Unleashing the Kraken

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, brenthutch said:

It says more about you guys than it does about me.

I think it says a lot about the former site owner. The Mods are just trying to conform to the rules they were handed, seems to me. I'm guessing Wendy writes what she's thinking. On the other hand I suspect Bill is often thinking "You fucking moron" when he's typing 'I suspect there is a chance you're mistaken".

[wmw999 2,439]

29 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I think it says a lot about the former site owner. The Mods are just trying to conform to the rules they were handed, seems to me. I'm guessing Wendy writes what she's thinking. On the other hand I suspect Bill is often thinking "You fucking moron" when he's typing 'I suspect there is a chance you're mistaken".

Generally when I’m thinking something that would get me a warning, I just don’t write it.

Wendy P. 

[kallend 2,026]

I liked this place better before all the trolls returned.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, wmw999 said:

Generally when I’m thinking something that would get me a warning, I just don’t write it.

Wendy P. 

Then how will you ever learn where the line actually lays? The whole point of getting in trouble is to avoid getting in worse trouble later.

[wmw999 2,439]

4 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

Then how will you ever learn where the line actually lays? The whole point of getting in trouble is to avoid getting in worse trouble later.

Dude — I AM the line. I’m like the concrete rebound hammer of SC

Wendy P. 

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10 minutes ago, kallend said:

I liked this place better before all the trolls returned.

That’s what keeps me up at night. Wondering how we all might make your life more enjoyable.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

4 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

The surprise for me is I was certain I had the winning hand with 4 of a kind and I'm surrounded by straight flushes. Good luck with your new gig and thank you for elevating the game here. Have great holidays.

Same to you Joe, hope you get to enjoy that boat of yours for many more years to come.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, wmw999 said:

Dude — I AM the line. I’m like the concrete rebound hammer of SC

Wendy P. 

We minions will adjust and adapt, I'm sure. It's you Mod's I worry about. Maybe you could get a dog to train. Should be a no brainer after this.

[brenthutch 441]

3 hours ago, kallend said:

I liked this place better before all the trolls returned.

Of course you did, and by trolls you meant anyone who didn’t adhere to your narrow, misguided and fragile world view…I understand why you are breaking out your crying towel with CO2 setting records highs (without global catastrophe) Coal usage setting record levels, EV adoption <10%, renewables being rejected, Trump re-elected, Rs taking the Senate, Rs keeping the House, Sonia Sotomayer to be replaced with another Trump appointee, loosing ground with minority voters, the rejection of “woke” and the impending dismantlement of the deep state by Musk and company; yes I get it why the blue haired commie diaper babies are crying (even more than usual)

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45 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

Of course you did, and by trolls you meant anyone who didn’t adhere to your narrow, misguided and fragile world view…I understand why you are breaking out your crying towel with CO2 setting records highs (without global catastrophe) Coal usage setting record levels, EV adoption <10%, renewables being rejected, Trump re-elected, Rs taking the Senate, Rs keeping the House, Sonia Sotomayer to be replaced with another Trump appointee, loosing ground with minority voters, the rejection of “woke” and the impending dismantlement of the deep state by Musk and company; yes I get it why the blue haired commie diaper babies are crying (even more than usual)

Actually there are people who have different views to the majority and are not trolls. They are sincere in their beliefs and disagree strongly while still being able to hold a rational conversation and make a point (people like Bigun etc).

The childish trolling adds no value and is frankly not entertaining after you’ve left kindergarten. 

[brenthutch 441]

15 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Actually there are people who have different views to the majority and are not trolls. They are sincere in their beliefs and disagree strongly while still being able to hold a rational conversation and make a point (people like Bigun etc).

The childish trolling adds no value and is frankly not entertaining after you’ve left kindergarten. 

There is not one point I have made that is not actual reality. If that offends you I’m sorry.

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13 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

There is not one point I have made that is not actual reality. If that offends you I’m sorry.

I’m not offended, I’ve got great respect for the people who have stood by their convictions- even if I vehemently disagree (Ron is probably the person I disagree with the most). 

My recollection of interactions with you is that you won’t stand by your arguments or answer direct questions, it makes it difficult to take your arguments seriously. Admittedly I don’t keep track and personally won’t keep hammering away to get someone to follow through so that may be an unfair portrayal.

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Just now, nigel99 said:

Admittedly I don’t keep track and personally won’t keep hammering away to get someone to follow

Nor should you. We have Jakee for that and for my money he's worth every cent we've paid. The man is good at what he does, no error.

[nigel99 466]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

Nor should you. We have Jakee for that and for my money he's worth every cent we've paid. The man is good at what he does, no error.

Yup, jakees spirit animal is a British bulldog

[billvon 2,989]

5 hours ago, brenthutch said:

 EV adoption <10%,

Just to point out a single lie in your long list of them - 

In 2023 EV sales made up 16% of worldwide car sales.  So far in 2024 it's looking like it will be over 20%.  Perhaps FOX News left that part out.

But hey, as long as you can rile someone up, who cares if what you post is true, eh?

[kallend 2,026]

11 hours ago, jaybird18c said:

That’s what keeps me up at night. Wondering how we all might make your life more enjoyable.

A clear admission that you are a troll.

[brenthutch 441]

5 hours ago, billvon said:

Just to point out a single lie in your long list of them - 

In 2023 EV sales made up 16% of worldwide car sales.  So far in 2024 it's looking like it will be over 20%.  Perhaps FOX News left that part out.

But hey, as long as you can rile someone up, who cares if what you post is true, eh?

I was referring to US car sales

“In the U.S., battery electric vehicles currently account for nearly 10% of all new car sales”

 

Edited December 24, 2024 by brenthutch

[SkyDekker 1,465]

11 hours ago, brenthutch said:

There is not one point I have made that is not actual reality. If that offends you I’m sorry.

Who are the "deep state" and why would Musk dismantle them?

And is dismantling the deep state the same as ensuring the funding bill that got passed didn't have a provisions that hurt him financially?

Edited December 24, 2024 by SkyDekker

[winsor 236]

We have a penchant for confusing problems with symptoms.

I suspect that the suppression of progressive sources and accepting the toxicity of the remainder would have been pretty much the same.

The killfile function has been a godsend, so skipping over routinely toxic posters, other than moderators, is no longer necessary.  Unfortunately, that has resulted in largely empty threads.

Thus, the demise of this website has been inexorable and its end will be mercifully swift.  I come here in the same sense that I visit terminal patients in hospitals or hospices, where there is no expectation of a miraculous recovery.

The people I killfiled weren't always those with whom I disagree.  Sometimes people can make a case where the presentation itself is nauseating, like hearing a bad cover to a wonderful song.

Anyhow,  it's been real.

[brenthutch 441]

3 hours ago, SkyDekker said:

Who are the "deep state" and why would Musk dismantle them?

And is dismantling the deep state the same as ensuring the funding bill that got passed didn't have a provisions that hurt him financially?

The deep state to which I refer are the thousands of career bureaucrats running agencies that grow unabated with little to no accountability to the electorate. If Musk fired 80% of Twitter employees and didn’t kill the company the Washington bureaucrats could do with a 50% haircut and the country would be just fine.

[billvon 2,989]

6 hours ago, brenthutch said:

I was referring to US car sales

“In the U.S., battery electric vehicles currently account for nearly 10% of all new car sales”

 

Of course you were.  But since we all share the same atmosphere, that 20% is what matters - even if the US is technologically backward.

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19 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

The deep state to which I refer are the thousands of career bureaucrats running agencies that grow unabated with little to no accountability to the electorate.

I LOVE the idea that the "department of governmental efficiency" is going to add to those thousands.

"But sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet" or something to that effect, right?

[kallend 2,026]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

I LOVE the idea that the "department of governmental efficiency" is going to add to those thousands.

"But sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet" or something to that effect, right?

Reagan campaigned on reducing the debt.  In his 8 years he tripled it.

[brenthutch 441]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

Of course you were.  But since we all share the same atmosphere, that 20% is what matters - even if the US is technologically backward.

So doesn’t that also apply to global coal consumption? After all those EVs in China are largely powered by coal fired power plants, canceling out any efforts to reduce emissions from the West.

[brenthutch 441]

4 hours ago, billvon said:

I LOVE the idea that the "department of governmental efficiency" is going to add to those thousands.

"But sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet" or something to that effect, right?

DOGE is or will be a NGO.