No gas for 2024

[wmw999 2,449]

44 minutes ago, winsor said:

People who wish for committees to make their decisions for them may not be retarded, but it's hard to tell.

Isn't using statistics and outside-developed information in a decision taking committee input?

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

1 hour ago, winsor said:

I'm a fiscal conservative and that's about it.

Until a fetus is viable, making sure a child is truly wanted is a very good thing.  Ensuring that unwanted chidren are not born is a matter of responsibility, preferably by virtue of birth control. 
Abstinence is bad, committed relationships are good, VD is bad.

Unwanted children are more likely to turn into undesirable adults.  Postnatal abortion is thus sometimes indicated when the fetus turns evil, such as with Luigi Mangione.

"Conservative application of government" is generally a good thing, since government is generally a poor servant and a terrible master.

People who wish for committees to make their decisions for them may not be retarded, but it's hard to tell.

BSBD,

Winsor

I neither need nor want committees to make my decisions for me. However, for the vast majority I think any committee or even a bingo tumbler with answers written on the balls is a better solution than trusting their judgements. 

[riggerrob 643]

On 12/17/2024 at 8:50 PM, billvon said:

We have two cars - a Tesla model S (which Amy gets of course) and an 8 year old Prius Prime.  I last filled it in November of 2023 after a trip to Vegas for work.

Since then I haven't filled it, and I still have 1/8 of a tank left.  So looks like I will make it all the way through 2024 without buying gas once.

It should be noted that this is NOT advised - Toyota recommends you fill the tank at least once every 6 months, and that if you go a long time without getting gas, you keep the tank as full as possible to reduce water accumulation.  But once I got to 3/4 of a tank and it was already May I wanted to see if I could make it with no gas for the year.

Also consider how car gasoline has a shelf life of only a few months. You need to top off the gas tank if only to flush out the stale gasoline.

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

Isn't using statistics and outside-developed information in a decision taking committee input?

Wendy P.

Scientific Socialism?

[JerryBaumchen 1,364]

8 hours ago, kallend said:

Funny how these conservatives are all against government regulation, UNTIL it comes to telling women what they may do with their own bodies.  Then they are all in favor of the government regulating that.

Hi John,

Once again:  It is all well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

Too many people are far too short-sighted.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,364]

12 hours ago, oldwomanc6 said:

In front of my vineyard, small though it may be.  

 I do like small ICE vehicles.   My truck is not visible.  

I don't have a problem with anyone wanting to drive whatever kind of vehicle they want.  

Hi Lisa,

Re:  I don't have a problem with anyone wanting to drive whatever kind of vehicle they want.  

I'm with you; as long as it is legal.  

When the 1961 Jaguar XKE came on the market, Tom McCahill wrote that it was a man's mink coat.

Tom McCahill - Wikipedia

Jaguar E-Type - Wikipedia

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,995]

2 hours ago, riggerrob said:

Also consider how car gasoline has a shelf life of only a few months. You need to top off the gas tank if only to flush out the stale gasoline.

Yes.  Like I said, NOT recommended - I just wanted to see if it was possible.  Will be filling on Jan 1st.

[winsor 236]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Lisa,

Re:  I don't have a problem with anyone wanting to drive whatever kind of vehicle they want.  

I'm with you; as long as it is legal.  

When the 1961 Jaguar XKE came on the market, Tom McCahill wrote that it was a man's mink coat.

Tom McCahill - Wikipedia

Jaguar E-Type - Wikipedia

Jerry Baumchen

My E-type was a '62.  It was great to drive, but a royal pain to keep it serviceable.

I never regretted selling the damned thing, and - though I liked my Mk IX - I have never been tempted to buy another Jaguar.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

12 hours ago, airdvr said:

...I'm not against an EV.  The network in suburbia Ohio isn't as robust as in the cities and I fear what will happen to Reddie Kilowatt if I plug in at home.  How does one figure costs for a home setup? 

 

It's just math. 

Any competent electrician can give you an estimate for an install. 

Costs can vary widely. Depends on what space you have in your box, if your current service has enough capacity, where your box is and where the car will charge.
Costs for the EVSE (charger cord) also vary. Decent ones are a few hundred. 

For the actual 'juice' costs, figure out how much you're going to drive it. How far do you commute to work? How many days per week? How often to you run to the store(s)? How far? 
Easiest way is to track the mileage you're driving your current car. How many miles per month?
Then find out how much power the car you're interested in uses. 
For example, my Bolt is rated to deliver 3.9 miles per kilowatt/hour (kWh). So if I drive 39 miles, I should use 10 kWh. Just like in an ICE vehicle, your mileage will vary.
But it's a good place to start.
Look at your electrical bill, see how much you're paying for electricity. National average is around $0.16/kWh. But it varies a LOT. Plus some places offer 'off peak' discounts. That means you set a timer (built into the car) so it charges in the middle of the night when demand is lowest.

Figure out miles driven, juice used and the cost for that juice. 

Myself, I usually drive between 500 and 600 miles per month. Because it's so cheap to operate, I found myself driving the Bolt more than I expected. It's cheaper to drive that than my motorcycle (~45mpg). 
My electrical bill went up $35-$40 per month. I have pretty cheap juice, I pay around $0.11 (eleven cents) per kWh.
WAAAAAAAY less than I was paying for gas, even in the summer when I would ride the motorcycle as much as practical.

[oldwomanc6 52]

7 hours ago, billvon said:

Yes.  Like I said, NOT recommended - I just wanted to see if it was possible.  Will be filling on Jan 1st.

 

7 hours ago, billvon said:

Yes.  Like I said, NOT recommended - I just wanted to see if it was possible.  Will be filling on Jan 1st.

STA-BIL  added for anything left sitting for more than 9 months.  

Also, ethanol free gas if possible when storing a vehicle.

Edited December 21, 2024 by oldwomanc6