jakee 1,563 #26 February 7 8 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: IMO Trump is just throwing food against the wall. He is all about headlines & attention. He seems to want to sign more Exec Orders every day just to stay in the news. Thing is it's not just that. While this is just wild pie in the sky nonsense, he is also very definitely in the process of stealing the entire apparatus of the federal government out from underneath you. Incredibly consequential things are actually happening. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #27 February 7 31 minutes ago, JerryBaumchen said: IMO Trump is just throwing food against the wall. He is all about headlines & attention. He seems to want to sign more Exec Orders every day just to stay in the news. Well, to steal a quote from a comedian, he's like a horse in a hospital. Sure, it was a huge mistake to put him there, and no one knows what he's going to do. Heck, HE doesn't even know what he's going to do. And it's so absurd sometimes you have to laugh. But he can still break things. There are a lot of things in a hospital (and a democracy) to break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #28 February 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, jakee said: It'd be a bit sooner than that, Mar-a-Gazo needs people to work in housekeeping. Migrant status though, so they don't get any ideas. They would just bring in poor east asia people like the Saudi's do. Far less troublesome and more controllable. Edited February 7 by gowlerk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,409 #29 February 7 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: There is no chance that Palestinians would be allowed to return to their homeland. Here is what they would return to: https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/gaza-destruction Who would rebuild it? As to the Palestinians: Follow the Oslo Accords. 2 hours ago, gowlerk said: So cut out the bullshit. Totally unnecessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #30 February 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Here is what they would return to: https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/gaza-destruction Who would rebuild it? As to the Palestinians: Follow the Oslo Accords. Totally unnecessary. Well....I'd like to think it is unnecessary. But seriously I can not understand your thinking. I know you aren't stupid, but the things you are saying about this issue make it appear as though you are. I'm having a hard time reconciling these two things. One way to do so is to think that you are.....bullshitting. You may as well ask Israel to follow the UN rulings and the original territorial agreements from 1948. Edited February 7 by gowlerk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,409 #31 February 7 13 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Well....I'd like to think it is unnecessary. But seriously I can not understand your thinking. I know you aren't stupid, but the things you are saying about this issue make it appear as though you are. I'm having a hard time reconciling these two things. One way to do so is to think that you are.....bullshitting. OK. so you and I are done on this subject. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #32 February 7 2 minutes ago, BIGUN said: OK. so you and I are done on this subject. The conflict between those two parties is so intractable that leaving it alone is probably the only thing to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #33 February 8 22 hours ago, gowlerk said: Here is a more clear story on what was said versus what was posted on Truth, which was a slight walk back. None of it really matters except to outrage people as The Dotard loves to do. None of it can or will happen. It is just more blathering shoot from the hip bullshit. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9xgj2429o Of course, Trump will redevelop it and they are welcome to return provided they can pay exorbitant rents or buy property at inflated prices. There are legal ways of preventing undesirables from poisoning the land. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #34 February 8 47 minutes ago, nigel99 said: Of course, Trump will redevelop it and they are welcome to return provided they can pay exorbitant rents or buy property at inflated prices. Or just do what Trump did. Anyone can fill out an application for rent. If the agent notices they are Arab he writes "A" on the corner of the form. Just for audit purposes of course. Then when they are reviewed, the reviewer rejects any that have an "A" on them, because he's been told that means "abandoned application." That way 1) no pesky Arabs get their mitts on Gaza (you see what happened last time!) and 2) no one can claim anyone was racist. Win/win, at least for non-Arabs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #35 February 8 16 hours ago, gowlerk said: The conflict between those two parties is so intractable that leaving it alone is probably the only thing to do. After reflection I think that the new plan hatched by Trump and Netanyahu to remove the two million Palestinians can become a reality. All it really needs is a Great Name. I think it could be branded as "The Final Solution". 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #36 February 9 On 2/8/2025 at 6:05 AM, gowlerk said: After reflection I think that the new plan hatched by Trump and Netanyahu to remove the two million Palestinians can become a reality. All it really needs is a Great Name. I think it could be branded as "The Final Solution". Irony, both marked by the killing of Jews. I think all of Trumps bluster is that the surrounding arab countries don't want the refugees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #37 February 10 2 hours ago, richravizza said: Irony, both marked by the killing of Jews. I think all of Trumps bluster is that the surrounding arab countries don't want the refugees. Quite a funny contradiction there isn’t it. Arab nations are racist arseholes for not wanting refugees. BUT USA is fine for having the same attitude? I’m mean you’re both hating on brown people,’in fact maybe the Arab nations have more integrity as they aren’t saying immigrants are a problem unless they are white and from South Africa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #38 February 10 5 hours ago, richravizza said: Irony, both marked by the killing of Jews. Arabs, this time. And it will be no one's fault. They will be deported, but the country they are deported to will not accept them. Perhaps they will be invited to swim to the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #39 February 16 Hi folks, Say what you will about Trump but I doubt that he is this dumb: Sarah Palin would 'love' to join Trump administration And, if you have not watched it, I do recommend: Game Change (film) - Wikipedia Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #40 February 16 On 2/5/2025 at 5:58 PM, nigel99 said: You saw the comments where he said all the Palestinians must leave though? Traditionally peoples who engage in unprovoked attacks on their neighbors become refugees when they are trounced militarily. I've lived in places that had one ethnicity before a war that was surgically removed thereafter. Leaving the population of Gaza in place after their military defeat constitutes doing the same thing and expecting different results. Unfortunately, none of the countries that appear likely at first blush want anything to do with Palestinians. Egypt? No way. Lebanon? Forget it. Syria? Not a chance. Jordan? They've been down that road before. Turkey? Are you kidding? The only country that tolerates them at all is, ironically enough, Israel. If they want sympathy, they are welcome to earn it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,409 #41 February 16 4 hours ago, dogyks said: Jordan? Didn't King Abdullah recently say he's take in 2,000 refugee children, so it may be a start towards something. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #42 February 16 3 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Didn't King Abdullah recently say he's take in 2,000 refugee children, so it may be a start towards something. Hadn't heard. Would be nice if they had somewhere to go where they could flourish, they've been toxic wherever they've landed so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #43 February 16 5 minutes ago, dogyks said: Hadn't heard. Would be nice if they had somewhere to go where they could flourish, they've been toxic wherever they've landed so far. Well, I know a decent number of refugees in the US who have been very productive members of society. Maybe here? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #44 February 16 25 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Well, I know a decent number of refugees in the US who have been very productive members of society. Maybe here? Wendy P. Is your goal to be a wellspring of bad ideas? If so, you're on a roll. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,249 #45 February 16 1 hour ago, BIGUN said: Didn't King Abdullah recently say he's take in 2,000 refugee children, so it may be a start towards something. Only 1,998,000 to go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #46 February 16 1 hour ago, dogyks said: Is your goal to be a wellspring of bad ideas? If so, you're on a roll. I’m basing it on personal experience. What are you basing your statement on? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #47 February 16 6 hours ago, dogyks said: Traditionally peoples who engage in unprovoked attacks on their neighbors become refugees when they are trounced militarily. I've lived in places that had one ethnicity before a war that was surgically removed thereafter. Indeed, every child learns at school how all the Germans were kicked out of Germany and the Japanese removed from Japan at the end of WW2, and only then was peace and prosperity secured. Oh no I'm sorry, we did the other thing. We were nice to them. And it worked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #48 February 16 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: I’m basing it on personal experience. What are you basing your statement on? Wendy P. Ditto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
