s

There's a reason they "prefer" to be homeless. There's also a reason they do drugs - it's because every other alternative they have is worse.

 

What you're suggesting is like jailing people for getting cancer. They didn't ask for it, getting cancer is punishment enough, and what you don't realise is what separates us from them is just sometimes...luck.

[base698 14]

2 minutes ago, olofscience said:

What you're suggesting is like jailing people for getting cancer. They didn't ask for it, getting cancer is punishment enough, and what you don't realise is what separates us from them is just sometimes...luck.

Right, but you either give people agency and responsibilities for their actions or they destroy everything around them.  People on cancer don't steal catalytic converters, smoke meth on public transit and punch random people on the street. 

I've never seen a cancer patient try to masturbate on an old lady in public.

[olofscience 480]

2 minutes ago, base698 said:

People on cancer don't steal catalytic converters, smoke meth on public transit and punch random people on the street. 

I've never seen a cancer patient try to masturbate on an old lady in public.

Neither do homeless people. Who you're describing are criminals and yes, they do need to be responsible for their actions.

But not all homeless people. You've just decided to paint all homeless people as criminals...yet you voted for one.

[base698 14]

45 minutes ago, billvon said:

WAIT THAT IS NOT TRUE FOR GUNS!  Completely different!  Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns!  Rather be judged by twelve than carried by six!  Gun control is hitting your target!  Loser libs want to outlaw everything because they hate freedom!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178908000037

So across all crime 3-4 times greater commiting of crimes.  Do you think a standard gun owner is 3-4 times likely to commit a crime?  Given the volume of gun owners relative to addicts what do you predict the murder rate to be of that were true?

https://www.quora.com/Of-all-the-gun-crimes-committed-what-percentage-is-done-by-normal-law-abiding-citizens

According to this concealed carry permit holders are 1/300 times as likely as a random person to commit a crime. Free guns for the nation!

Edited November 20, 2024 by base698

[base698 14]

10 minutes ago, olofscience said:

But not all homeless people. You've just decided to paint all homeless people as criminals...yet you voted for one.

I'm not painting them all that way.  I'm referring to a specific class of them, namely the schizo ones setting buildings on fire because they are getting high in their homeless encampments. 

Letting these people, the dangerous ones, on the street is a danger to the ones that do need help. 

Edited November 20, 2024 by base698

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

3 hours ago, normiss said:

It's refreshing to see how downright ugly and violently hateful humans can be.

It's also beyond fucking disgusting.

Ya gotta admit that the rise of Trumpty Dumpty has given a LOT of people the motivation to rip of the masks they put on to present an 'acceptable' persona to society.

They don't have to hide anymore.

I fully agree that it's beyond fucking disgusting.

[rushmc 23]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

That's what happens when you leave an apostrophe out of the thread title.

Well

Hoping this is the end of the admintrative state.

The left can not win without it

[gowlerk 2,190]

3 hours ago, normiss said:

It's refreshing to see how downright ugly and violently hateful humans can be.

It's also beyond fucking disgusting.

This is what it means to be a right wing conservative today. And yesterday as well. 

[gowlerk 2,190]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Cute. Why not be honest and state that you are also clueless but somebody needs to do something and if a percentage of the harmed are US residents or citizens, which will happen, it's their tough tit for looking so Mexican. And, by the way, fuck Mexico, we will land there and off load these assholes wherever we want and if you don't like it just try to stop us.

‘Xactly. Now you’re starting to get it.

 

[gowlerk 2,190]

I propose that you enlist Elon into a plan to transport the homeless to Mars. Australia won’t take any.

[JerryBaumchen 1,360]

57 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Ya gotta admit that the rise of Trumpty Dumpty has given a LOT of people the motivation to rip of the masks they put on to present an 'acceptable' persona to society.

They don't have to hide anymore.

I fully agree that it's beyond fucking disgusting.

Hi Joe,

You nailed it 100%.

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 471]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

I propose that you enlist Elon into a plan to transport the homeless to Mars. Australia won’t take any.

As a continent we were proactive and split off from Africa a 180 Million years ago to avoid the problem of illegal immigration’s. 

The US needs to hurry up and start separating from Mexico. It’s much more effective than a wall 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

4 hours ago, Phil1111 said:

Everyone should see that its important to get a direct insight into the minds of trump supporters. thanks

That's a fact; lets cane them. Think about that gem: using a bamboo rod to beat a defenseless person. Obviously there would need to be a lot of patriots willing to do that job, at least 10's of thousands probably more. Heartless sociopaths whose day job is to inflict terrible pain on troubled people and then get off early for their kids soccer match. I can only imagine the ad: Wanted Aversion Therapists, no experience required. If naught else, Trump has certainly showed us the truth about our neighbors.

[Phil1111 1,149]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

That's a fact; lets cane them. Think about that gem: using a bamboo rod to beat a defenseless person. Obviously there would need to be a lot of patriots willing to do that job, at least 10's of thousands probably more. Heartless sociopaths whose day job is to inflict terrible pain on troubled people and then get off early for their kids soccer match. I can only imagine the ad: Wanted Aversion Therapists, no experience required. If naught else, Trump has certainly showed us the truth about our neighbors.

Well that and 27 payments via Venmo to pay teenagers including a 17 yo for sex.  Perhaps they are not so much going to the kids soccer match than paying for sex with either hookers, porn stars, or teenagers.

Perhaps Rome and Caligula wasn't so bad after all. "The Roman emperor from A.D. 37-41, Caligula was known for trying to expand the absolute power of the emperor, humiliate the Roman(American) Senate, spend the public Treasury down to oblivion, and promote an orgiastic culture of decadence in his court."

Edited November 21, 2024 by Phil1111

[richravizza 28]

11 hours ago, jakee said:

In what way does that make sense to you? You think that because Tesla and SpaceX are successful, Musk going to court to try and back out of buying Twitter because he thought he'd made a terrible deal didn't really happen?

They said  buying Alaska was a terrible deal too. I think our 1A was worth it.Of course the Government's propaganda arm isn't on your side so we understand the ressentiment.But simple motive should be clear.

8 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Cute. Why not be honest and state that you are also clueless but somebody needs to do something and if a percentage of the harmed are US residents or citizens, which will happen, it's their tough tit for looking so Mexican. And, by the way, fuck Mexico, we will land there and off load these assholes wherever we want and if you don't like it just try to stop us.

Just like a Leftist, brake it, burn it. Now we have to fix it.

6 hours ago, base698 said:

I'm not painting them all that way.  I'm referring to a specific class of them, namely the schizo ones setting buildings on fire because they are getting high in their homeless encampments. 

Letting these people, the dangerous ones, on the street is a danger to the ones that do need help. 

Adios Gascon, the liberal experiment has given us some consequential knowledge.lol

See "San Fransicko" 

Come on Phill, you can do better than that.

[metalslug 36]

10 hours ago, rushmc said:

Damn

Talk about thread hijack.

Alright then; back to positive polling news; A poll released by Puck News/Echelon Insights "found that 41 percent of likely Democratic voters would vote for Harris to be on the top of the Democratic ticket in 2028". If Trump can hold it together for 4 years, even if the improvement is small, then Republicans are set again.

[jakee 1,489]

36 minutes ago, metalslug said:

Alright then; back to positive polling news; A poll released by Puck News/Echelon Insights "found that 41 percent of likely Democratic voters would vote for Harris to be on the top of the Democratic ticket in 2028". If Trump can hold it together for 4 years, even if the improvement is small, then Republicans are set again.

Since you apparently can’t remember what happened 4 years ago you shouldn’t be trying to predict 4 years in the future.

[metalslug 36]

4 minutes ago, jakee said:

Since you apparently can’t remember what happened 4 years ago you shouldn’t be trying to predict 4 years in the future.

Are you kidding? 4 years ago was perhaps the best part of this. Biden picked Harris as VP in a masterstroke of long term Dem capitulation. A downside is that this forum is unlikely to still be here by 2028 to see how this works out.

[jakee 1,489]

3 minutes ago, metalslug said:

Are you kidding?

Are you? What happened to Trump 4 years ago?

[metalslug 36]

16 minutes ago, jakee said:

Are you? What happened to Trump 4 years ago?

A lot of things happened to Trump 4 years ago. Enjoying a Big Mac was probably one. If you can't specify what you're looking for then go browse the archives. However; none of it will matter much in 2028 because he'll be out of the race.

[jakee 1,489]

14 minutes ago, metalslug said:

A lot of things happened to Trump 4 years ago. Enjoying a Big Mac was probably one. If you can't specify what you're looking for then go browse the archives. 

You can’t figure it out yourself? He and his ideas were conclusively rejected by the electorate, but the Rs kept supporting him. 

[metalslug 36]

1 minute ago, jakee said:

You can’t figure it out yourself? He and his ideas were conclusively rejected by the electorate, but the Rs kept supporting him. 

We know who's having the last laugh now.