billvon 3,058 #76 February 16 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: I thought Atlas Shrugged was a good book, and from memory it was about the rich plundering society? Yep. And that was presented as a very good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #77 February 16 35 minutes ago, billvon said: Yep. And that was presented as a very good thing. I wouldn’t mind re reading it as from memory (about 25 years ago), I largely agreed with the books premise when I read it. I don’t have the time or the eyesight to reread it though. My copy has the tiniest font, and is still thicker than the bible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #78 February 16 On 2/4/2025 at 2:00 PM, gowlerk said: Amnesty USA is sounding a clear alarm about this disturbing trend. https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/president-trumps-first-week-begins-with-rollout-of-white-supremacist-policies-and-pardons/ So, a racist screed is okay so long as it's "good racism?" Got it. I hate to break it to Amnesty, but focusing on race is racist while refusing to consider it is anything but. Deal with it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,557 #79 February 16 6 minutes ago, dogyks said: So, a racist screed is okay so long as it's "good racism?" Got it. What racist screed? 6 minutes ago, dogyks said: I hate to break it to Amnesty, but focusing on race is racist while refusing to consider it is anything but. “Competent white men must be in charge” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #80 February 16 19 hours ago, nigel99 said: I wouldn’t mind re reading it as from memory (about 25 years ago), I largely agreed with the books premise when I read it. If you were in your early 20s that's almost a requirement. "Wow objectivism makes so much sense! Why hasn't everyone read this? " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #81 February 16 (edited) On 2/15/2025 at 5:12 AM, base698 said: Manufacturing Consent Media Control And more! Nice, I agree in people's need to learn How to read the news better. How about this headline: "{insert narrative} Economic Uncertainty." See It's ez,generates clicks fear and.... "Uncertainty" LOL The recent Munk Debates are becoming classics and responsible for the largest recorded shifts in opinion. "Be it resolved" starts at 7:20 for those with the interest On 2/15/2025 at 10:40 AM, base698 said: Biden literally advocated and tried for mandates at OSHA covering all companies. What is this fucking gaslighting? It was struck down by the supreme court, but before that happened it was a full court press about firing the unvaccinated and removing them from public life. This ain't gaslighting thought criminal ! You have failed an essential PPT, party purity test. You have been convicted. Testing C-19 positive in 2020, C-16 positive 2023, and are hereby deemed a deplorable "Anti-Vax'r .... a danger to family and society.Your social credit score is hereby in "critical reduction" as is your position in the Party.Your "Honesty" in this matter is also a serious breach and shall be reviewed for further convictions. Signed the whole hole. Bravo Sir, you Passed the 13 questions of hazing, as such, you have been deemed An Individual with Independence,so congrats.LOL Joking aside, your experiences resemble a fascism,and Those Days are Done! I wish the best for you and yours... Dr.J and RFK coming your way! BillV and I were once on the essay "Live not by Lies" unfortunately the conversation never got to its relevance today.I as far as I could tell you had checked off almost every box in the "non-participation" categories. “We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn 22 hours ago, nigel99 said: I thought Atlas Shrugged was a good book, and from memory it was about the rich plundering society? I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. Edited February 16 by richravizza Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #82 February 16 1 hour ago, billvon said: If you were in your early 20s that's almost a requirement. "Wow objectivism makes so much sense! Why hasn't everyone read this? " But we know so much when we are in our 20’s! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #83 February 16 I thought this image was striking. Maybe Brent would be interested in buying Bill’s Tesla now :) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #84 February 17 (edited) 25 minutes ago, nigel99 said: I thought this image was striking. Maybe Brent would be interested in buying Bill’s Tesla now :) You should invite him here. You know your slogrum; Diversity sake, Bill's equity, Brents inclusion,our belonging. Edited February 17 by richravizza unme Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #85 February 17 2 minutes ago, richravizza said: You should invite him here. You know your slogrum, Diversity sake, Bill's equity and Brents inclusion. I welcome different opinions and have no issues discussing them. I can’t stand outright trolling with no content though. The point of diversity is to bring alternative views to the table. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #86 February 17 On 2/14/2025 at 9:34 AM, billvon said: That's the goal of all good white supremacists. Ban the discussion of racism. If no one can call you a racist, you can be as white-supremacist as you want and not feel bad about it! Get rid of all the black people and women in government by calling them DEI. Ban talking about past racism by banning CRT. Trump's State Department has come right out and said this. "Competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work." But you better not call him racist because rich will be MAD! Your projections are becoming Boring over the years as I see you suffer with the syndrome.Your reality is like a nightmare woke in a fevered dream between a conscious and delirious state. It's not real but you'll have to be awake, to realize it. I'm not MAD,I think the kid said a stupid thing,Just like your paragraph above.Perhaps we can ruin his life,censor, Dox and destroy him in left wing authoritarian fashion.TRIBUNAL TIME I approve of part of his tweet,with a simple edit,his point would've been better received. Nobody getting rid of all Blacks and Women,But if you were hired to further the D.I.E. Hypocrisy, "live by the sword, you may d-i-e by it" Imagine the student debt institution put on impressionable minds.I've got some advice,go back to your church and ask a refund for Instructing Animosity: How DEI pedagogy produces the hostility attribution bias. You should read this again. https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/Instructing-Animosity_11.13.24.pdf CRT.. in theory it's Pulitzer baby,in practice " a hot steaming pile...LOL In other news your prophet, my nemesis IXK grift continues, like a parasite Boston ran dry,so he fell off and found a new host. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,058 #87 February 17 2 minutes ago, richravizza said: Your reality is like a nightmare woke in a fevered dream between a conscious and delirious state. It's not real but you'll have to be awake, to realize it. . . .Perhaps we can ruin his life,censor, Dox and destroy him in left wing authoritarian fashion.TRIBUNAL TIME if you were hired to further the D.I.E. Hypocrisy, "live by the sword, you may d-i-e by it" . . .go back to your church and ask a refund for Instructing Animosity: How DEI pedagogy produces the hostility attribution bias. . . a hot steaming pile...LOL Wow, you're really getting triggered by the ugly intrusion of reality into your rants! Thoughts and prayers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #88 February 17 2 hours ago, nigel99 said: I welcome different opinions and have no issues discussing them. I can’t stand outright trolling with no content though. The point of diversity is to bring alternative views to the table. Alternative views are always welcome, Base's Lived experiences were quite real, raw and refreshing.To the contrary Bad Ideas, Broken and Bankrupt, steaming hot piles of BS shall be called out, for what it is. Do You really want alternative views? It's usually a binary with most..., bad racism bad, good racism good,black and white and leaves very little color for nuance in the complex intricacies of our individual lives. Trolling "racist screed" on the other hand is always a blast. Are you a fan of the twilight zone, Bill and a couple Joes should like this episode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #89 February 17 1 hour ago, richravizza said: Alternative views are always welcome, Base's Lived experiences were quite real, raw and refreshing.To the contrary Bad Ideas, Broken and Bankrupt, steaming hot piles of BS shall be called out, for what it is. Do You really want alternative views? It's usually a binary with most..., bad racism bad, good racism good,black and white and leaves very little color for nuance in the complex intricacies of our individual lives. Trolling "racist screed" on the other hand is always a blast. Are you a fan of the twilight zone, Bill and a couple Joes should like this episode. There’s no such thing as good racism. However, it’s a false equivalence to say that calling people out for statements such as “only white men are competent”, or executive orders that prioritise migrants based on race (and not only that but from Elon’a home country). An example of alternative views is Bigun’s perspective on voting independent. I tend to agree with his perspective, against the vast majority of other posters here. Thankfully we seem to have lost the trolls. Admittedly I often struggle to see what you’re trying to say and am also not going to sit and watch YouTube videos to get “facts”. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,557 #90 February 17 5 hours ago, richravizza said: I'm not MAD,I think the kid said a stupid thing,Just like your paragraph above.Perhaps we can ruin his life,censor, Dox and destroy him in left wing authoritarian fashion.TRIBUNAL TIME Kid? The dude said it last year. He's what, 50? You think he's still just figuring out his place in the world? 5 hours ago, richravizza said: I approve of part of his tweet,with a simple edit,his point would've been better received. And yet it wasn't edited and the point is as written. You can say the above about damn near anything. Try "The park is beautiful, and with black men hanging from the tree branches it would be even better". I approve of part of that statement, and with a simple edit it would be better received. 5 hours ago, richravizza said: Nobody getting rid of all Blacks and Women,But if you were hired to further the D.I.E. Hypocrisy, "live by the sword, you may d-i-e by it" How would you know if someone was hired for DEI? Your cohorts assume everyone not white or male was hired for DEI. Meanwhile utterly unqualified white men like Pete Hegseth, who epitomises the characteristics you ascribe to DEI hires, passes without a single comment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,422 #91 February 17 14 hours ago, nigel99 said: There’s no such thing as good racism. However, it’s a false equivalence to say that calling people out for statements such as “only white men are competent”, or executive orders that prioritise migrants based on race (and not only that but from Elon’a home country). An example of alternative views is Bigun’s perspective on voting independent. I tend to agree with his perspective, against the vast majority of other posters here. Thankfully we seem to have lost the trolls. Admittedly I often struggle to see what you’re trying to say and am also not going to sit and watch YouTube videos to get “facts”. Hi Nigel, I'm with you, a total waste of time. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,810 #92 February 17 15 hours ago, nigel99 said: An example of alternative views is Bigun’s perspective on voting independent. I tend to agree with his perspective, against the vast majority of other posters here. In your country a minority party can win seats and possibly more. Here, not so much. Here it's more like the leaving the bay leaf out of the spaghetti sauce as an experiment, as if the end result wasn't already widely known. Whatever my voter registration records state I am an independent voter, absolutely. In truth, most Americans haven't a clue what being a Republican means now or meant before this new conservative label which they also have know clue what it actually means. Democrats somewhat the same but less so, I'd say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,422 #93 February 17 13 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: In your country a minority party can win seats and possibly more. Here, not so much. Here it's more like the leaving the bay leaf out of the spaghetti sauce as an experiment, as if the end result wasn't already widely known. Whatever my voter registration records state I am an independent voter, absolutely. In