Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump

[BIGUN 1,368]

54 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

It needs the democrats to grow some spine and leadership, and a few republicans to break rank and say enough is enough. 

It will be important during the midterms to ensure the house & senate do NOT get a 2/3rds of one side. 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Our constitution should remain intact. Just as I advocate no changes to the first ten amendments, so too, the 22nd amendment. There are plenty of dictatorial regimes under the guise of free elections. Feel free to choose one and head out. 

Should? Even the part that doesn't enshrine a right to vote?

[jakee 1,553]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Our constitution should remain intact. Just as I advocate no changes to the first ten amendments, so too, the 22nd amendment. There are plenty of dictatorial regimes under the guise of free elections. Feel free to choose one and head out. 

It's not as if the 'not joking' talk of a third term is new. He talked about it plenty during the campaign and oh yeah - he already genuinely tried to unlawfully seize power and end democracy in the USA. I guess every Trump voter should be looking for a new country.

[gowlerk 2,236]

29 minutes ago, jakee said:

It's not as if the 'not joking' talk of a third term is new.

He actually has good reason for this kind of talk even if he has no intention of going through with it. A second term POTUS becomes a lame duck after the mid-terms. One who can find a way to keep 'em guessing, less so.

[BIGUN 1,368]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Even the part that doesn't enshrine a right to vote?

The 26th Amendment - is the right to vote. Everyone over 18. Black, White, Green, Brown, Purple, DZO's even. 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

47 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

The 26th Amendment - is the right to vote. Everyone over 18. Black, White, Green, Brown, Purple, DZO's even. 

That's nice. So any anybody given the right by another document gets mopped in if they're 18 and some color. Please direct my attention to the part in the Constitution of the USA that explicitly does enshrine a right to vote. 

[normiss 835]

9 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

That's nice. So any anybody given the right by another document gets mopped in if they're 18 and some color. Please direct my attention to the part in the Constitution of the USA that explicitly does enshrine a right to vote. 

Prior to you moving the goal posts, he did just that.

[BIGUN 1,368]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Please direct my attention to the part in the Constitution of the USA that explicitly does enshrine a right to vote. 

I'm not sure what you're getting at Joe. The 27 amendments are part of the constitution. The 26th is the right to vote. 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

8 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

I'm not sure what you're getting at Joe. The 27 amendments are part of the constitution. The 26th is the right to vote. 

I'll hit my studies again, but like the 2nd Amendment, the right to vote seems a matter of court cases not explicit language like freedom of speech or religion for examples. So as long as precedents are respected things will seem as they do. That said, if it weren't a right by precedent and evolution then why would this bill have been introduced in 2021?

BILLS-117s2615is.pdf

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

15 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I'll hit my studies again, but like the 2nd Amendment, the right to vote seems a matter of court cases not explicit language like freedom of speech or religion for examples. So as long as precedents are respected things will seem as they do. That said, if it weren't a right by precedent and evolution then why would this bill have been introduced in 2021?

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Hi Joe,

Looks to me that if this were to go to the Supreme Court, Alito and his cronies would say that no one has the right to vote.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,790]

47 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Joe,

Looks to me that if this were to go to the Supreme Court, Alito and his cronies would say that no one has the right to vote.

Jerry Baumchen

Didn’t Trump tell his cult that they’d only need to vote one more time?

[BIGUN 1,368]

11 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

So as long as precedents are respected things will seem as they do. That said, if it weren't a right by precedent and evolution then why would this bill have been introduced in 2021?

Congressional Bills/Acts may add to the constitutuion, but may not take away. In this case, Senator Klobuchar - 

-The bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

-Next, the bill establishes Election Day as a federal holiday.

-The bill declares that the right of a U.S. citizen to vote in any election for federal office shall not be denied or abridged because that individual has been convicted of a criminal offense unless, at the time of the election, such individual is serving a felony sentence.

-The bill establishes certain federal criminal offenses related to voting. In particular, the bill establishes a new criminal offense for conduct (or attempted conduct) to corruptly hinder, interfere with, or prevent another person from registering to vote or helping someone register to vote.

-Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including by requiring states to conduct post-election audits for federal elections.

-The bill outlines criteria for congressional redistricting and generally prohibits mid-decade redistricting.

-The bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2747

I'm not seeing any big red flags here. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Congressional Bills/Acts may add to the constitutuion, but may not take away. In this case, Senator Klobuchar - 

-The bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

-Next, the bill establishes Election Day as a federal holiday.

-The bill declares that the right of a U.S. citizen to vote in any election for federal office shall not be denied or abridged because that individual has been convicted of a criminal offense unless, at the time of the election, such individual is serving a felony sentence.

-The bill establishes certain federal criminal offenses related to voting. In particular, the bill establishes a new criminal offense for conduct (or attempted conduct) to corruptly hinder, interfere with, or prevent another person from registering to vote or helping someone register to vote.

-Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including by requiring states to conduct post-election audits for federal elections.

-The bill outlines criteria for congressional redistricting and generally prohibits mid-decade redistricting.

-The bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/2747

I'm not seeing any big red flags here. 

Hi Keith,

You just might when Trump says it is BS & does not apply to him.

And then, the judges agree.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Remember that ox that I talk a lot about?

[BIGUN 1,368]

3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

You just might when Trump says it is BS & does not apply to him.

Well, it didn't pass, so there is that. 

[kallend 2,094]

Apparently Musk 2025 is not as popular as Trump 2024 in Wisconsin.  

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/wisconsin-votes-high-profile-judicial-race-after-millions-spent-by-musk-2025-04-01/

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

9 hours ago, kallend said:

Apparently Musk 2025 is not as popular as Trump 2024 in Wisconsin.  

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/wisconsin-votes-high-profile-judicial-race-after-millions-spent-by-musk-2025-04-01/

Hi John,

Guess that there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

As a guy that believes the glass is 1/2 full, this is great news.

Jerry Baumchen

 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

2 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

Guess that there is some light at the end of the tunnel.

As a guy that believes the glass is 1/2 full, this is great news.

Jerry Baumchen

 

Proving that physicists can be funny, CERN scientists have claimed discovery of quantum entanglement in sheep.

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

Hi folks,

And more:  Wisconsin and Florida elections are early warning signs to Trump - oregonlive.com

Try to stay positive until we get this country turned.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,415]

Hi folks,

Looks like Trump did not like the election results yesterday:  Elon Musk suggests he might soon exit Trump administration role, wind down DOGE - oregonlive.com

Jerry Baumchen

[BIGUN 1,368]

10 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said:

 Elon Musk suggests he might soon exit Trump administration role, wind down DOGE - oregonlive.com

Wonder if he'll have time to get to TSA. The most non-security security. 

[thelivo 7]

37 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

Wonder if he'll have time to get to TSA. The most non-security security. 

Nah they'll leave that alone because its quite a good one for detaining people (particularly brown people) for absolutely no reason.

[dogyks 9]

12 minutes ago, thelivo said:

Nah they'll leave that alone because its quite a good one for detaining people (particularly brown people) for absolutely no reason.

Why is some racism tolerated!

[thelivo 7]

4 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Why is some racism tolerated!

No idea why its tolerated in the government. You should ask trusk.

[jakee 1,553]

22 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Why is some racism tolerated!

Because you voted in explicitly racist people. Jesus man it ain’t rocket surgery, just cause and effect.

[wmw999 2,507]

38 minutes ago, dogyks said:

Why is some racism tolerated!

He’s referring to the fact that we mentioned brown people as a target. Innocent until proven guilty only applies to conservatives, because we know that deep down they mean well. But not liberals, obviously!

Wendy P.