wolfriverjoe 1,523 #26 November 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, jakee said: Why? Because he thinks it's a clever thing to say, completely ignoring the reality of how many times he's said something that legitimately gets that response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 November 25, 2024 2 hours ago, rushmc said: Irony meter explodes The irony being that without google you couldn't provide a definition of irony. You are no tourist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 November 26, 2024 8 hours ago, SkyDekker said: The irony being that without google you couldn't provide a definition of irony. You are no tourist. One case left And that one will dead soon too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,067 #29 November 26, 2024 1 hour ago, rushmc said: And that one will dead soon too Good thing that Trump has managed to remain above the law. He lost the last two, so he'd be spending time in jail if he was subject to the same justice as the rest of us are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #30 November 26, 2024 23 minutes ago, billvon said: Good thing that Trump has managed to remain above the law. He lost the last two, so he'd be spending time in jail if he was subject to the same justice as the rest of us are. His own communications director said that he likely would have spent the rest of his life in prison had he not won the election. Which is kind of a shame because that treasonous piece of shit BELONGS behind bars for the rest of his life. Look at how other, 'ordinary' people are treated when they steal classified documents. Arrested. Jailed. No bail. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/12/nx-s1-5188606/jack-teixeira-sentenced-military-documents-leak Arrested April of 23. Guilty plea March of 24. Sentenced 2 weeks ago. One year 7 months from arrest to sentencing. 15 years in prison. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #31 November 26, 2024 17 hours ago, billvon said: Good thing that Trump has managed to remain above the law. He lost the last two, so he'd be spending time in jail if he was subject to the same justice as the rest of us are. Just like Bidens garage got raided You have a strange view of equal justice And those remaining with end up thrown out on appeal 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,561 #32 November 26, 2024 2 hours ago, rushmc said: Just like Bidens garage got raided Trump's house wasn't raided because he took classified documents home. He was given chance after chance after chance to give them back and walk away scott free with no repercussions and no publicity. Trump's house wasn't raided because he lied to the National Archives and kept classified documents he knew it was illegal for him to have. Trump's house wasn't even raided the first time he instructed his lawyers to lie to the FBI about how many classified documents he still had. Trump's house was raided when after over a year of trying to get him to do the right thing, the FBI became convinced he would never return those documents. Instead he was shipping them around the country, deleting CCTV footage, creating false affidavits, all to facilitate his continued theft of property that belongs to the country. The only thing biased or unfair about the situation is the staggering level of deference and preferential treatment he received from start to finish. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 566 #33 November 27, 2024 2 hours ago, jakee said: Trump's house wasn't raided because he took classified documents home. He was given chance after chance after chance to give them back and walk away scott free with no repercussions and no publicity. Trump's house wasn't raided because he lied to the National Archives and kept classified documents he knew it was illegal for him to have. Trump's house wasn't even raided the first time he instructed his lawyers to lie to the FBI about how many classified documents he still had. Trump's house was raided when after over a year of trying to get him to do the right thing, the FBI became convinced he would never return those documents. Instead he was shipping them around the country, deleting CCTV footage, creating false affidavits, all to facilitate his continued theft of property that belongs to the country. The only thing biased or unfair about the situation is the staggering level of deference and preferential treatment he received from start to finish. I don’t think I will ever understand how Trump managed to take over the whole US establishment. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,820 #34 November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: I don’t think I will ever understand how Trump managed to take over the whole US establishment. I disagree. Just follow the Goebbels play book, be a narcissistic sociopath, garner the support of the richest citizens whose sole desire is to get richer, and trust in your fellow men to turn on each other on the basest of pretexts. Bada Bing. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #35 November 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: I disagree. Just follow the Goebbels play book, be a narcissistic sociopath, garner the support of the richest citizens whose sole desire is to get richer, and trust in your fellow men to turn on each other on the basest of pretexts. Bada Bing. And play on the pathetic ignorance of a base of supporters, whose members don't recognize a lying con-man even when they see him in action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,820 #36 November 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, kallend said: And play on the pathetic ignorance of a base of supporters, whose members don't recognize a lying con-man even when they see him in action. Some don’t. Quite a few don’t care as long as their pet desires are promised service. Jaybird is far from stupid or ignorant, same with Brent, and I’d posit the same about Ron, airdvr, and some of our other correspondents here. They will all, after their own fashion, succeed and possibly flourish during Trump v.2 as will you and I and many other lefties here because we have the tools. Because of those folks, not the dimwits who will suffer and still blame us, I’m thinking we may already be a decade into the American 100 year Right. Four more years of Trump, then eight of Don Jr. and a future Mitch McConnell clone might seem a relief. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,432 #37 November 27, 2024 17 hours ago, kallend said: And play on the pathetic ignorance of a base of supporters, whose members don't recognize a lying con-man even when they see him in action. Hi John, The success of being a good pick-pocket it to never let them know that their pockets are being picked. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #38 November 27, 2024 18 hours ago, JoeWeber said: I disagree. Just follow the Goebbels play book, be a narcissistic sociopath, garner the support of the richest citizens whose sole desire is to get richer, and trust in your fellow men to turn on each other on the basest of pretexts. Bada Bing. Agree 18 hours ago, kallend said: And play on the pathetic ignorance of a base of supporters, whose members don't recognize a lying con-man even when they see him in action. Agree 18 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Some don’t. Quite a few don’t care as long as their pet desires are promised service. Jaybird is far from stupid or ignorant, same with Brent, and I’d posit the same about Ron, airdvr, and some of our other correspondents here. They will all, after their own fashion, succeed and possibly flourish during Trump v.2 as will you and I and many other lefties here because we have the tools. Because of those folks, not the dimwits who will suffer and still blame us, I’m thinking we may already be a decade into the American 100 year Right. Four more years of Trump, then eight of Don Jr. and a future Mitch McConnell clone might seem a relief. And agree. But it seems as though you-all forgot what happened to Steve Bannon and his gang of fascists... er... I mean Goebbels and his henchmen. They all thought that they could exist without allies, exist without friends, war with everyone. It all ended badly and certainly never lasted 1000 years. It never lasted five. trump is coming up to the throne believing that there are no restrictions. That everyone has betrayed him and must be punished, be humiliated. That his enemies must end up like Rudy Giuliani. Does anyone believe that a dictator limits his conduct to one day? His excess to one day? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,820 #39 November 27, 2024 1 hour ago, Phil1111 said: Agree Agree And agree. But it seems as though you-all forgot what happened to Steve Bannon and his gang of fascists... er... I mean Goebbels and his henchmen. They all thought that they could exist without allies, exist without friends, war with everyone. It all ended badly and certainly never lasted 1000 years. It never lasted five. trump is coming up to the throne believing that there are no restrictions. That everyone has betrayed him and must be punished, be humiliated. That his enemies must end up like Rudy Giuliani. Does anyone believe that a dictator limits his conduct to one day? His excess to one day? Just maybe if Germany had split Poland with Russia and stayed out of England for 4-5 years they might have been able to use the resources of continental Europe, added to their technological prowess, to create a truly impenetrable Fortress Europe. Then with overwhelming power they'd have been positioned to take the rest bit by bit starting with Scandinavia and negotiating the complete surrender of England. Seems to me they lost owing to greed and impatience more than anything else. So will Trump. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #40 November 28, 2024 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: .... Seems to me they lost owing to greed and impatience more than anything else. So will Trump. Agree but I would suggest greed and arrogance. The Nazis believed they were the superior race. trump believes he can't be beat by the system and to date he's been right. Its kinda like a kid on a crotch rocket running from the cops. Or somebody showboating low to the ground. Sooner or later, one way or another. With no pun intended trump thinks he's the golden one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #41 November 29, 2024 Someone who gets it is Macron. At the preview of the reopening of Notre Dame cathedral following the fire, instead of a bunch of politicians, bigwigs and other blowhards, he invited the carpenters, lumberjacks, masons, architects, sculptors, organ builders, cleaners, etc. who had done the actual work of rebuilding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #42 November 29, 2024 1 hour ago, kallend said: Someone who gets it is Macron. At the preview of the reopening of Notre Dame cathedral following the fire, instead of a bunch of politicians, bigwigs and other blowhards, he invited the carpenters, lumberjacks, masons, architects, sculptors, organ builders, cleaners, etc. who had done the actual work of rebuilding. They sure did a nice job. A $700 million euro work of art to rebuild. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #43 December 2, 2024 On 11/29/2024 at 8:06 AM, Phil1111 said: They sure did a nice job. A $700 million euro work of art to rebuild. I guess that is the difference. $700 euros to restore history, or $2 billion to play football. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil1111 1,149 #44 December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, SkyDekker said: I guess that is the difference. $700 euros to restore history, or $2 billion to play football. Ah the French and art. Americans and football: SoFi Stadium tops the list, costing $5.95 billion in inflation adjusted dollars.8 stadiums cost over $1 billion to build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartsDaddy 7 #45 December 3, 2024 9 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I guess that is the difference. $700 euros to restore history, or $2 billion to play football. They did a great job for $700 euros. Could you explain what $700 euros is? But i agree the there is way too much money spent on football american and world. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #46 December 3, 2024 13 hours ago, BartsDaddy said: They did a great job for $700 euros. Could you explain what $700 euros is? But i agree the there is way too much money spent on football american and world. Yeah I couldn't be bothered to look up the code for the Euro symbol and I didn't add "million". Somehow you still got the gist of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites