Canadians are slightly annoyed

[nigel99 559]

  On 2/10/2025 at 8:31 PM, gowlerk said:

He says he wants Canada for our resources. We have no real problem with selling resources to the US. Exporting resources starting with beaver pelts has always been a huge part of our economy. The original free trade agreement was all about ensuring access to our oil reserves from the American point of view. The US is naturally the best and easiest place for us to market our abundant supplies of certain natural resources and we are happy to do business with our neighbours. 

What we don't want is medical bankruptcies and regular school shootings. Or a dominant Christian right wing limiting our freedoms. So no thanks to any sort of union. And also, this talk about a 51st state? Ten provinces and 3 territories would never consent to having their power limited to that of one state. It would take a determined military invasion to accomplish that. The US might win if it had to. But it would have to face a conflict that would make the Russia versus Ukraine battle look mild. And you would have to know that we would be sure to take the fight deep into their territory. Something they have not had to face for a very long time.

You mean as the 51st state you want more than 1 electoral vote? Jeez, Canadians are a needy bunch 

[gowlerk 2,246]

  On 2/10/2025 at 10:04 PM, nigel99 said:

You mean as the 51st state you want more than 1 electoral vote? Jeez, Canadians are a needy bunch 

We sure as hell won't put up with the bullshit that California does having the same two Senators as Rhode Island, or the God forsaken Alabama.

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/10/2025 at 8:31 PM, gowlerk said:

What we don't want is medical bankruptcies and regular school shootings. Or a dominant Christian right wing limiting our freedoms. So no thanks to any sort of union. And also, this talk about a 51st state? Ten provinces and 3 territories would never consent to having their power limited to that of one state. It would take a determined military invasion to accomplish that. The US might win if it had to. But it would have to face a conflict that would make the Russia versus Ukraine battle look mild. And you would have to know that we would be sure to take the fight deep into their territory.

"Again, he's not at all serious.  He just wants to distract from the rest of the stuff he's doing." ~BillVon

[gowlerk 2,246]

  On 2/10/2025 at 11:18 PM, BIGUN said:

"Again, he's not at all serious.  He just wants to distract from the rest of the stuff he's doing." ~BillVon

Yes Keith, but he is the POTUS so it matters.

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/10/2025 at 11:19 PM, gowlerk said:

Yes Keith, but he is the POTUS so it matters.

Pick what's important, Ken. If you're so hair-on-fire this early in the game; you're gonna need an emotional support puppy sooner than later. 

Edited February 11 by BIGUN

[gowlerk 2,246]

  On 2/10/2025 at 11:22 PM, BIGUN said:

Pick what's important, Ken. If you're so hair-on-fire this early in the game; you're gonna need an emotional support puppy sooner than later. 

Keith, you have no idea the level of anger that is present in Canada right now. My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard. Your orange hero has done the impossible. United Canada.

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:10 AM, gowlerk said:

Keith, you have no idea the level of anger that is present in Canada right now. My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard. Your orange hero has done the impossible. United Canada.

But are you mad enough to bang your cow bells?

[nigel99 559]

  On 2/10/2025 at 11:22 PM, BIGUN said:

Pick what's important, Ken. If you're so hair-on-fire this early in the game; you're gonna need an emotional support puppy sooner than later. 

If he gets a puppy Kristi Noem will shoot it :)

[nigel99 559]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:10 AM, gowlerk said:

Keith, you have no idea the level of anger that is present in Canada right now. My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard. Your orange hero has done the impossible. United Canada.

You know that America is fucked when the President threatening the sovereignty of another nation isn’t important and is treated with the same respect as a Borat movie.

The Onion is no longer funny as they can’t come up with outlandish enough headlines. The Dictator movie is now a documentary of the US. Possibly one of the most powerful members of the current US Government literally drew inspiration from the movie the dictator and brags about it https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-design-sacha-baron-cohen

[JerryBaumchen 1,426]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:10 AM, gowlerk said:

Keith, you have no idea the level of anger that is present in Canada right now. My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard. Your orange hero has done the impossible. United Canada.

Hi Ken,

Re:  My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard.

About 25 yrs ago, I was visiting a friend in Alberta.  He was telling me about how they were convinced that, eventually, the US would invade Canada to get to the oil shale resources.

This is not new to me.

Jerry Baumchen

[gowlerk 2,246]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:31 AM, nigel99 said:

You know that America is fucked when the President threatening the sovereignty of another nation isn’t important and is treated with the same respect as a Borat movie.

Exactly. Americans just don't seem to get it. They have become immune.

[gowlerk 2,246]

  On 2/11/2025 at 1:03 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

He was telling me about how they were convinced that, eventually, the US would invade Canada to get to the oil shale resources.

America doesn't really need to do that. I mean sure, if they had to they would. But it's so much easier just to buy it like from any other country. It's just a commodity and we are a western capitalist nation. 

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:10 AM, gowlerk said:

Keith, you have no idea the level of anger that is present in Canada right now. My feelings are mild compared to those I have heard. Your orange hero has done the impossible. United Canada.

Look, Ken, don't be blaming Keith: he's only got one vote not to give.

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/11/2025 at 12:10 AM, gowlerk said:

evel of anger that is present in Canada right now.

You sure it's not over the new capital gains tax? C'mon, Ken. It's just political noise. Nobody's gonna take Canada. 

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 4:33 AM, BIGUN said:

You sure it's not over the new capital gains tax? C'mon, Ken. It's just political noise. Nobody's gonna take Canada. 

