wmw999 2,534 #26 December 20, 2024 4 hours ago, jakee said: So for clarity - whether or not immigrants follow the law is irrelevant? "It's the money, stupid." More money buys better justice and everything else. Turns out when you're rich, they really WILL let you grab them by the pussy -- it's just not their own pussy they'll let you grab. Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #27 December 20, 2024 14 hours ago, nigel99 said: Can you explain a bit more? It paved the way for massive spending and this shift towards an oligarchy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #28 December 20, 2024 22 hours ago, SkyDekker said: I have said it a few times, but I am firmly convinced that history will show the Citizens United decision, followed by speechnow.org v FEC and McCutcheon v FEC, as the beginning of the end for a democratic USA. 15 hours ago, nigel99 said: Can you explain a bit more? Basically it said that money is protected speech, and therefore the wealthy can spend unlimited money on elections. So we end up with Government of the people by the billionaires for the billionaires. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #29 December 20, 2024 14 hours ago, brenthutch said: One illegal billionaire does not put a stress on our country, eleven million indigents does. Losing one illegal billionaire would not stress our country. Losing eleven million farm laborers does. Back in the 1990's Georgia put some teeth in their anti-illegal-immigrant laws. Specifically they told farmers that THEY could be arrested if they hired illegals. Result - crops rotted in the field. Local food prices soared. Farmers lost billions in profits. Dozens of farms went bankrupt and were purchased by big farming conglomerates for pennies on the dollar. The only reason it didn't cause a nationwide catastrope is that other states stepped in and provided produce to the affected areas. And you want to do that to the whole country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #30 December 20, 2024 6 hours ago, wmw999 said: "It's the money, stupid." More money buys better justice and everything else. Turns out when you're rich, they really WILL let you grab them by the pussy -- it's just not their own pussy they'll let you grab. Wendy P. Yep. Turns out that government of the Elite, by the Elite, for the Elite was what Republicans wanted all along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites