Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump

[richravizza 28]

6 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

I've been around a little longer than you & could not agree more.

The real con is that so many GOP candidates [ think Reagan first ] campaigned on reducing the debt.

Let us not forget what P. T. Barnum told us, 'There is a sucker born every minute.'

Jerry Baumchen

 Sir,

The real con was not RR campaigning on reducing Debt, the con was he was simultaneously bankrupting the USSR.

What did America get for Biden$ trillions ? oh ya, union votes.  

Unknown; A fool and his money soon depart.  

Edited February 24 by richravizza

[richravizza 28]

Hey jerry

Is this thread just a bait, a facetious contradiction. LOL

First President to attend a Superbowl.First Pres.to take Big Bertha around the track for the opening of NASCAR's  Daytona 500 start with 101,000 in attendance.  

First person of color as FBI Director. From Secure borders to 80 EO you don't like a one? 

[BIGUN 1,338]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

  For example, Trump's firing of tens of thousands will cause unemployment to skyrocket and the economy to decline overall.  This will not be made up for with reduced taxation, since most of those will go to the rich - and tax cuts for the rich traditionally do not stimulate the economy.

Agreed. 100%

We are facing a recession.

Bulls in a china shop.

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

17 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Agreed. 100%

We are facing a recession.

Bulls in a china shop.

Hi Keith,

Reagan said a recession was when your neighbor lost his job; and, a depression was when you lost your job.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  In one of the many, many studies of combatants post-WW II, it was found that the first emotional reaction, when the guy next to you got killed, was happiness.

 

[jakee 1,528]

6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

If surplus is increased by raising taxes, the downturn in growth raises rather than reduces the debt-to-GDP ratio. Deficit reduction policies based on spending cuts have almost no effect on output, so they are a sure bet for a reduction in debt to GDP. 

Neither of these things are true. 

[jakee 1,528]

4 hours ago, richravizza said:

On the gender thing,porn and queer books and themes continue in our schools, and continues to be ignored.

Not ignored. Trump’s administration has personally intervened on behalf of Andrew Tate - a pimp and pornographer with a huge following among school age kids - to ask that Romanian authorities go easy on him while he faces charges of serial rape and human trafficking.

[JoeWeber 2,760]

8 minutes ago, jakee said:

Not ignored. Trump’s administration has personally intervened on behalf of Andrew Tate - a pimp and pornographer with a huge following among school age kids - to ask that Romanian authorities go easy on him while he faces charges of serial rape and human trafficking.

jakee, your skills and vast knowledge are wasted on him and only serve to make things less interesting to most here. Please let him go or block him. BillV, you too. 

[kallend 2,056]

10 hours ago, billvon said:

  Trump's firing of tens of thousands will cause unemployment to skyrocket and the economy to decline overall.  This will not be made up for with reduced taxation, since most of those will go to the rich - and tax cuts for the rich traditionally do not stimulate the economy.

But plenty of jobs will be available picking fruit and vegetables, mowing lawns, roofing. . . . . . once all the migrants have gone back to their shithole countries.

[BIGUN 1,338]

6 hours ago, jakee said:

Neither of these things are true. 

That was enlightening. 

[olofscience 485]

18 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

That was enlightening. 

In the UK the government applied austerity after the 2008 financial crisis, and the effects were brutal:

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It is now clear that by taking demand out of the economy, right at the moment when firms and individuals were also tightening their belts as a result of the 2007/8 economic crash, cuts in government spending have stifled economic growth. Recent estimates from the New Economics Foundation (NEF) - using numbers produced by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) – confirm this (Stirling, 2019). They find that the cumulative effect of austerity has been to shrink the economy by £100bn today compared to what it would have been without the cuts: that is worth around £3,600 per family in 2019/20 alone (ibid).

And not only the economic cost:

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And, then there is the staggering social cost of the cuts. Crime is up. Life expectancy has stopped rising but inequalities are growing again. Over a million people a year are now using foodbanks. Homelessness has more than doubled.

source: https://www.ippr.org/articles/austerity-there-is-an-alternative-and-the-uk-can-afford-to-deliver-it

The genius thing is, instead of blaming the issues on austerity or the banks who caused the financial crisis in 2008, the right wing in the UK successfully turned the blame around to immigrants, hence the Brexit vote.

Hey, why don't you ask us how's that going too?

Hint: they're still blaming the immigrants, even though brexit was supposed to solve everything. 

Edited February 24 by olofscience

[jakee 1,528]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

That was enlightening. 

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. And since you’ve now agreed with Bill that what you said was untrue, my comment was indeed more enlightening than yours.

[BIGUN 1,338]

3 hours ago, jakee said:

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. And since you’ve now agreed with Bill that what you said was untrue, my comment was indeed more enlightening than yours.

Back to your old tricks, huh. Take one thing out of a whole string of conversation and play the gotchya game. Back on block. 

[jakee 1,528]

38 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Back to your old tricks, huh. Take one thing out of a whole string of conversation and play the gotchya game. Back on block. 

You claimed that spending has no impact on the economy but taxes do. You have no evidence for this and you are plain wrong. We both know you are wrong, because you just agreed with Bill that Trump’s spending cuts will drive the US towards recession. 
 

Everything else you said in the post I was replying to relies on the assumption that what you said about taxes and spending is true. It’s not true, you know it’s not true, so nothing else you said needs a response.

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

Hi folks,

Now we are getting into some real numbers:  71 percent of voters who backed Trump said cutting Medicaid would be unacceptable

71 percent of Donald Trump voters oppose Medicaid cuts: Poll

You get what you voted for.

Jerry Baumchen

[gowlerk 2,216]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

You get what you voted for.

People in groups can act so stupid.

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

Hi folks,

Well, this is one way to deal with those not happy:  Oregon’s only Republican member of Congress, Rep. Cliff Bentz, stood before a town hall of more than 400 of his constituents in deeply red eastern Oregon and faced a barrage of jeers

Emotions are running high because cuts to federal employment, grants and social welfare programs threaten to run deep in rural Oregon.

some loyal Republicans living in Trump strongholds are feeling shell shocked.

‘If you just came here to yell, I can leave,’ Trump-supporting Oregon congressman tells crowd of angry rural voters

Cliff Bentz has a district that is heavily farm country.

There seems to be a lot of Buyer's Remorse these days.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  And, I continue to say:  It is well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

 

[kallend 2,056]

5 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

 

There seems to be a lot of Buyer's Remorse these days.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  And, I continue to say:  It is well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored.

 

You vote for someone thoroughly malevolent, WTF do you expect?

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

13 minutes ago, kallend said:

You vote for someone thoroughly malevolent, WTF do you expect?

Hi John,

Well, I damn sure did not vote for him.

Here is another group of unhappy Americans:  Pro-Ukraine protests across US after Trump-Zelensky clash

Reminds me of Nixon in South America:  Attack on Richard Nixon's motorcade - Wikipedia

I fully support civil unrest towards this administration.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

Hi folks,

Looks like the heat in the kitchen is getting to be too much:  Republicans are being encouraged to avoid in-person town halls

Republicans advised against in-person town halls amid protests

Gutless bastards.

Jerry Baumchen

[kallend 2,056]

I bet wealty tax dodgers are glad they voted for Trump:

"A shrinking I.R.S.: The Internal Revenue Service, which started the second Trump administration with roughly 100,000 employees, is preparing to halve its work force, according to four people familiar with the matter."