jaybird18c 22 #301 December 27, 2024 (edited) 32 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Move on. And, consider that maybe putting two and two together doesn't always mean the answer is four, because it's not really just two and two -- we interpret facts and turn them into stories that make sense to us. It's on us to get enough facts to figure out the difference between our comfortable story and what actually happened. Wendy P. You sound like the cop who pulls you over for speeding. You admit to it and apologize. Everybody knows it was wrong. He hands you a ticket, but then feels the need to proceed to give you a five minute lecture on just how dangerous speeding is. Thank you. Edited December 27, 2024 by jaybird18c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #302 December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: You sound like the cop who pulls you over for speeding. You admit to it and apologize. Everybody knows it was wrong. He hands you a ticket, but then feels the need to proceed to give you a five minute lecture on just how dangerous speeding is. Thank you. They do that quite deliberately. If you think about it you'll realise why. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #303 December 27, 2024 Just now, kallend said: They do that quite deliberately. If you think about it you'll realise why. I did think about it. I didn’t dispute the fact that they do it intentionally. I even said thank you. I’m just stating what it felt like. I even appreciate your condescension. Merry Christmas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #304 December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, jaybird18c said: You sound like the cop who pulls you over for speeding. You admit to it and apologize. Everybody knows it was wrong. He hands you a ticket, but then feels the need to proceed to give you a five minute lecture on just how dangerous speeding is. Thank you. Good for the cop being willing to take the time to actually make roads safer, rather than just be a ticket dispenser. Any skydiver who has ever been Burked will appreciate that approach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #305 December 27, 2024 6 minutes ago, billvon said: Good for the cop being willing to take the time to actually make roads safer, rather than just be a ticket dispenser. Any skydiver who has ever been Burked will appreciate that approach. I’d rather he just give me a professional courtesy warning like he usually does and move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #306 December 27, 2024 2 hours ago, jaybird18c said: I’d rather he just give me a professional courtesy warning like he usually does and move on. Ah — equal protection. Frankly, I hate that. Laws should be laws, and discretion shouldn’t only apply to people just like you. Situational, not personal Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #307 December 27, 2024 Just now, wmw999 said: Ah — equal protection. Frankly, I hate that. Laws should be laws, and discretion shouldn’t only apply to people just like you. Wendy P. A large portion of black folks get their own version of courtesy warnings when interacting with cops. Seems to be part of the institutional racism America "doesn't have". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #308 December 27, 2024 3 hours ago, jaybird18c said: I’d rather he just give me a professional courtesy warning like he usually does and move on. Of course. And being a white straight male, you will usually get that. But if he does give you a ticket, I'd rather have him give you that professional warning as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #309 December 27, 2024 5 hours ago, jaybird18c said: I did think about it. I didn’t dispute the fact that they do it intentionally. I even said thank you. I’m just stating what it felt like. So you were giving Wendy a complement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #310 December 27, 2024 32 minutes ago, billvon said: Of course. And being a white straight male, you will usually get that. But if he does give you a ticket, I'd rather have him give you that professional warning as well. I’m a Fire Captain. I work with them on the streets. It’s not racist. It’s what I said. Professional courtesy. I’m sorry if that upsets you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #311 December 27, 2024 3 hours ago, jaybird18c said: I’d rather he just give me a professional courtesy warning like he usually does and move on. Usually? Sounds like you're throwing the courtesy back in his face and you really should be ticketed for habitually driving like a dick, no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #312 December 27, 2024 Just now, jakee said: Usually? Sounds like you're throwing the courtesy back in his face and you really should be ticketed for habitually driving like a dick, no? Woulda, coulda, shoulda…but I won’t. You mad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #313 December 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, jakee said: Usually? Sounds like you're throwing the courtesy back in his face and you really should be ticketed for habitually driving like a dick, no? Life is so unfair. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #314 December 27, 2024 Fucking white people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #315 December 27, 2024 7 minutes ago, normiss said: Fucking white people. Seriously! :) Wait…my black friends do the same thing…so do the cops. But yeah! You’re right. Racism…everywhere!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #316 December 27, 2024 40 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I’m a Fire Captain. I work with them on the streets. It’s not racist. I didn't say it was. Statistically you are FAR more likely to get "just a warning" from a cop if you are white. Especially from cops who claim there's no racism on the force. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #317 December 27, 2024 On 12/16/2024 at 2:18 PM, SkyDekker said: There is no doubt in my mind that Trump will use an Executive Order declaring changes to the interpretation of the 14th Amendment. That will be challenged in court and will eventually end up in front of SCOTUS. I think it is very likely SCOTUS will take on the case, considering the last ruling on this Amendment was in the late 1800's. It is very conceivable SCOTUS will take a very narrow reading of the qualifier in question. I give it 80/20 odds that SCOTUS will rule birthright citizenship does not exists for children born to parents who are both non-citizens. The real question is if they will go out of their way to find a path to make that retroactive. The actual issue becomes…. To which country do you deport US born citizens? Why would those countries accept people who are citizens of another country? the fall of birth right citizenship is not going to happen because it is unenforceable at any level just another trump lie and failed campaign promise that he can blame on the deep state 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 466 #318 December 27, 2024 1 hour ago, normiss said: Fucking white people. Funnily enough my daughter is a child protection case worker and she now avoids working with whites due to their attitudes. She loves working with the remote communities and the indigenous people. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #319 December 28, 2024 28 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Funnily enough my daughter is a child protection case worker and she now avoids working with whites due to their attitudes. She loves working with the remote communities and the indigenous people. Well THAT certainly is racist! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 466 #320 December 28, 2024 40 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Well THAT certainly is racist! The vast majority of white people who require intervention by child protection are druggies, ignorant and extremely abusive and think they know the law. Having to deal with some Karen who is refusing to allow her kid to be vaccinated because of Faucci and 5G, or the 14-16 year olds running away from home because the parents won’t let them smoke pot or drink. Or you can deal with situations where people don’t have the skills and knowledge on how to parent effectively and are desperate for help and guidance. Look into the effects of the stolen generation in Australia and you quickly see the lasting damage that was done. Australia has its equivalent of idiotic MAGA nuts, ignorant, racist, scream about immigrants etc and yet live off the state handouts while smoking crack. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #321 December 28, 2024 17 minutes ago, nigel99 said: The vast majority of white people who require intervention by child protection are druggies, ignorant and extremely abusive and think they know the law. Having to deal with some Karen who is refusing to allow her kid to be vaccinated because of Faucci and 5G, or the 14-16 year olds running away from home because the parents won’t let them smoke pot or drink. Or you can deal with situations where people don’t have the skills and knowledge on how to parent effectively and are desperate for help and guidance. Look into the effects of the stolen generation in Australia and you quickly see the lasting damage that was done. Australia has its equivalent of idiotic MAGA nuts, ignorant, racist, scream about immigrants etc and yet live off the state handouts while smoking crack. Are you trying to justify the racism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 466 #322 December 28, 2024 33 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: Are you trying to justify the racism? Are you triggered that trailer trash white people can be worse people than non whites who come from disadvantaged backgrounds? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #323 December 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Are you triggered that trailer trash white people can be worse people than non whites who come from disadvantaged backgrounds? To be fair, most “trailer trash” come from backgrounds that are disadvantaged, too Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #324 December 28, 2024 5 minutes ago, wmw999 said: To be fair, most “trailer trash” come from backgrounds that are disadvantaged, too Wendy P. Is “trailer trash” appropriate and not considered racist or offensive in leftist vernacular? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #325 December 28, 2024 Not really, but I was quoting Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites