Isn’t this why the 2nd Amendment exists?

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10 minutes ago, jakee said:

What do you care if a private company decides to fire someone? You like people being fired

I said I don't want to pay $100 for a hamburger I'm not flying in a 100LL airplane to get.  I don't want the money supply tripled again so we can pretend to pay for gay trans musicals in Gaza while lining people's pockets with tax money.

[jakee 1,497]

14 minutes ago, base698 said:

Seriously? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59989476

 

The first sentence, dude. The very first sentence.

The US Supreme Court has blocked President Joe Biden's rule requiring workers at large companies to be vaccinated or masked and tested weekly.

14 minutes ago, base698 said:

Disinformation on social media was Trump's thing? 

Oh for sure Trump and his supporters spread a huge amount of disinformation on social media. Good to see you recognise that at least. But the clip you provide is of Sinclair's stations accusing the mainstream media of spreading misinformation against Trump. You know this (in part because the clip is literally titled "Sinclair's script for stations"), which is why I know you don't believe for a second that it has anything to do with USAID.

[jakee 1,497]

16 minutes ago, base698 said:

I said I don't want to pay $100 for a hamburger I'm not flying in a 100LL airplane to get.  I don't want the money supply tripled again so we can pretend to pay for gay trans musicals in Gaza while lining people's pockets with tax money.

Which is, again, all obvious nonsense which you don't believe and which has nothing to do with the government potentially firing tens of thousands of people without due process. You just like seeing people fired.

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9 minutes ago, jakee said:

The first sentence, dude. The very first sentence.

My wife's company did not care if you were tested they enforced it as vax only.  Several other companies I was familiar with similar.  Mine gave a quasi way out, where you could attest you had a vax but didn't have to show proof.  The practical implementations, especially in blue areas, were more severe.

8 minutes ago, jakee said:

Which is, again, all obvious nonsense which you don't believe and which has nothing to do with the government potentially firing tens of thousands of people without due process. You

You don't think the government spending and printing money, tripling the money supply, causes prices to increase?  If the government didn't have to print money to pay these people and their vast patronage network you think they would print money indescriminitely as they have since 2008?

[jakee 1,497]

1 hour ago, base698 said:

My wife's company did not care if you were tested they enforced it as vax only.  Several other companies I was familiar with similar. 

So? Biden didn't do that, your companies did that. 

1 hour ago, base698 said:

Mine gave a quasi way out, where you could attest you had a vax but didn't have to show proof. 

That would be a way out of complying with their own internal policy. Biden did not require you to be vaccinated or to say you were vaccinated. You were simply having a private dispute with your employer over the conditions of your employment. Given what you support you cannot possibly claim they did not have the right to fire you if they wanted.

1 hour ago, base698 said:

You don't think the government spending and printing money, tripling the money supply, causes prices to increase? 

You think it causes wages to stay flat? No, people like Musk and Bezos do that.

[gowlerk 2,198]

5 hours ago, base698 said:

Can you explain how when wages remain constant and prices for housing, insurance, education and food triples everyone is supposed to afford life and basic necessities?

• United States:
  • Wages have risen faster than prices since the pandemic began. 
     
  • Lower-paid workers have seen the largest gains. 
     
  • Wage growth outpaced inflation in nearly every state since 2021.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are-higher-than-they-have-ever-been-and-employment-is-near-its-all-time-high/

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[billvon 2,996]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

• United States:
  • Wages have risen faster than prices since the pandemic began. 
     
  • Lower-paid workers have seen the largest gains. 
     
  • Wage growth outpaced inflation in nearly every state since 2021.

FOX News didn't tell him THAT!

[billvon 2,996]

5 hours ago, base698 said:

I said I don't want to pay $100 for a hamburger I'm not flying in a 100LL airplane to get. 

Tariffs are going to drive up the price of tractor parts, cattle feed, and food preparation equipment.  Mass deportations will drive up the price of wheat, produce and service industry personnel.   Sorry Charlie!  Perhaps you can help drive it down in 4 year by electing someone else.

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8 hours ago, billvon said:

Tariffs are going to drive up the price of tractor parts, cattle feed, and food preparation equipment. 

For sure, short and medium term that will probably be worse, especially for small to medium sized manufacturing businesses.

 

8 hours ago, billvon said:

FOX News didn't tell him THAT!

Fox, like every other network, is trash.  I've said that before.  My take on TV news comes from "Amusing Ourselves to Death"

 

10 hours ago, gowlerk said:

Wages have risen faster than prices since the pandemic began. 

I have a bridge to sell you.  Rental and housing market nearly everywhere I track are still out of control, with some exceptions.  If you compare to pandemic here, then yeah, but if you go back to 2018 prices are still 2-3x.  Groceries and restaurants are particularly egregious.  Look at jump tickets!  

There is definitely some wage growth in low wage work.  I know i see what looks like a lot of money for that posted on job openings but it doesn't help if you're paying $2000 a month for rent, $400 a week on groceries.  

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1 hour ago, base698 said:

Fox, like every other network, is trash.  I've said that before.  My take on TV news comes from "Amusing Ourselves to Death"

Which is why you know nothing about it, and why it was so easy for Musk to fool you into thinking a right wing media conglomerate pushing a mandatory pro-Trump message across its channels was actually evidence of a left wing deep state USAID propaganda plot?

Ah, sorry I got sucked into taking your posts at face value for a moment. I know you don't really believe any of that, you just need some cover to make revelling in the illegal mass firings of tens of thousands of ordinary people less wealthy than you seem more palatable. 

1 hour ago, base698 said:

I have a bridge to sell you.  Rental and housing market nearly everywhere I track are still out of control, with some exceptions.  If you compare to pandemic here, then yeah, but if you go back to 2018 prices are still 2-3x.  Groceries and restaurants are particularly egregious.  Look at jump tickets!  

A Skydive AZ tandem costs £260. In 2018 did it cost $90? $130? I find either of those hard to believe. Similarly a normal jump ticket is $33. In 2018 was it $11? $16.50? I think almost certainly not. What do you think it was? 

Now what about particularly egregious groceries? In 2018 a gallon of milk was $2.85, in 2024 it was $4.10. Doesn't look particularly like a 3x increase to me. And 2018 was a freakishly low priced year. In 2014 it was £3.82 and in 2007 it was $3.87! So really in nearly 20 years the peak price of milk has increased by 1.07x. If anything that sounds unsustainably low for producers.

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2 hours ago, jakee said:

Which is why you know nothing about it, and why it was so easy for Musk to fool you into thinking a right wing media conglomerate pushing a mandatory pro-Trump message across its channels was actually evidence of a left wing deep state USAID propaganda plot

I simply looked at the video talking disinformation and I remembered it when it went around.  Has disinformation been a smear against the left or right?  Trump's preferred term is fake news.  He would have, I assume at the time, not claimed that social media and the Internet was disinformation.  He reserved that for the mainstream media.

I am happy to be wrong that was protrump messaging.  The main point I made with it was the media was in lockstep with messaging since at least Trump and maybe before even in publications and TV news that should have had some ideological diversity.  The prevailing theory was an abstract concept called the cathedral (or iron polygon) which is decentralized.  If there was a direct funding it was in fact centralized.

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[billvon 2,996]

24 minutes ago, base698 said:

I simply looked at the video talking disinformation and I remembered it when it went around.  Has disinformation been a smear against the left or right?

Both sides have used it.  The right has made it a central pillar of their propaganda efforts.