jaybird18c 22 #351 December 28, 2024 Just now, normiss said: Not even, but at least you're woke. I think you’re racist even if that’s not what you meant by it and you don’t even realize it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #352 December 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I think you’re racist even if that’s not what you meant by it and you don’t even realize it. Bless your heart. You don't know me, and you seem to not even understand what racism is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #353 December 28, 2024 Just now, normiss said: Bless your heart. You don't know me, and you seem to not even understand what racism is. Who’s blessing my heart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #354 December 28, 2024 5 hours ago, jaybird18c said: This equally applies to you: “I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. You’re obviously still trying to convince me of something though. Not sure why.” I'm kinda fuzzy on what I'm trying to convince anyone of, have no idea who or what you are, and am unsure what difference it might make whether or not we agree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 70 #355 December 29, 2024 A couple of thoughts: Why isn't crafting an algorithm to deliberately, and repeatedly, deny someone life saving medication or treatment considered to be premeditated murder? Why are there more people employed by the Health Insurance industry, to deny people's claims, than there are doctors practicing in the US? (1.5 million v 1 million) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #356 December 29, 2024 12 hours ago, jaybird18c said: Overwhelming would be a better word. Great. Where is it? Your previous 'last answer' was that I wouldn't accept it if you presented it... While presenting NOTHING. How about one piece of verifiable, repeatable valid evidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #357 December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said: Great. Where is it? Your previous 'last answer' was that I wouldn't accept it if you presented it... While presenting NOTHING. How about one piece of verifiable, repeatable valid evidence. You know you won't get any, because none exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #358 December 29, 2024 Just now, kallend said: You know you won't get any, because none exists. But it doesn't exist overwhelmingly. So there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #359 December 29, 2024 9 hours ago, kallend said: You know you won't get any, because none exists. So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #360 December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. Post #332 wasn't me. Facts aren't your thing, are they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #361 December 29, 2024 2 hours ago, jaybird18c said: So you’re looking to turn this thread into a religious one? I’ll pass. It’s been argued to death before. You go ahead and believe what you believe and I’ll do the same. Like I said before, I’m not trying to convince you of anything anymore. Nope. I'm just pointing out (again) that you've made numerous claims that turn out to be complete bullshit. And when challenged on them, you either run away from them or just keep on bullshitting. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #362 December 29, 2024 18 hours ago, rifleman said: Why isn't crafting an algorithm to deliberately, and repeatedly, deny someone life saving medication or treatment considered to be premeditated murder? For the same reason it's not premeditated murder to repeatedly deny a beggar money he needs to survive. It is no doubt a shitty thing to do, of course. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #363 December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said: Nope. I'm just pointing out (again) that you've made numerous claims that turn out to be complete bullshit. And when challenged on them, you either run away from them or just keep on bullshitting. “Don’t let your philosophical predilections distort your evaluation of the evidence.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #364 December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: “Don’t let your philosophical predilections distort your evaluation of the evidence.” Seems you don't know what a hypothesis is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #365 December 29, 2024 33 minutes ago, kallend said: Seems you don't know what a hypothesis is? I do and it seems like you did not watch the video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #366 December 29, 2024 Just now, jaybird18c said: I do and it seems like you did not watch the video. Better things to do with my time than listen to garbage about mythical creatures. Harry Potter is more realistic. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #367 December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, kallend said: Better things to do with my time than listen to garbage about mythical creatures. Harry Potter is more realistic. Then it’s not for you. Ok. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 466 #368 December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, billvon said: For the same reason it's not premeditated murder to repeatedly deny a beggar money he needs to survive. It is no doubt a shitty thing to do, of course. It is an interesting moral question. At what point does an organisation have a moral obligation to deliver it’s product and in the health insurance industry what are the consequences of wrongful denial, or what should they be? Social responsibility is something I’ve started getting very interested in recently. The one that grabs my attention is the large supermarket chains. They actively structure themselves to minimise taxes, in a legal but morally questionable way. Then they replace low skilled jobs with automation and technology like self checkouts. The end result is that low skilled jobs opportunities are reducing in the suburbs, putting more people on welfare. On top of that many elderly people’s social contact comes from chatting to the person at the counter. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #369 December 30, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, jaybird18c said: “Don’t let your philosophical predilections distort your evaluation of the evidence.” O I'm not going to listen to an hour of bullshit. There's no ACTUAL evidence and you know it. Either that or you don't know what constitutes 'evidence'. Edit to add: A quick search found a fair amount on this bullshit. Standard "intelligent design" garbage. Edited December 30, 2024 by wolfriverjoe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #370 December 30, 2024 (edited) 38 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said: O I'm not going to listen to an hour of bullshit. There's no ACTUAL evidence and you know it. Either that or you don't know what constitutes 'evidence'. Edit to add: A quick search found a fair amount on this bullshit. Standard "intelligent design" garbage. It’s a lecture at Cambridge. Idiots! Not you. Them! Edited December 30, 2024 by jaybird18c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,720 #371 December 30, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, jaybird18c said: It’s a lecture at Cambridge. Idiots! Not you. Them! Just because you stumble face forward into a pile of horseshit doesn't mean there’s a nice pony nearby. Edited December 30, 2024 by JoeWeber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #372 December 30, 2024 1 hour ago, jaybird18c said: It’s a lecture at Cambridge. So what? Does lecturing at Cambridge make one infallible? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybird18c 22 #373 December 30, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, kallend said: So what? Does lecturing at Cambridge make one infallible? I didn’t say that at all. I was just saying that you might consider it a little more than horseshit. But that’s up to you. It’s an interesting lecture, whether you agree or not. Edited December 30, 2024 by jaybird18c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 798 #374 December 30, 2024 I've never found horseshit to be interesting. Usually it's just a waste of time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #375 December 30, 2024 43 minutes ago, jaybird18c said: I didn’t say that at all. I was just saying that you might consider it a little more than horseshit. But that’s up to you. It’s an interesting lecture, whether you agree or not. I lectured at Cambridge, 1972-77. Perhaps you should pay more attention to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites