Trump threatens President of Panama over Canal

[JoeWeber 2,720]

Yep, Trump want's the Canal back and the President of Panama asserted that every square meter the Canal was Panamanian and would remain so. Trump went to the number one vehicle for US diplomacy, Truth Social, and replied "We'll see about that". I don't know, could be worse, we beat Grenada so we should be able to beat Panama.

[wmw999 2,442]

I’ve been to the museum in Panama City. The Panamanian one. It’s not a pretty story how we lived there  

Wendy P. 

[JoeWeber 2,720]

19 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

I’ve been to the museum in Panama City. The Panamanian one. It’s not a pretty story how we lived there  

Wendy P. 

I have as well. Also took my boat through the Canal. Quite the experience. 

[tkhayes 348]

2 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Yep, Trump want's the Canal back and the President of Panama asserted that every square meter the Canal was Panamanian and would remain so. Trump went to the number one vehicle for US diplomacy, Truth Social, and replied "We'll see about that". I don't know, could be worse, we beat Grenada so we should be able to beat Panama.

He’s not even the fucking President yet but we already have the daily dumpster fire

america deserves everything they get. Fuck this place. 

[nigel99 471]

3 hours ago, tkhayes said:

He’s not even the fucking President yet but we already have the daily dumpster fire

america deserves everything they get. Fuck this place. 

It’s a zoo. Crazy to watch 

[Phil1111 1,149]

8 hours ago, nigel99 said:

It’s a zoo. Crazy to watch 

[turtlespeed 220]

On 12/22/2024 at 8:46 PM, tkhayes said:

He’s not even the fucking President yet but we already have the daily dumpster fire

america deserves everything they get. Fuck this place. 

Yes.  Fuck this place - Why are you still here?

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

And now Trumpty Dumpty wants Greenland.

Again.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-greenland-norway-panama-canal-canada-a52858e3075f9b5ad95e78753293fc1f

[gowlerk 2,190]

2 minutes ago, wolfriverjoe said:

And now Trumpty Dumpty wants Greenland.

Again.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-greenland-norway-panama-canal-canada-a52858e3075f9b5ad95e78753293fc1f

He is a troll. Just like others here except a much larger platform.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Just now, gowlerk said:

He is a troll. Just like others here except a much larger platform.

That's something the article mentions.

It's a standard tactic of his.

By asking for something REALLY ridiculous, later asking for something that's only mildly ridiculous seems more rational.

[winsor 236]

1 hour ago, wolfriverjoe said:

That's something the article mentions.

It's a standard tactic of his.

By asking for something REALLY ridiculous, later asking for something that's only mildly ridiculous seems more rational.

I suspected at the outset that nominating Gaetz served the purpose of removing him from the equation.  If that was the goal, it worked brilliantly.

So long as Gaetz was in Congress he could do a lot of damage.  Now he simply isn't a factor.

[nigel99 471]

11 hours ago, gowlerk said:

He is a troll. Just like others here except a much larger platform.

Or he’s trying to copy Putin 

[nigel99 471]

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-panama-canal-threats-hotel-taxes-court-filing-2005079

I hadn’t realised the real reason Trump has escalated with Panama is that they have seized his property for tax fraud. 

Seems he doesn’t like an independent judiciary and the rule of law.

[wmw999 2,442]

Damn. Just damn.

Wendy P.

[Phil1111 1,149]

51 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Damn. Just damn.

Wendy P.

Yeah, just 31 days and he will have the power to send in the marines. in other news "The Danish government has announced a huge boost in defence spending for Greenland, hours after US President-elect Donald Trump repeated his desire to purchase the Arctic territory.

Danish Defence Minister Troels Lund Poulsen said the package was a "double digit billion amount" in krone, or at least $1.5bn"

American hegemony becomes dominant again.

Edited December 25, 2024 by Phil1111

[brenthutch 444]

On 12/22/2024 at 7:36 PM, JoeWeber said:

Yep, Trump want's the Canal back and the President of Panama asserted that every square meter the Canal was Panamanian and would remain so. Trump went to the number one vehicle for US diplomacy, Truth Social, and replied "We'll see about that". I don't know, could be worse, we beat Grenada so we should be able to beat Panama.

We already beat them in ‘89 Operation Just Cause 

[jakee 1,489]

46 minutes ago, brenthutch said:

We already beat them in ‘89 Operation Just Cause 

Of course, nothing in the last quarter century has happened to illustrate that there might just be a difference between an invasion and an occupation. 

[BIGUN 1,305]

On 12/24/2024 at 7:48 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

By asking for something REALLY ridiculous, later asking for something that's only mildly ridiculous seems more rational.

Door in the face technique. Common persuasion/sales strategy. i.e., car lots.

[nigel99 471]

10 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Door in the face technique. Common persuasion/sales strategy. i.e., car lots.

What surprises me is that there hasn’t been much coverage of how Trump’s hotel was taken by the courts due to tax fraud.

The timing of Trump’s statements seems to be more about personal grievances at being held accountable than any altruistic concern for Americans

[turtlespeed 220]

On 12/24/2024 at 7:48 AM, wolfriverjoe said:

That's something the article mentions.

It's a standard tactic of his.

By asking for something REALLY ridiculous, later asking for something that's only mildly ridiculous seems more rational.

I wonder who that sounds like:

in 1970 we were going to run out of oil in 50 years

in 1980 - They said NYC would be under water by 1990

In 1990 - They said Miami would be under water by 2000

In 2000 - they said the world would be unihabitable by 2010

. . . . see a pattern here?

[jakee 1,489]

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

in 1980 - They said NYC would be under water by 1990

Who did?

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

In 1990 - They said Miami would be under water by 2000

Who did?

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

In 2000 - they said the world would be unihabitable by 2010

Who did?

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

. . . . see a pattern here?

100% yes.

[turtlespeed 220]

On 12/28/2024 at 2:49 PM, jakee said:

Who did?

Who did?

Who did?

100% yes.

https://www.agweb.com/opinion/doomsday-addiction-celebrating-50-years-failed-climate-predictions.  

The point is that the predictions are designed to scare and fearmonger and raise funds.

Here is another example.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-spectacularly-wrong-predictions-were-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year/

Edited December 30, 2024 by turtlespeed

[jakee 1,489]

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

The point is that the predictions are designed to scare and fearmonger and raise funds.

Yes, your use of exclusively fake 'predictions' is indeed a good example of scaremongering. 

[turtlespeed 220]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

Yes, your use of exclusively fake 'predictions' is indeed a good example of scaremongering. 

Glad to see you keeping up.

 

Finally.

Hey, are you going to respond to any of the 18 predictions in the link that I did your homework to find?

Edited December 30, 2024 by turtlespeed

[jakee 1,489]

4 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Glad to see you keeping up.

 

Finally.

I can assure you that I’m well aware that you’ve been talking out of your ass this whole time. If you’ve only just realised that I can see you’re a congenital liar and charlatan then I apologise for not having been clearer.

7 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

Hey, are you going to respond to any of the 18 predictions in the link that I did your homework to find?

My homework? Why on earth would you have thought I was looking for them? Are any of them as bad as the ones you just made up because they sound scary?