jakebaustin 11 #1 Posted December 20, 2024 Looking for some history on this. Who made them, Who used them, and Why did they stop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,354 #2 December 21, 2024 2 hours ago, jakebaustin said: Looking for some history on this. Who made them, Who used them, and Why did they stop? Hi Jake, I 'think' I remember them as being something ParaFlite toyed with in the early '90's. IMO they were a solution looking for a problem that did not exist. This, of course, assumes you mean those for sport canopies. Jerry Baumchen 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TampaPete 48 #3 December 21, 2024 Sounds like a punk band 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #4 December 21, 2024 4 hours ago, jakebaustin said: Looking for some history on this. Who made them, Who used them, and Why did they stop? The Evolution used a 3-riser configuration. Pretty crappy canopy with close to zero flare. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakebaustin 11 #5 December 21, 2024 The reason i ask is because this is fairly new https://squirrel.ws/equipment/base-jumping/accessories/hayduke-6g-slider/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCS422 27 #6 December 21, 2024 I looked at those sometime ago when i was looking into doing some base work in Idaho and it seemed like a pretty good idea, keeps the steering lines separated and i wondered why it wasn't incorporated into skydiving canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 December 21, 2024 16 hours ago, TampaPete said: Sounds like a punk band Back when I lived in Nova Scotia (early 1980s) one of our junior jumpers formed a garage band called "RISER." They played covers to top-40 rock songs. I heard them play a couple of times in Halifax bars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 December 21, 2024 6-grommet sliders were (2000?) also factory-standard on a few tandem canopies (PD?). They helped reduce the numbers of tension knots on the bulky Dacron suspension lines of first and second generation tandem canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakebaustin 11 #9 December 22, 2024 14 hours ago, riggerrob said: 6-grommet sliders were (2000?) also factory-standard on a few tandem canopies (PD?). They helped reduce the numbers of tension knots on the bulky Dacron suspension lines of first and second generation tandem canopies. Do you know why we stopped using them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakebaustin 11 #10 December 22, 2024 On 12/20/2024 at 5:28 PM, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Jake, I 'think' I remember them as being something ParaFlite toyed with in the early '90's. IMO they were a solution looking for a problem that did not exist. This, of course, assumes you mean those for sport canopies. Jerry Baumchen I’m curious about their history of use on any canopies and why we stopped using them. Also curious if they offer any sort of advantage in the BASE environment where they are making a comeback. Well not necessarily a comeback because they weren’t used in BASE before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCS422 27 #11 December 22, 2024 rev.202205v3 www.squirrel.ws Slider Brake Installation SQRL sliders with removable slider brakes allow you the opportunity to quickly and easily configure your gear for different types of jumps. Here are a few key points for the installation of the slider brakes. The 4G & 6G SLIDERS have three configurations: 1. No Slider Brake (mesh only). Recommended for the lowest airspeed openings (subterminal delays and low airspeed wingsuit openings). 2. Small Slider Brake (38x38cm). Recommended for moderately high airspeed openings (airspeed-controlled wingsuit and tracking jumps). 3. Large Slider Brake (57x38cm). Recommended for the highest airspeed openings (terminal/slick/tracking jumps). It is critical that you understand when and when not to use a slider brake. There are many variables that control parachute opening speed. Jumper velocity and body configuration, pilot chute type, wingsuit or tracking suit type, line material (Spectra or Dacron), line condition (new or used), and atmospheric conditions will all affect the opening speed and the resulting force on you and your equipment. For instance, deploying your vented canopy from a steep terminal track with a 38” PC and the mesh-only slider would be a mistake, and the resulting hard opening could damage you or your equipment. Conversely, using the large slider brake with a 34” PC on a subterminal jump opening near terrain would also be a mistake. Pack and configure your equipment for each jump that you do. Due to the large amount of variables, particularly in jumper airspeed and body position, it is impossible to create a set of fixed guidelines for your equipment. You must choose the gear configuration based on progressive and conservative jumping with large safety margins. 1 2 3 Note that the slider brake is installed on the BOTTOM side of the slider. The side that faces DOWN, toward you, the jumper Pass the slider brake tab through the loop on the slider. Fold the tab back towards the slider brake, and pass the tab through the loop on the slider brake. Main Control Lines (Brake Lines) ONLY C/D Lines A/B Lines BOTTOM SURFACE 4G & 6G SLIDERS 4G Slider Installation • The Main Control Lines and the C/D Lines pass through the normal rear grommets. • The A/B Lines pass through the front grommets, as normal. 6G Slider Installation • Only the Main Control Lines (Brake Lines) pass through the rear-most inboard grommet on each side. • The C/D Lines pass through the normal rear grommets. • The A/B Lines pass through the front grommets, as nor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites