Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump

[jakee 1,553]

6 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Elon Musk posted that Sen. Kelly is a traitor.

Uh Huh. 

There's a political satirist here that has a theory - the turning point for Musk was the Thailand cave kids saga. Musk has always been unbelievably thin skinned and hates when it is publicly pointed out that he's not the smartest man in the room. 

Musk said on Twitter (while knowing less than zero about the situation) that he was going to task his engineers with making a submarine to rescue the kids. A Brit who was involved in the rescue politely pointed out that this couldn't possibly work since the cave was so narrow that divers had to take their air tanks off to get through the worst restrictions. So Musk said the guy must be a pedophile because he moved to Thailand. After suffering a tidal wave of online abuse the Brit sued Musk for libel, an absolute slam dunk you would think... and Musk won the case. At that moment he realised he really was rich and powerful enough that he could do and say whatever the fuck he wanted, regardless of any law, and get away with it.

That's the theory, anyway.

[nigel99 550]

5 minutes ago, jakee said:

There's a political satirist here that has a theory - the turning point for Musk was the Thailand cave kids saga. Musk has always been unbelievably thin skinned and hates when it is publicly pointed out that he's not the smartest man in the room. 

Musk said on Twitter (while knowing less than zero about the situation) that he was going to task his engineers with making a submarine to rescue the kids. A Brit who was involved in the rescue politely pointed out that this couldn't possibly work since the cave was so narrow that divers had to take their air tanks off to get through the worst restrictions. So Musk said the guy must be a pedophile because he moved to Thailand. After suffering a tidal wave of online abuse the Brit sued Musk for libel, an absolute slam dunk you would think... and Musk won the case. At that moment he realised he really was rich and powerful enough that he could do and say whatever the fuck he wanted, regardless of any law, and get away with it.

That's the theory, anyway.

Not being a Tesla/space x follower, the Thai incident is the first time I noticed Musk, I’ve never liked him. 

I won’t deny he is good at making money, but dunning-Kruger and life experience tells me that someone who claims to be genius level at every aspect of physics and engineering is full of BS. 

[thelivo 7]

25 minutes ago, jakee said:

Musk has always been unbelievably thin skinned and hates when it is publicly pointed out that he's not the smartest man in the room. 

Sounds like someone else. Birds of a feather and all that.

Made me think of this post:

[wmw999 2,507]

My son has hated him since the early 2000’s. Good taste, that kid

Wendy P. 

[dogyks 9]

5 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

My son has hated him since the early 2000’s. Good taste, that kid

Wendy P. 

I found his approach to the kids stuck in the cave in Thailand to be nauseating.  The people who pulled it off were terrific, and his response to having others deliver without his help was to call them "pedo." Quite the class act.

OTOH, I've seen him interviewed where his grasp of subjects with which I'm familiar was impressive.

One can have test scores as rare as a royal flush but still have significant gaps in their skill set.  If he was gifted to that level, I'd expect him to know that.

Having some familiarity with Argentina, it seems that a similar turnaround may be possible for the US.  Though the differences may well be overwhelming, having Musk in charge of the process may be about as good as we can do at the moment.

Musk and Trump are awful people to differing degrees (Trump turns it up to 11), but they may have some net benefit before we can get rid of them.

[BIGUN 1,368]

12 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

So when are you and your SOF buddies going to get hopping mad?

SOF != SF

SOF is cool, but SF is coolest. 

We're gosh darn hopping mad. 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

20 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

SOF != SF

SOF is cool, but SF is coolest. 

We're gosh darn hopping mad. 

Like to where you are ready to trade in your Teslas?

[BIGUN 1,368]

5 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Like to where you are ready to trade in your Teslas?

As in, I've been hearing some rumblings of him running for P and I could vote FOR him.  

[JoeWeber 2,790]

4 hours ago, BIGUN said:

As in, I've been hearing some rumblings of him running for P and I could vote FOR him.  

Super. Let me know when you are hearing rumblings about a million SF march on Washington in support of the Constitution.

[base698 20]

23 hours ago, jakee said:

There's a political satirist here that has a theory - the turning point for Musk was the Thailand cave kids saga. Musk has always been unbelievably thin skinned and hates when it is publicly pointed out that he's not the smartest man in the room. 

Musk said on Twitter (while knowing less than zero about the situation) that he was going to task his engineers with making a submarine to rescue the kids. A Brit who was involved in the rescue politely pointed out that this couldn't possibly work since the cave was so narrow that divers had to take their air tanks off to get through the worst restrictions. So Musk said the guy must be a pedophile because he moved to Thailand. After suffering a tidal wave of online abuse the Brit sued Musk for libel, an absolute slam dunk you would think... and Musk won the case. At that moment he realised he really was rich and powerful enough that he could do and say whatever the fuck he wanted, regardless of any law, and get away with it.

That's the theory, anyway.

It started before pedo incident.  He grew frustrated with growing negative press and started attacking the press himself which spiraled:

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/tesla-hit-lawsuit-called-hotbed-racist-behavior-n820651

https://www.inverse.com/article/31478-spacex-settles-underpaid-workers-lawsuit-for-4-million

[jakee 1,553]

27 minutes ago, base698 said:

It started before pedo incident.  He grew frustrated with growing negative press and started attacking the press himself which spiraled:

Yes, it must be so tiring when true things you did are accurately reported in the press. I can see why that would cause any normal person to go utterly batshit mental.

[kallend 2,094]

I've always been amazed at how readily evil, malevolant leaders have been able to find followers who are willing to implement their worst impulses.  It's not just in Marvel comics.

[dogyks 9]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

I've always been amazed at how readily evil, malevolant leaders have been able to find followers who are willing to implement their worst impulses.  It's not just in Marvel comics.

It's the flaw in the human condition that accounts for religion. Come up with a narrative that is verifiable nonsense and, when people buy into it, postulate a set of 'good' things that would otherwise seem 'evil' and you're all set.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

1 hour ago, dogyks said:

It's the flaw in the human condition that accounts for religion. Come up with a narrative that is verifiable nonsense and, when people buy into it, postulate a set of 'good' things that would otherwise seem 'evil' and you're all set.

And they'll readily toss alms onto the platter when passed. Knowing this no one ever need die poor.

[jakee 1,553]

9 hours ago, dogyks said:

It's the flaw in the human condition that accounts for religion. Come up with a narrative that is verifiable nonsense and, when people buy into it, postulate a set of 'good' things that would otherwise seem 'evil' and you're all set.

Yeah, just throw some bullshit about DEI and the debt at them and it’s amazing who’ll buy into it.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

8 hours ago, jakee said:

Yeah, just throw some bullshit about DEI and the debt at them and it’s amazing who’ll buy into it.

I think you just made his point.

[jakee 1,553]

4 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I think you just made his point.

The point that he's a willing follower of a malevolent leader just because he had some bullshit about DEI and the debt thrown at him? 

I dunno, that woud be a level of self awareness he's never come close to demonstrating before. What makes you think he's changed?

[JoeWeber 2,790]

28 minutes ago, jakee said:

The point that he's a willing follower of a malevolent leader just because he had some bullshit about DEI and the debt thrown at him? 

I dunno, that woud be a level of self awareness he's never come close to demonstrating before. What makes you think he's changed?

Got me, possibly I've just come to enjoy a few history lessons and German adverbial conjunctions with a point made. That, and I don't think he is simply a follower of a malevolent leader because he thinks woke is a joke, and a chunk of it is, or because when he does his sums he thinks dramatically increasing our national debt will surely kill us whereas it's just a probability with Trump.

[wmw999 2,507]

I think that last point is exactly it. The fact that it’s a man is just a lagniappe

Wendy P. 

[jakee 1,553]

3 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Got me, possibly I've just come to enjoy a few history lessons and German adverbial conjunctions with a point made. That, and I don't think he is simply a follower of a malevolent leader because he thinks woke is a joke, and a chunk of it is, or because when he does his sums he thinks dramatically increasing our national debt will surely kill us whereas it's just a probability with Trump.

Me neither - I'm pretty sure it's the overt racism that forms the main attraction.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

2 hours ago, jakee said:

Me neither - I'm pretty sure it's the overt racism that forms the main attraction.

I think the issue is less one of racism and more one of force fed dumbism. 

Edited March 17 by JoeWeber

[olofscience 489]

On 3/15/2025 at 11:50 PM, dogyks said:

Come up with a narrative that is verifiable nonsense and, when people buy into it, postulate a set of 'good' things that would otherwise seem 'evil' and you're all set.

And some more buy into it hesitantly, but justify their decision with mental backflips as "maybe at least they'll balance the budget" or "at least Elon has a chance of being competent" or "if they can't do anything we were fucked anyway".

 

[richravizza 28]

On 2/23/2025 at 7:02 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

 

Reagan said a recession was when your neighbor lost his job; and, a depression was when you lost your job.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  In one of the many, many studies of combatants post-WW II, it was found that the first emotional reaction, when the guy next to you got killed, was happiness.

 

Hi jerry

A quotation without marks or context,...a revisionist history sir, I simply can't let stand. 

He was not espousing the stance as a prelude to his economy.It was a description of the previous failed Cater admin, and what would happen if there was no change, in our Energy, Tax,Trade, defense or foreign policy. So Peanuts.

 I'm looking for that one thing that inspired this thread so we can agree on something.

Peace

[JoeWeber 2,790]

On 3/17/2025 at 12:19 AM, olofscience said:

And some more buy into it hesitantly, but justify their decision with mental backflips as "maybe at least they'll balance the budget" or "at least Elon has a chance of being competent" or "if they can't do anything we were fucked anyway".

 

While were on pause, just take a look at this brain dead cosplaying an ICE agent. I can only guess someone told her no horse this time. Only the best people.

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

Hi folks,

Looks to me like the GOP is afraid of most of us:   It plays right into Democrats’ hands; they want to talk about Social Security cuts, Medicare cuts, Medicaid cuts. We don’t.

Republicans want Elon Musk to shut up about Social Security

Well, come Nov 2026 we will see just what most Americans think of all of this.

Jerry Baumchen