truth, most Americans haven't a clue what being a Republican means now or meant before this new conservative label which they also have know clue what it actually means. Democrats somewhat the same but less so, I'd say. Hi Joe, And, most Americans just do not care until it effects them personally. * It is all well and good until it is your ox that is getting gored. Jerry Baumchen * Rather like many of the Jews in Germany during the 30's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #94 February 17 33 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Here, not so much. Here it's more like the leaving the bay leaf out of the spaghetti sauce as an experiment, See. You talk about religion and then you're the first to point out sin. Mortal sin is the poor choice in wine. 35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Republican means now or meant before this new conservative label which they also have know clue what it actually means. Democrats somewhat the same but less so, I'd say. No. You! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #95 February 18 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: In your country a minority party can win seats and possibly more. Here, not so much. Here it's more like the leaving the bay leaf out of the spaghetti sauce as an experiment, as if the end result wasn't already widely known. Whatever my voter registration records state I am an independent voter, absolutely. In truth, most Americans haven't a clue what being a Republican means now or meant before this new conservative label which they also have know clue what it actually means. Democrats somewhat the same but less so, I'd say. I understand that it’s different. We have got a 2 major parties that power swaps between. Polling is showing for the first time that over a third of voters are planning to vote for minor parties. If the 3rd of voters who had stayed home followed Biguns lead it “might” make a difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,810 #96 February 18 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: I understand that it’s different. We have got a 2 major parties that power swaps between. Polling is showing for the first time that over a third of voters are planning to vote for minor parties. If the 3rd of voters who had stayed home followed Biguns lead it “might” make a difference. Hope in one hand and crap in the other and it was a slam dunk which would fill first in our last election. Maybe in some future where we actually had a smart 1/3 of the electorate such a tactic might make a difference but now wasn't it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,395 #97 February 18 6 hours ago, JoeWeber said: Maybe in some future where we actually had a smart 1/3 of the electorate such a tactic might make a difference but now wasn't it. Auuugh You think I'm smart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #98 February 20 On 2/16/2025 at 8:28 PM, nigel99 said: There’s no such thing as good racism. However, it’s a false equivalence to say that calling people out for statements such as “only white men are competent”, or executive orders that prioritise migrants based on race (and not only that but from Elon’a home country). An example of alternative views is Bigun’s perspective on voting independent. I tend to agree with his perspective, against the vast majority of other posters here. Thankfully we seem to have lost the trolls. Admittedly I often struggle to see what you’re trying to say and am also not going to sit and watch YouTube videos to get “facts”. Oh nigel,jakee, there is a Big gap in our communication. My Bad. Our misunderstandings were caused by my reactions in the story of the "boy who cried wolf".I was basing My opinion on the other wolf named Elez and the opinion of the VP. Vice President J.D. Vance on Friday said he disagrees with Elez's posts but that "stupid social media activity" should not "ruin a kid's life," he wrote on X. "So I say bring him back," which President Trump said he would support. Referring to "prioritizing White South Africans" as racist seems to leave no room for error or other possibilities.. Please realize there is a political party that advocates for killing whites some farmers, the farms that have been repatriated are bankrupt, produce nearly nothing,contribute to underemployment, all while running on subsidies. It's a mess, just like our social security system,but Elon bad. You do yourself a big misfavor ignoring my eclectic Videos. In ten min you can become more... informed on the subject that was at hand, CRT. Besides, I can't possibly transcribe all the nuanced points of conversation in 10 minutes.So too bad, You missed Johns punchline. I like to See and Hear the Truth, Spoken. I'm also quite a fan of theirs. Unfortunately and Similarly lacking a simple search of Atlas and we would have elevated the conversation.But of course there would be no racism and no likes . So a simple push back to those likes, and I raise you. Why are you afraid of a video of two black men, is it their opinion on CRT, or that they're Academic black men? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,557 #99 February 20 4 hours ago, richravizza said: Referring to "prioritizing White South Africans" as racist seems to leave no room for error or other possibilities.. Please realize there is a political party that advocates for killing whites So? There are all sorts of political parties around the world who advocate for killing all sorts of ethnic groups. The only one that Donald Trump thinks needs access to asylum in the US are white South Africans. On average the wealthiest and most privileged demographic in their own country. If we called it DEI as applied to immigration what would you think then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 559 #100 February 21 (edited) On 2/18/2025 at 6:45 PM, BIGUN said: Auuugh You think I'm smart. I’m interested in your views on this? I don’t remember your thoughts on Musk doing it, and know you’re cautious about getting caught up in mass hysteria regarding the broader topic of a white power agenda. I know stills can be misleading so here’s a snippet to it in context. It’s hesitant and not as bold as Musk. More like a naughty boy trying to thumb his nose at a parent. https://imgur.com/a/former-white-house-chief-strategist-steve-bannon-sig-heils-cpac-today-FIuEqCr Edited February 21 by nigel99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites