Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

4 hours ago, billvon said:

Good news for republicans!

After Trump and Musk demanded that the bipartisan compromise be rejected, they then approved a slimmed-down plan that cut all funding for pediatric cancer research.  This is a win/win.  They will save a few tens of millions, and two year olds can learn responsibility and consequences by paying for their own cancer research!

Yeah, there were a couple other things in the original bill that got taken out.

One is something Elmo really wanted gone:

 

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the original agreement had an “outbound investment” provision that restricted the ability of Americans to invest in technology factories in China. Senators John Cornyn (R-TX) and Bob Casey (D-PA) had collaborated on the measure, hoping to keep cutting-edge technologies including artificial intelligence and quantum computing, as well as the jobs they would create, in America rather than let companies move them to China.

As Representative Jim McGovern (D-MA) explained, Musk is building big factories in China and wants to build an AI data center there, even though it could endanger U.S. security. McGovern charged that Musk’s complaints about the spending in the bill were cover for his determination to tank the provision that would limit his ability to move technology and business to China. And, he noted, it worked. The outbound investment provision was stripped out of the bill before it passed.

The other is a huge win for United Healthcare. You know, the company whose CEO was killed a couple weeks ago.

 

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Congress agreed to reform the system in which pharmacy benefit managers act as middlemen between pharmaceutical companies and insurers, employers, and government officials. The original bill increased transparency and provided that pharmacy benefit managers would be compensated with flat fees rather than compensation tied to the price of drugs. The measures related to pharmacy benefit managers were stripped out of the measure that passed.

That lost reform shows another line that will stretch into the future: Trump’s team is working for big business. As Kuttner puts it, Trump, who is allegedly a populist leader, tanked a bipartisan spending bill in order to shield the Chinese investments of the richest man in the world and to protect the profits of second-largest pharmacy benefit manager UnitedHealth Group, the corporation for which murdered executive Brian Thompson worked.

Trump is just a puppet for the people who paid for his win.
And it hasn't even really started yet.

Source for quotes: Heather Cox Richardson, Dec 21, 2024
https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxrichardson

[tkhayes 348]

The mere fact that Trump has to address the notion that Elon Musk has' taken the presidency' in his recent speech is a sign that people believe that, and a sign that Trump is a puppet to that guy.... although puppet is not actually a good term.   I think like everything, trump is 100% transactional, that Elon will placate and enrich trump and trump will let him do anything he wants BECAUSE Musk is placating and eneiching him, which pretty much means Musk is 'taking the presidency'. 

I mean after all, presidenting is hard and if someone else can do it and keep sucking trumps dick, then trump would be Ok with that.  He has someone else to blame for everything, while being cheered on by his base for not doing his job.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

14 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

Yeah, there were a couple other things in the original bill that got taken out.

One is something Elmo really wanted gone:

 

The other is a huge win for United Healthcare. You know, the company whose CEO was killed a couple weeks ago.

 

Trump is just a puppet for the people who paid for his win.
And it hasn't even really started yet.

Source for quotes: Heather Cox Richardson, Dec 21, 2024
https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxrichardson

This!!!!

everything is about ensuring the rich get richer.

[tkhayes 348]

1 hour ago, SkyDekker said:

This!!!!

everything is about ensuring the rich get richer.

French Revolution might happen here yet

[base698 14]

On 12/23/2024 at 11:31 AM, tkhayes said:

French Revolution might happen here yet

 

[porpoishead 8]

Yep!
 

way better than voting for some communist

[porpoishead 8]

On 12/20/2024 at 2:16 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi folks,

Let's see what the MAGA-idiots will say when the next disaster effects them:  States to lose out on billions if GOP spurns disaster aid in spending bill, Dems say • Oregon Capital Chronicle

Jerry Baumchen

MAGA idiot here now Jerry.

better stated maga idiot from New Orleans, tell me what you know about loss brother.

Please tell this maga idiot what I know about loss and what I had and lost and had again.

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by porpoishead

[porpoishead 8]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:39 AM, SkyDekker said:

This!!!!

everything is about ensuring the rich get richer.

Really?? What are you a broke dick Canuck?? I’m just saying

[porpoishead 8]

Anyway how the fuck you doing Justin you still crying about US politics hoss???

[porpoishead 8]

In the midst of your retarded thoughts did any of retarded fucks ever consider who the fuck the government would be???

[porpoishead 8]

Think about it

[jakee 1,489]

7 hours ago, porpoishead said:

In the midst of your retarded thoughts did any of retarded fucks ever consider who the fuck the government would be???

Well I kinda think that’s what the entire thread has been about, but maybe I’ve missed something. 

[kallend 2,026]

Seems like another MAGA idiot has turned up, incapable of stringing his thoughts together into a coherent post.

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

2 hours ago, kallend said:

Seems like another MAGA idiot has turned up, incapable of stringing his thoughts together into a coherent post.

Hi John,

IMO pretty typical.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,990]

4 hours ago, kallend said:

Seems like another MAGA idiot has turned up, incapable of stringing his thoughts together into a coherent post.

Add in a dozen Viagra ads an hour, and !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALLL CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ads for pot, and this place would look like rec.skydiving again.  We've come full circle.

[turtlespeed 220]

On 12/26/2024 at 9:20 PM, porpoishead said:

MAGA idiot here now Jerry.

better stated maga idiot from New Orleans, tell me what you know about loss brother.

Please tell this maga idiot what I know about loss and what I had and lost and had again.

 

I'd love to see the answer to this.  

@Jerry, what say you?  Are you going to answer?

[kallend 2,026]

Musk gets it right.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/27/politics/video/elon-musk-laura-loomer-foreign-workers-visa-digvid-src

[base698 14]

13 hours ago, kallend said:

Musk gets it right.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/27/politics/video/elon-musk-laura-loomer-foreign-workers-visa-digvid-src

Elon replied to this thread: https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1873175206073626660

 

The summary: there are about 10x the H1Bs as is supposed to be.  800kish vs 80k.  Mostly weighted in tech with second highest being accounting.  The average pay is relatively low for tech at $120k.  75% of which are less than 150k.

Reading through subreddits with a high concentration of new graduates they seem completely unable to find employment, even students from top schools with a 4.0.  In my circle most of the employees that were newer or without a solid background (good school with some experience) have been unable to find work after layoffs.  I do not believe we should be importing nearly a million people at below market rates into an environment which is challenging for our own graduates.

Elon replied to the above and added he was talking more about the higher skilled and stated the H1B needs actual standards and was aware of its abuse.  

Edited December 29, 2024 by base698

[billvon 2,990]

Musk: MAGA republicans are "contemptible fools."

This is getting fun.

[billvon 2,990]

6 hours ago, base698 said:

 . . . and stated the H1B needs actual standards and was aware of its abuse.  

How will people like Melania Trump or Elon Musk get in under actual standards or actual enforcement of those standards?

[JerryBaumchen 1,362]

Hi folks,

And, so it begins:  Since winning November’s election, Trump has indicated delivering on those promises may not be as simple as advertised.

In shift, Trump downgrades soaring rhetoric on campaign promises

Oh, well; it was good while it lasted.  

It will be interesting to watch how the Joe 6-Packs get nothing for supporting him.

Jerry Baumchen

[billvon 2,990]

9 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

It will be interesting to watch how the Joe 6-Packs get nothing for supporting him.

Ol' Joe will just blame Bill Clinton.

[wmw999 2,444]

42 minutes ago, billvon said:

Ol' Joe will just blame Bill Clinton.

Nope, it's Obummer's fault all the way. Apparently the worst president in history, according to my reliable MAGA sources. Top men, y'know

Wendy P.

[base698 14]

18 hours ago, billvon said:

How will people like Melania Trump or Elon Musk get in under actual standards or actual enforcement of those standards?

Do you expect Elon, who has created trillions in value for the US, including I assume hundreds of thousands/millions for you, wouldn't meet the standard?  

Do you also assume Melania would not meat the standard of being a rich guy's wife? 

Are these cases different than bringing cashiers making $45k over or an Indian developer working on an accounting database for $120k a year?

 

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

Do you expect Elon, who has created trillions in value for the US, including I assume hundreds of thousands/millions for you, wouldn't meet the standard? 

When he came to the US? No, obviously not. Why do you want to keep out such a valuable asset?

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Do you also assume Melania would not meat the standard of being a rich guy's wife?

When she came to the US? No, she didn't 'meat' the standard of being a rich guy's wife.

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Are these cases different than bringing cashiers making $45k over or an Indian developer working on an accounting database for $120k a year?

If we assume the cashier is going to marry a wealthy gangster at some point in the future or the developer is going to found a Furtune 500 company at some point in the future? No, they're no different.

Edited December 30, 2024 by jakee