Shock and Awe on day one

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The White House removed the Spanish language version on the Whitehouse website and initially the link for page not found had a button that said “Go Home” , although that has since been changed.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-spanish-language-website-62224890c5b05c8ce0878358ba4a5266

A friend of mine works for the CDC and has been posting a lot about the sustained and aggressive attack on the CDC and science community, undoing decades of progress. 

At face value itself seems that Trump 2.0 has learned a valuable lesson from their first term. Go hard and fast and take as much ground as possible, don’t negotiate. Then even if you lose some ground, you’ve moved the line. Seems like Trump and Co have been getting private tuition lessons from Putin.

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1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

So it would appear that, "President Trump’s sweeping agenda took its first hit Thursday, when a federal judge put a temporary hold on his birthright citizenship executive order."

Perhaps if there were an AG, they would have explianed it to him.

Hi Kieth,

IMO it would have to be an independently-minded AG; not Ms. Bondi.

Jerry Baumchen

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32 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

Absolutely not. But a few things I have learned over the years.

You can’t trust what the media/politicians say that the intelligence services said. Every time I’ve read the actual report that gets made available it’s been spun heavily (WMD in Iraq report by Dr David Kelly in the Uk). Also, Colin Powell/George Bush with WMD.

The intelligence community is largely non partisan, but can have a well meaning but distorted and overly patriotic view of the world. 

All countries interfere or at least attempt to in other countries affairs. It’s for the good of the people when US/UK interfere in Russia or Iraq but bad when they do it to us. 

The vast majority of politicians are self serving and corrupt to some extent, very few are actually ‘public servants’. 

Many politicians families financially benefit from their family connections, it may be legal but questionable morally. 

When Trumps lips move he’s lying. Secondly, Trump is vindictive and motivated by hatred and self serving agenda and there is no morality or concern for ‘the people’ in any of his actions.

Hi Nigel,

I have to agree.

With both houses of the legislature, he could do some really good things.  But, IMO it is going to be a wasted 4 yrs.

Maybe the 3rd-4th yrs will be the interesting ones if he loses the House & Senate at the mid-terms.

That would be some fireworks to watch.

Jerry Baumchen

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2 hours ago, nigel99 said:

We both agree the political system is broken (here in Australia). His view is that to enact change we must all vote for the extreme far right to break the stranglehold of the two main parties and that the extreme right ‘will never win’. 

Brother, I'm not sure this would bode well. One oopsie and you're in deep shit.  I would be more inclined to have a no vote party.  Everyone just stay home on election day.  Unfortuately, people have agendas and too often it's not for the greater good.   

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1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

IMO it would have to be an independently-minded AG; not Ms. Bondi.

See was a good prosecutor. After that, Peter Principle. 

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6 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Brother, I'm not sure this would bode well. One oopsie and you're in deep shit.  I would be more inclined to have a no vote party.  Everyone just stay home on election day.  Unfortuately, people have agendas and too often it's not for the greater good.   

Completely agree with you on the danger, and don’t agree with him.

By the way, you have to vote in Australia or you get fined. Initially I hated the concept, but it does mean that voter turnout out is very high.

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3 hours ago, nigel99 said:

By the way, you have to vote in Australia or you get fined.

Wow. Freedom of speech and expression is the freedom not to.