More mass carrings - Need more car laws

[lippy 918]

2 hours ago, normiss said:

Fuck religion and it's insanity.

I've seen what this make believe god "blesses" Fuck that.

I think you just crossed the line: no prayers for you!

***I like to think of the Soup Nazi saying that as he snatches a bible out of your hand. 

[turtlespeed 220]

2 hours ago, wmw999 said:

There are people who are severely reducing their plastic use. It's kind of like the fossil fuel industry (oh wait -- it IS the fossil fuel industry), where so much has been invested in making plastics really hard to get rid of in daily life that most people say fuck it. 

What have you done to reduce your plastic use? You can't eliminate it entirely with anything remotely resembling a normal lifestyle, but you can reduce it.

Wendy P.

I don't use styrofoam products if at all possible, but if you have to order (want to order) anything, your pretty much stick with whatever the manufacturer packages it in.  

I hate that grocery stores don't use biodegradable plastics.

I hate that the bags they use to tote your groceries around in are plastic.

HEB is a HUGE hypocrite in that.  You have to buy their thick plastic bags that are the equivalent of 20-30 of the thin plastic.

I usually bring a box or a few canvas bags when I grocery shop.

 

ETA - I've always taken for granted that bioplastics aren't harmful.  I need to look into that - they could even be worse!  I just don't know.

Edited December 30, 2024 by turtlespeed

[normiss 798]

3 minutes ago, lippy said:

I think you just crossed the line: no prayers for you!

***I like to think of the Soup Nazi saying that as he snatches a bible out of your hand. 

The only bible I ever had was one my religious nut bible thumping grandmother bought in Jerusalem, wooden engraved covers from someplace special over there.

While it meant something to me due to it coming from my grandmother - huge influence on me growing up, I passed it along to my grandson. He values it for pretty much the same reason, while the nonsense between the wooden covers remains unbelieved. I think he is significantly more interested in the Harley that's his in my will.

[wmw999 2,442]

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

I don't use styrofoam products if at all possible, but if you have to order (want to order) anything, your pretty much stick with whatever the manufacturer packages it in.  

I hate that grocery stores don't use biodegradable plastics.

I hate that the bags they use to tote your groceries around in are plastic.

HEB is a HUGE hypocrite in that.  You have to buy their thick plastic bags that are the equivalent of 20-30 of the thin plastic.

I usually bring a box or a few canvas bags when I grocery shop.

We no longer have the thin plastic bags available in most of the towns around here; the grocery we use does have both compostable plastic and paper bags, to go along with the salad greens in bulk. We buy our milk in glass bottles from a local dairy, and make our own yogurt. We can get laundry detergent by refilling our containers at the store  

No styrofoam in most of the local restaurants; and here it’s the local market that drives more sustainable choices. Two recycling centers in town, one of them is for profit even, which is cool (the other is the city)

#1 plastic is relatively well recycled; #2 less so but still possible. Most of the others are more wishcycling than recycling, so we really try not to get stuff in them at all. 

[turtlespeed 220]

10 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

We no longer have the thin plastic bags available in most of the towns around here; the grocery we use does have both compostable plastic and paper bags, to go along with the salad greens in bulk. We buy our milk in glass bottles from a local dairy, and make our own yogurt. We can get laundry detergent by refilling our containers at the store  

No styrofoam in most of the local restaurants; and here it’s the local market that drives more sustainable choices. Two recycling centers in town, one of them is for profit even, which is cool (the other is the city)

#1 plastic is relatively well recycled; #2 less so but still possible. Most of the others are more wishcycling than recycling, so we really try not to get stuff in them at all. 

Cool.

I was speaking to the meals ready to microwave - they sell the F out of them here.

Its incredibly convenient, while horribly plasticicised (sp?).

This isn't an affluent area of austin.

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by turtlespeed

[base698 14]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

Where does that leave the non-religious or athiest religion folks?  They just don't commit those crimes?

That would be the incel mentioned above.

To be more explicit evil exists and takes whatever form of the society around it religious or not.  Today it's columbine style school shooters before 1990s it was serial killers.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/what-explains-the-decline-of-serial-killers

Edited December 30, 2024 by base698

[turtlespeed 220]

47 minutes ago, base698 said:

That would be the incel mentioned above.

To be more explicit evil exists and takes whatever form of the society around it religious or not.  Today it's columbine style school shooters before 1990s it was serial killers.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/what-explains-the-decline-of-serial-killers

Serial killers are fewer, I hope, because of inter departmental communication and large data bases.  Something tells me that the murders still happen.  They just get caught earlier.

[billvon 2,990]

4 hours ago, base698 said:

To be more explicit evil exists and takes whatever form of the society around it religious or not.  Today it's columbine style school shooters before 1990s it was serial killers.

Ah yes, the "it's always been this way" argument.

Reality:

[base698 14]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Ah yes, the "it's always been this way" argument.

I'm not making an argument that it's always been this way just the form of a particular type of killer changes.  The subset of incel type killers in particular.

Edited December 30, 2024 by base698

[kallend 2,026]

8 minutes ago, base698 said:

I'm not making an argument that it's always been this way just the form of a particular type of killer changes.  The subset of incel type killers in particular.

Looks like the baby boomers coming of age and then growing old.

[PiLFy 3]

On 12/29/2024 at 8:23 PM, nigel99 said:

You’ve misunderstood me. I’m challenging your thought process. The vast majority of ‘experts’ on 5G health risks lack knowledge of basic science and statistics.

