Trumps Victory Was Great! BUT..

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

If that's the threat do drug addicts in general go other places?  Would that free the police to intervene with the violent and dangerous ones?

No. They're addicts, right? The nature of addiction is such that the two most important things to them are a supply of drugs and the ability to beg or steal money to buy those drugs with. Second to that, food water and shelter. Are you going to find those things outside the city?

 

1 hour ago, base698 said:

It used to be they weren't allowed to wonder out of the bad areas.  

So you want to victimise poor, innocent people who can't afford to live outside the bad areas by pushing all the homeless people at them? What will you say to them when they complain to you about all the homeless people on their doorsteps?

[SkyDekker 1,465]

17 hours ago, base698 said:

I said move them.

Maybe in a train? And then have them shower?

Generally people understand that rounding up people and putting them into camps is not a great idea. No I understand why Republicans support closing the Department of Education. We wouldn't want people to learn from the past....

[SkyDekker 1,465]

17 hours ago, base698 said:

Right, but you either give people agency and responsibilities for their actions or they destroy everything around them.  People on cancer don't steal catalytic converters, smoke meth on public transit and punch random people on the street. 

I've never seen a cancer patient try to masturbate on an old lady in public.

Maybe if you taxed a few of your billionaires and provided health care to people, you wouldn't have to sound like a Nazi advocating for mass encampment of people you don't like......

 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

Maybe if you taxed a few of your billionaires and provided health care to people, you wouldn't have to sound like a Nazi advocating for mass encampment of people you don't like......

 

And that is the word on the subject.

[billvon 2,990]

7 hours ago, base698 said:

What about a corner boy selling crack and fentanyl in the open at 8am on a weekday?  

Because if it was 8am on a weekend, why - that's OK.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

 

14 hours ago, metalslug said:

We know who's having the last laugh now.

One of the great fallacies in life, thinking you are at the end of a timeline.

Edited November 21, 2024 by SkyDekker

[nigel99 471]

8 hours ago, base698 said:

I've stated over and over when given the choice between treatment with housing and staying on the street, they choose to stay on the street.   They may not like it at first, but the decision they make is to continue with addiction and not seek treatment.  Addicts given food stamps will sell them to enterprising restaurants for pennies on the dollar so the restaurants can buy rice.  There are other benefits that incentivizes an addict not to seek treatment and stay on the street.  

Sometime in the last 20 years the containment of skid row (and similar areas) was allowed to spill out into the rest of the cities.  If you want to let them wallow in misery at least go back to that.  It used to be they weren't allowed to wonder out of the bad areas.  The tolerance and treating it like a victimless crime is what got us here. 

Should alcohol be banned?

Alcoholics should also be sent to camps?

I asked before, what about  Matt Gaetz drug abuse. Is that acceptable? 

Rudy’s drinking is that acceptable because he’s in Trump’s inner circle?

[rushmc 23]

And still no responses to the coming death of the administrative state. Good bye Chevron Deference 

And good riddance 

Edited November 22, 2024 by rushmc

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

1 hour ago, nigel99 said:

Should alcohol be banned?

Alcoholics should also be sent to camps?

I asked before, what about  Matt Gaetz drug abuse. Is that acceptable? 

Rudy’s drinking is that acceptable because he’s in Trump’s inner circle?

Hi Nigel,

Re:   he’s in Trump’s inner circle?

Was, Trump no longer knows who he is.

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 471]

38 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Nigel,

Re:   he’s in Trump’s inner circle?

Was, Trump no longer knows who he is.

Jerry Baumchen

He’s already been sent to a camp?

[wmw999 2,444]

59 minutes ago, rushmc said:

And still no responses to the coming death of the administrative state. Good bye Chevron Deference 

And good riddance 

Well, the administrative state is what Theodore Roosevelt fought for (aka the Civil Service). I think that a whole lot of jobs SHOULD have civil service protection, exactly so that they don't become political pawns.

We've gotten awfully big as a country; people you know nothing about also live here, and are citizens, and have needs you couldn't care less about. Do you want your needs served before them?

Wendy P.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

43 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

He’s already been sent to a camp?

Hi Nigel,

I think that the bankruptcy judge is considering it.

Jerry Baumchen

[tkhayes 348]

On 11/20/2024 at 9:35 AM, RonD1120 said:

1. Return of oil and natural gas production

2. Finish "The Wall" and deport the illegals 

3. Audit and reduce the function of the EPA

4. Streamline and reduce government administrative staff

5. Remove the Department of Education and allow states to determine curriculum

 

still waiting.  your lack of response only shows the weakness and fragility of you argument.  What I expected.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

2 hours ago, rushmc said:

And still no responses to the coming death of the administrative state. Good bye Chevron Deference 

And good riddance 

Good goog-a-loo man, do you have the slightest inkling about the effects of a complete dismantling of this "Administrative State"? I think a lot of folks left and right wouldn't be offended with a personnel reduction in the agencies, especially now. Frankly I'd like to see you get what you want for the harm it would cause Red states and Trump voters like you. So yes, blow it up and good luck.

[RonD1120 62]

9 hours ago, tkhayes said:

still waiting.  your lack of response only shows the weakness and fragility of you argument.  What I expected.

I was not arguing. I simply answered a question. 

[Phil1111 1,149]

11 hours ago, wmw999 said:

........ Do you want your needs served before them?

Wendy P.

Kinda softball isn't it?

trump's share of the popular vote is now at 49.87%. Considering that there was only two parties in the election the title of this thread is outright misleading. If not false. Once again the fatal flaw of the electoral college has failed America and sown division.

[gowlerk 2,190]

17 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Kinda softball isn't it?

trump's share of the popular vote is now at 49.87%. Considering that there was only two parties in the election the title of this thread is outright misleading. If not false. Once again the fatal flaw of the electoral college has failed America and sown division.

It is disingenuous to argue about which side is in the majority at this point. It is close to an even split in house the senate and the presidency. But clearly the right is winning and has seized the moment. The electoral college is not to blame this time. The people are to blame.

[normiss 798]

22 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

It is disingenuous to argue about which side is in the majority at this point. It is close to an even split in house the senate and the presidency. But clearly the right is winning and has seized the moment. The electoral college is not to blame this time. The people are to blame.

The people that have voted against Trump, 3 times now, and he has never won the popular vote.

Majority rule appears to be dead.

[gowlerk 2,190]

24 minutes ago, normiss said:

The people that have voted against Trump, 3 times now, and he has never won the popular vote.

Majority rule appears to be dead.

The people don't actually choose who to vote against. They only choose who to vote for. I will confess that because I live in a country with a parliamentary system not only do I not even get a direct vote for the leader of the nation I also live with the fact that no prime ministers party have received a majority of votes for as long as I can remember. 34% will usually win the government and 40% is a landslide. So I'm having a hard time sympathizing with you for that weakness in your system. Even though I share your strong feelings about the result you are stuck with. But it is not the system, it is the people.  

Edited November 22, 2024 by gowlerk

[wmw999 2,444]

1 hour ago, Phil1111 said:

12 hours ago, wmw999 said:

........ Do you want your needs served before them?

Wendy P.

Kinda softball isn't it?

Soft balls are hit back and turned into discussions. Hardballs just go right past and lead to talking at, rather than with, each other. It's not like baseball or Uncle where you win and the other guy acknowledges it.

Wendy P.

[base698 14]

22 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Maybe if you taxed a few of your billionaires and provided health care to people, you wouldn't have to sound like a Nazi advocating for mass encampment of people you don't like......

 

You could tax all our billionaires at 90% and it wouldn't put a dent on our interest payment on the debt.  In addition, I would bet those funds end up ear marked for whatever corrupt grift they come up with.  Maybe it would be used for studying trans inclusive FBOs related to the propensity of skydiving acceptance of alphabet people.

 

[normiss 798]

6 minutes ago, base698 said:

You could tax all our billionaires at 90% and it wouldn't put a dent on our interest payment on the debt.  In addition, I would bet those funds end up ear marked for whatever corrupt grift they come up with.  Maybe it would be used for studying trans inclusive FBOs related to the propensity of skydiving acceptance of alphabet people.

 

says a guy with an alphabet salad for a name ... I hope your hate eats you up inside. Because it will.

[gowlerk 2,190]

9 minutes ago, base698 said:

Maybe it would be used for studying trans inclusive FBOs related to the propensity of skydiving acceptance of alphabet people.

The alphabet people (other than plain gay) are a very small slice of the population. But the emotion and hatred generated in the right wing over them is very powerful. A very effective driver of voters, even more effective than the anti-semitism of the 1930s. We all love to hate someone.

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by gowlerk

[olofscience 480]

30 minutes ago, normiss said:

says a guy with an alphabet salad for a name ... I hope your hate eats you up inside. Because it will.

Remember The Hundredth Monkey?

He was posting some of the worst hate here...he's passed now.

[jakee 1,489]

42 minutes ago, base698 said:

You could tax all our billionaires at 90% and it wouldn't put a dent on our interest payment on the debt. 

I am afraid that is just a display of your own lack of economic awareness. Collective wealth of US billionaires is currently increasing at around $1T/yr. 90% of that would more than pay for US debt interest.

I would guess that, like most low tax right wingers, you have no concept of how rich the very rich are.