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5 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

This equally applies to you:

“I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. You’re obviously still trying to convince me of something though. Not sure why.”

I'm kinda fuzzy on what I'm trying to convince anyone of, have no idea who or what you are, and am unsure what difference it might make whether or not we agree.

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A couple of thoughts:

Why isn't crafting an algorithm to deliberately, and repeatedly, deny someone life saving medication or treatment considered to be premeditated murder?

Why are there more people employed by the Health Insurance industry, to deny people's claims, than there are doctors practicing in the US? (1.5 million v 1 million)

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1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Great.

Where is it?

Your previous 'last answer' was that I wouldn't accept it if you presented it...

While presenting NOTHING.

How about one piece of verifiable, repeatable valid evidence.

You know you won't get any, because none exists.

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9 hours ago, kallend said:

You know you won't get any, because none exists.

So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. 

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1 hour ago, jaybird18c said:

So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. 

Post #332 wasn't me.

Facts aren't your thing, are they?

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2 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. 

Nope. I'm just pointing out (again) that you've made numerous claims that turn out to be complete bullshit.

And when challenged on them, you either run away from them or just keep on bullshitting.

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18 hours ago, rifleman said:

Why isn't crafting an algorithm to deliberately, and repeatedly, deny someone life saving medication or treatment considered to be premeditated murder?

For the same reason it's not premeditated murder to repeatedly deny a beggar money he needs to survive.  It is no doubt a shitty thing to do, of course.

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3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Nope. I'm just pointing out (again) that you've made numerous claims that turn out to be complete bullshit.

And when challenged on them, you either run away from them or just keep on bullshitting.

“Don’t let your philosophical predilections distort your evaluation of the evidence.”

 

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3 hours ago, billvon said:

For the same reason it's not premeditated murder to repeatedly deny a beggar money he needs to survive.  It is no doubt a shitty thing to do, of course.

It is an interesting moral question. At what point does an organisation have a moral obligation to deliver it’s product and in the health insurance industry what are the consequences of wrongful denial, or what should they be? 

Social responsibility is something I’ve started getting very interested in recently. The one that grabs my attention is the large supermarket chains. They actively structure themselves to minimise taxes, in a legal but morally questionable way. Then they replace low skilled jobs with automation and technology like self checkouts. 

The end result is that low skilled jobs opportunities are reducing in the suburbs, putting more people on welfare. On top of that many elderly people’s social contact comes from chatting to the person at the counter. 

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6 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

 

“Don’t let your philosophical predilections distort your evaluation of the evidence.”

 

O

I'm not going to listen to an hour of bullshit. 

There's no ACTUAL evidence and you know it.

Either that or you don't know what constitutes 'evidence'.

Edit to add:

A quick search found a fair amount on this bullshit.

Standard "intelligent design" garbage.


 

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38 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

O

I'm not going to listen to an hour of bullshit. 

There's no ACTUAL evidence and you know it.

Either that or you don't know what constitutes 'evidence'.

Edit to add:

A quick search found a fair amount on this bullshit.

Standard "intelligent design" garbage.


 

It’s a lecture at Cambridge. Idiots! Not you. Them! ;)

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11 hours ago, kallend said:

So what?

Does lecturing at Cambridge make one infallible?

I didn’t say that at all. I was just saying that you might consider it a little more than horseshit. But that’s up to you. It’s an interesting lecture, whether you agree or not.

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43 minutes ago, jaybird18c said:

I didn’t say that at all. I was just saying that you might consider it a little more than horseshit. But that’s up to you. It’s an interesting lecture, whether you agree or not.

I lectured at Cambridge, 1972-77.  Perhaps you should pay more attention to me.

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