But, that doesn’t mean there aren’t potentially issues that need further research and our understanding is incomplete. 

I don’t believe there is some global conspiracy regarding EMF, I represented the UK on a few technical committees responsible for writing the technical standards on radio compliance legislation and there are no boogey men. That doesn’t mean that there are unintended consequences - remember how plastic was a saviour and now the problems are understood.

Hold the phone... 2G/3G/4G we're already known to cause health problems like DEATH. 5G is exponentially stronger, but "Expert" you wants to argue it's safe?? Your opinion is duly noted...

 

Tell you what. Since 5G is sooo "Safe n Effective". Why not allow a few 5G towers to be erected on your land,surrounding your house? Lotsa good money, n perfectly safe. Have fun w/that. 

5G is military-grade technology. No amount of BS will convince people otherwise. Citizens are taking those towers out for very good reasons. You're free to go live right under a 5G tower if you like. Get all your "Vaccines" while you're at it. 

[billvon 2,990]

25 minutes ago, PiLFy said:

Hold the phone... 2G/3G/4G we're already known to cause health problems like DEATH. 5G is exponentially stronger

5G NR is weaker and doesn't penetrate human tissues as well as 2G/2.5G, at least here in reality.

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Why not allow a few 5G towers to be erected on your land,surrounding your house?

Sure.  Heck, I'll even rent them space ON my property for, say, $1000 a month - as long as they disguise the tower well.  A bargain for them!

Of course, every time I go outside I will be in danger, threatened with cancer and eventually death.  But that threat comes from the biggest killer (in terms of radiation) that any of us are exposed to - the Sun.  It hits you with thousands of times the radiation that any cellphone tower will.  And unlike the nonionizing radiation that comes from cell towers, the Sun emits deadly cancer causing ultraviolet - ionizing radiation.

So if you clutch your pearls over that cellphone tower a quarter mile away, but think nothing of going outside during the day - your threat assessment is all f*cked up.

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5G is military-grade technology.

5G came from two companies - Qualcomm and Huawei.  It's no more "military grade" technology than a Cessna 182 is.  Which I'm sure you'd consider to be military grade - just like an F-18 - because they both fly.

[billvon 2,990]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:06 PM, PiLFy said:

He was a Commie, like Röhm. A direct threat to Hitler, he gotten taken out w/the rest of the SA leadership. 

So Strasser, the leader of the German Socialist party, was assassinated by Hitler - and you figure that makes Hitler a socialist.  

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North Korea is the last remaining Communist, authoritarian shit hole on the planet. Semantics won't save you, Billy.

Logic isn't your thing, is it.  You've decided that Hitler was a socialist because the party he hijacked had the word "socialist" in it, because you hate socialism.  But you've decided that North Korea is not a democracy, because you like democracy.  Having "feels" about a word is not really all that solid a basis for deciding what reality is.

[nigel99 471]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

5G NR is weaker and doesn't penetrate human tissues as well as 2G/2.5G, at least here in reality.

Sure.  Heck, I'll even rent them space ON my property for, say, $1000 a month - as long as they disguise the tower well.  A bargain for them!

Of course, every time I go outside I will be in danger, threatened with cancer and eventually death.  But that threat comes from the biggest killer (in terms of radiation) that any of us are exposed to - the Sun.  It hits you with thousands of times the radiation that any cellphone tower will.  And unlike the nonionizing radiation that comes from cell towers, the Sun emits deadly cancer causing ultraviolet - ionizing radiation.

So if you clutch your pearls over that cellphone tower a quarter mile away, but think nothing of going outside during the day - your threat assessment is all f*cked up.

5G came from two companies - Qualcomm and Huawei.  It's no more "military grade" technology than a Cessna 182 is.  Which I'm sure you'd consider to be military grade - just like an F-18 - because they both fly.

I’m not bothered by the towers. Uk had some interesting research into high voltage powerlines and they found that for some reason Radon gas accumulates at higher than normal densities under the lines. 

I’ve long since lost track of the research but there were some interesting findings that at certain frequencies at extremely low power levels the ion gates in cells are influenced and normal cell functions are impacted. That’s not to say they found a direct negative health effect. 

The old TDMA systems were interesting, there were times I could audibly hear the TDMA pulses (not from radio interference). Could be dodgy old fillings. 

[normiss 798]

10 hours ago, billvon said:

5G NR is weaker and doesn't penetrate human tissues as well as 2G/2.5G, at least here in reality.

Sure.  Heck, I'll even rent them space ON my property for, say, $1000 a month - as long as they disguise the tower well.  A bargain for them!

Of course, every time I go outside I will be in danger, threatened with cancer and eventually death.  But that threat comes from the biggest killer (in terms of radiation) that any of us are exposed to - the Sun.  It hits you with thousands of times the radiation that any cellphone tower will.  And unlike the nonionizing radiation that comes from cell towers, the Sun emits deadly cancer causing ultraviolet - ionizing radiation.

So if you clutch your pearls over that cellphone tower a quarter mile away, but think nothing of going outside during the day - your threat assessment is all f*cked up.

5G came from two companies - Qualcomm and Huawei.  It's no more "military grade" technology than a Cessna 182 is.  Which I'm sure you'd consider to be military grade - just like an F-18 - because they both fly.

Disguise it like they do in the south, make it a Jebus cross!