And close to 90 million American Patriots like you didn't vote for any presidential candidate in the last election and who, like it or not, now own their fair share of what you calmly refer to as political noise. Expect a crap load of that sentiment here, and likely anywhere else you are outside of your safe zone, for a long time to come. FYI, by dismissing our weak sister worries you sounded just like Brent in that post.

[jakee 1,558]

  On 2/10/2025 at 11:22 PM, BIGUN said:

Pick what's important, Ken. If you're so hair-on-fire this early in the game; you're gonna need an emotional support puppy sooner than later. 

Thing is dude, you said that about people who thought Trump's idea was the permanent relocation of Palestinians out of Gaza. And he has since made it explicitly, undeniably clear that he really does want to ethnically cleanse Gaza by permanently relocating all the Palestinians.

So it's kinda rich for you to imply that other people are being naive when you're going out of your way to not understand what's actually going on.

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:50 AM, JoeWeber said:

And close to 90 million American Patriots like you didn't vote for any presidential candidate in the last election

There were two losers to chose from and 90 milion of us chose not to choose either, whereas you apparently chose to vote for the biggest loser. 

 

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:50 AM, JoeWeber said:

Expect a crap load of that sentiment here, and likely anywhere else you are outside of your safe zone, for a long time to come.

Nope.

 

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:50 AM, JoeWeber said:

FYI, by dismissing our weak sister worries you sounded just like Brent in that post.

You need not speak for Gowlerk; he's perfectly capable of scratching my eyes out on his own. 

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 10:22 AM, BIGUN said:

There were two losers to chose from and 90 milion of us chose not to choose either, whereas you apparently chose to vote for the biggest loser. 

 

Nope.

 

You need not speak for Gowlerk; he's perfectly capable of scratching my eyes out on his own. 

Lame in spades. You had your shot at being a conservative voice of reason before you pretty pretend voted in your mind. I did vote for my nations next leader and now have the earned voice to talk about it good or bad. You are just another one of the 90+ million who should be as silent as your non vote deserves while the rest of us who actually gave a shit work the problem. 

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/11/2025 at 10:50 AM, JoeWeber said:

I did vote for my nations next leader

EDIT: Joe, I'm more than happy to discuss the issues with you. Let's stick to those. 

Edited February 11 by BIGUN

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 11:11 AM, BIGUN said:

EDIT: Joe, I'm more than happy to discuss the issues with you. Let's stick to those. 

Sure, but know that as a non-voter for President this time around, because it all didn't fit nicely into whatever pre-conceived happy place plan that suited you on game day, your views on the current situation with our Nation and our President are substantially less valid to me than someone, anyone in fact, who voted for Trump. At least they weren't being conscientious objectors. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,426]

  On 2/11/2025 at 5:28 PM, JoeWeber said:

Sure, but know that as a non-voter for President this time around, because it all didn't fit nicely into whatever pre-conceived happy place plan that suited you on game day, your views on the current situation with our Nation and our President are substantially less valid to me than someone, anyone in fact, who voted for Trump. At least they weren't being conscientious objectors. 

Hi Joe,

I'm with you.  Just not in that verbiage.

IMO anyone who did not vote should not discuss the results.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Those not eligible to vote to be excluded; i.e., our friends to the north.

Edited February 11 by JerryBaumchen

[BIGUN 1,399]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:27 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

IMO anyone who did not vote should not discuss the results.

Again, I voted independent. 

[JoeWeber 2,810]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:29 PM, BIGUN said:

Again, I voted independent. 

Good luck on getting a pass with that. This will go down as the most consequential, and likely the most harmful to our nation, election in our lifetimes and possibly beyond. Reality: if you didn't vote for Harris or Trump you didn't vote. Bottom line: democracy isn't for voyeurs. I mean seriously, as a thinking person how can you justify abrogating such an important duty when the impact of the past election was so clear? Are you truly at peace with your example? Can you imagine standing in front of a 10th grade class and explaining to them why sitting out important elections is the right and responsible thing to do on occasion? 

[JerryBaumchen 1,426]

  On 2/11/2025 at 6:29 PM, BIGUN said:

Again, I voted independent. 

Hi Keith,

Thanks for clearing that up.

While I might not use Joe Weber's verbiage, I do believe that any vote for other than Harris was a vote for Trump.  Not directly, but indirectly.

We will just have to ride out Trump 2.0.

Jerry Baumchen

[JerryBaumchen 1,426]

  On 2/3/2025 at 2:44 AM, gowlerk said:

Well.....maybe more than slightly. As the dotard spits on the agreement he made a few years ago (and declared the most beautiful trade deal ever) my fellow countrymen are losing it completely. I have never seen this level of anger toward our neighbour before. Booing The Star Spangled Banner is a little over the top, but it is happening at sports events all over the nation. What can I say? Sorry, we don't actually hate all y'all, but could you do something about the madman and his bullshit please.

Hi Ken,

Just came across this:  Canada vows swift retaliation to 'unjustified' Trump tariffs

IMO Canada should just stop all imports of anything with a Trump tariff.  Then, let's see who squeals the loudest.

One of your PM's, Doug Ford said that he would cut the electrical power to a number of states in the US upper mid-west.  Doing that at this time of yr will get your attention.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  Forgot to add:  Asked in recent days about the threat of retaliation from his trade partners, Trump said: "I don't mind."

Well, it is not his pipes that will freeze.

Edited February 11 by JerryBaumchen