BIGUN 1,324 #101 Monday at 05:55 PM 1 hour ago, JoeWeber said: read Christian It's any religion (well, except Buddhism), Remember Iran in 1979. Western influence. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 806 #102 Monday at 07:20 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, BIGUN said: It's any religion (well, except Buddhism), Remember Iran in 1979. Western influence. While I understand the intentions of the western influence, there are places on the planet that will never accept another religion or a government to replace their preferred flavor. I think most religious followers/believers are rather obsessed with their choice. Maybe the US needs to try other methods of reaching better, more cooperative results of nation building than simply trying to replace them. The US is by no means THE single success and shining beacon of greatness some want to believe it is. Yes, we want better international relations (with most nations), no we do not need to "convert" a nation for them to not want to kill us. The previous efforts seem to have created the opposite results. We could start by teaching actual history again. Including the bits you don't like. *** The situation with Iran had a LOT to do with my decision to join. Weird that I even wrote a paper on it in high school. One of the best grades I received on reports. (I tended not to complete homework or book reports - not on my time!) Edited Monday at 07:22 PM by normiss on second thought..... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,736 #103 Monday at 07:22 PM 1 hour ago, BIGUN said: It's any religion (well, except Buddhism), Remember Iran in 1979. Western influence. Now that we can agree on. And that is why we were dumb to fight a ground war with divisions of soldiers when airpower and small groups of dudes like you were the best solution to what was even marginally solvable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,736 #104 Monday at 07:27 PM 3 minutes ago, normiss said: While I understand the intentions of the western influence, there are places on the planet that will never accept another religion or a government to replace their preferred flavor. I think most religious followers/believers are rather obsessed with their choice. Maybe the US needs to try other methods of reaching better, more cooperative results of nation building than simply trying to replace them. The US is by no means THE single success and shining beacon of greatness some want to believe it is. Yes, we want better international relations (with most nations), no we do not need to "convert" a nation for them to not want to kill us. The previous efforts seem to have created the opposite results. We could start by teaching actual history again. Including the bits you don't like. That is the word. USAID, the Peace Corps, and privately funded NGO's (the ones not secreting bibles under the floor boards) and similar organizations are how to win hearts and minds. Of course, the small scale brutal slaying of local assholes who disagree with the approach is always desirable just to keep the peace. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,324 #105 Monday at 08:10 PM 47 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: small groups of dudes like you were the best solution to what was even marginally solvable. You don't get it. 43 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Of course, the small scale brutal slaying of local assholes who disagree with the approach is always desirable just to keep the peace. Now, you get it. *Just fuckin with you, Joe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,324 #106 Monday at 08:23 PM 56 minutes ago, normiss said: The US is by no means THE single success and shining beacon of greatness some want to believe it is. 56 minutes ago, normiss said: We could start by teaching actual history again. Brother. It's kinda hard for me to see these two statements in the same missive. The US Constitution was instrumental in Latin America, Africa, Phillipines, etc. etc. Well, except Britain - they still have a monarchy and fuck the Manchester Foot Ball team. . https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2021/09/17/global-influence-of-the-u-s-constitution/ Ya know, I think this is the most you've written on here in years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,736 #107 Monday at 08:32 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Brother. It's kinda hard for me to see these two statements in the same missive. The US Constitution was instrumental in Latin America, Africa, Phillipines, etc. etc. Well, except Britain - they still have a monarchy and fuck the Manchester Foot Ball team. . https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2021/09/17/global-influence-of-the-u-s-constitution/ Ya know, I think this is the most you've written on here in years. Absolutely. That said they likely would have looked elsewhere for inspiration had they known George Washington wore yoga pants. Talk about woke! Edited Monday at 08:33 PM by JoeWeber 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,736 #108 Monday at 08:55 PM 42 minutes ago, BIGUN said: You don't get it. Now, you get it. *Just fuckin with you, Joe. Speaking of pacifism, I forgot to tell you I discovered the firing pin mechanism on my BRNO grenade launcher actually works. It turns out that when you break it open to load you need to hang it just so and the pin falls into firing position. The things you don't learn in school, right? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 501 #109 22 hours ago https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-5353 Canadian’s you can do your part to try and get Elon’s citizenship revoked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
