#tregret

[billvon 3,028]

Graham Peters was a scientist working on stopping the invasion of the Sea Lamprey into the Great Lakes, an invasive species that could decimate ecosystems and fishing in the Great Lakes.  He has dedicated the past three years to this battle because he feels like the Great Lakes must be protected.  He was recently fired by Trump.  He voted for Trump because of his promises about economic progress and immigration.  Now he feels betrayed.  "If I had known that this was going to happen, I wouldn’t have voted for him,’”

A disabled veteran in Virigina didn't want to give his name in case Trump retaliated against him - but was fired from his job at FEMA recently.  “I voted for Donald Trump. But this is not what I was expecting. We didn’t think they were going to take a chainsaw to a silk rug."  His wife said something similar.  "I recognize there are a lot of cuts that need to be made, but this is not the one that you think will happen to your family. I encouraged him to take the job there, because he loved working for the agency, and I think it has a good mission.”

Robert McCabe of Philadelphia felt similarly about losing his job at the IRS.  "You know when he talks about government waste and all that, yes, I’m behind it. I believe there is a lot of stuff in the government that needs fixing. And that’s part of the reason why I actually wanted to work for the government, actually. To help change. Help change the things that are wrong in the world, you know? I thought that someone with his business acumen would have come in with a fine-tooth comb and actually found it instead of coming in with a wrecking ball and destroying people’s lives for no reason.”

Another anonymous poster shared her thoughts on an online forum, after the NIH doctors caring for her niece were fired.

"Was not expecting this mistake from Trump and Elon.  My cousin's beautiful 30 year old daughter has been battling glioblastoma, a horrible malignant brain tumor. Most people with this do not survive a year. After undergoing surgery, she entered a clinical trial funded through NIH and has survived almost 5 years … unbelievable really. 

My cousin is devastated and today is frantically searching universities everywhere across the country that may be able to continue to help his daughter. 

I voted for Trump, I believe in his agenda, and I want to reduce the size of government. 

But these rapid mass firings are out of control. The idea that every person he is firing is expendable is ridiculous. The people at NIH helping my cousin were likely brilliant, dedicated, compassionate professionals and probably underpaid as well.  I wish Trump and Elon had been more careful and left them alone."

Unfortunately, we will see this sort of thing repeated thousands of times over the next years as Trump cuts vital services keeping Americans alive.

[jakee 1,528]

It is truly staggering how many people can't see anything of the world outside their own house.

We had the same thing after Brexit, any industry you can think of was chock full of people standing their in amazement. Transport, food, science, space, aviation, medicine, policing, construction, banking, all of it. 'Well of course I thought they'd never cut ties with my specialty, it's so obviously a good and useful thing! Not like all the other red tape holding everyone else's specialities back."

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

Graham Peters was a scientist working on stopping the invasion of the Sea Lamprey into the Great Lakes, an invasive species that could decimate ecosystems and fishing in the Great Lakes.  He has dedicated the past three years to this battle because he feels like the Great Lakes must be protected.  He was recently fired by Trump.  He voted for Trump because of his promises about economic progress and immigration.  Now he feels betrayed.  "If I had known that this was going to happen, I wouldn’t have voted for him,’”

A disabled veteran in Virigina didn't want to give his name in case Trump retaliated against him - but was fired from his job at FEMA recently.  “I voted for Donald Trump. But this is not what I was expecting. We didn’t think they were going to take a chainsaw to a silk rug."  His wife said something similar.  "I recognize there are a lot of cuts that need to be made, but this is not the one that you think will happen to your family. I encouraged him to take the job there, because he loved working for the agency, and I think it has a good mission.”

Robert McCabe of Philadelphia felt similarly about losing his job at the IRS.  "You know when he talks about government waste and all that, yes, I’m behind it. I believe there is a lot of stuff in the government that needs fixing. And that’s part of the reason why I actually wanted to work for the government, actually. To help change. Help change the things that are wrong in the world, you know? I thought that someone with his business acumen would have come in with a fine-tooth comb and actually found it instead of coming in with a wrecking ball and destroying people’s lives for no reason.”

Another anonymous poster shared her thoughts on an online forum, after the NIH doctors caring for her niece were fired.

"Was not expecting this mistake from Trump and Elon.  My cousin's beautiful 30 year old daughter has been battling glioblastoma, a horrible malignant brain tumor. Most people with this do not survive a year. After undergoing surgery, she entered a clinical trial funded through NIH and has survived almost 5 years … unbelievable really. 

My cousin is devastated and today is frantically searching universities everywhere across the country that may be able to continue to help his daughter. 

I voted for Trump, I believe in his agenda, and I want to reduce the size of government. 

But these rapid mass firings are out of control. The idea that every person he is firing is expendable is ridiculous. The people at NIH helping my cousin were likely brilliant, dedicated, compassionate professionals and probably underpaid as well.  I wish Trump and Elon had been more careful and left them alone."

Unfortunately, we will see this sort of thing repeated thousands of times over the next years as Trump cuts vital services keeping Americans alive.

Hi Biil,

Aren't You Glad You Voted For Trump - Speakers Corner - Skydiveforum.com

Once a con man, always a con man.

Re:  Trump cuts vital services keeping Americans alive.

Does anyone here think Trump cares about keeping Americans alive?

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 521]

1 hour ago, jakee said:

It is truly staggering how many people can't see anything of the world outside their own house.

We had the same thing after Brexit, any industry you can think of was chock full of people standing their in amazement. Transport, food, science, space, aviation, medicine, policing, construction, banking, all of it. 'Well of course I thought they'd never cut ties with my specialty, it's so obviously a good and useful thing! Not like all the other red tape holding everyone else's specialities back."

We had to have Brexit. If we hadn’t then due to Eu laws we would have had to have straight bananas.

[kallend 2,056]

Trump is a con-man.  His record as a con-man is long and public.  They knew he lied all the way through his first term.  Yet they voted for him anyway.

 

Well, they got the result they voted for, just not the one they expected.

[kallend 2,056]

29 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

We had to have Brexit. If we hadn’t then due to Eu laws we would have had to have straight bananas.

 

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

1 hour ago, kallend said:

Trump is a con-man.  His record as a con-man is long and public.  They knew he lied all the way through his first term.  Yet they voted for him anyway.

 

Well, they got the result they voted for, just not the one they expected.

Hi John,

If they had done any thinking, they would have expected this.

Jerry Baumchen

[JoeWeber 2,760]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi John,

If they had done any thinking, they would have expected this.

Jerry Baumchen

The Left Media is hunting hard for Leopard eating faces stories and they aren't that hard to find. We are in the early innings and a lot of MAGA are still laughing and singing.

[billvon 3,028]

Billionaire Ken Griffin is having some #tregret after donating millions to the Trump campaign.

See if you can spot the difference between these two news stories about him, one before and one after the election.

Before:

Mr. Griffin downplayed one of the biggest concerns about Trumponomics—that tariffs could dent growth and accelerate inflation. He said it remained unclear whether Mr. Trump’s threats to slap tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China would materialize, adding that the talk of tariffs imposed by the United States was “small ball compared to the role that the world is looking to us for.” He said he didn’t see tariffs as the most important business issue.

After:

Ken Griffin, founder of investment firm Citadel, warned Tuesday that President Donald Trump's tariff policies pose a serious risk to America's economic growth,” reported the Daily Mail, a tabloid based in the United Kingdom. “He said they may force other countries to find new trade alliances, as he criticized Trump's 'bombastic rhetoric.'”

“The uncertainty and chaos created by the tariff dynamics between us and our allies is an impediment to growth,” he said at a conference. 

Uh oh.  Honeymoon might be over.

[JoeWeber 2,760]

43 minutes ago, billvon said:

Billionaire Ken Griffin is having some #tregret after donating millions to the Trump campaign.

See if you can spot the difference between these two news stories about him, one before and one after the election.

Before:

Mr. Griffin downplayed one of the biggest concerns about Trumponomics—that tariffs could dent growth and accelerate inflation. He said it remained unclear whether Mr. Trump’s threats to slap tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China would materialize, adding that the talk of tariffs imposed by the United States was “small ball compared to the role that the world is looking to us for.” He said he didn’t see tariffs as the most important business issue.

After:

Ken Griffin, founder of investment firm Citadel, warned Tuesday that President Donald Trump's tariff policies pose a serious risk to America's economic growth,” reported the Daily Mail, a tabloid based in the United Kingdom. “He said they may force other countries to find new trade alliances, as he criticized Trump's 'bombastic rhetoric.'”

“The uncertainty and chaos created by the tariff dynamics between us and our allies is an impediment to growth,” he said at a conference. 

Uh oh.  Honeymoon might be over.

He's the Citadel Hedge Fund, Fisher Investments head who advertises all over to folks with $500K in retirement money to invest in equities. Of course, anything less than $500K will do, too. He's been hugely successful at scarfing up that kind of money. We'll see how those trusting folks enjoy things when that 25% haircut happens and they can't easily exit. But no worries, as you can see from your post examples above he's a real economic genius.

[JerryBaumchen 1,384]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Billionaire Ken Griffin is having some #tregret after donating millions to the Trump campaign.

See if you can spot the difference between these two news stories about him, one before and one after the election.

Before:

Mr. Griffin downplayed one of the biggest concerns about Trumponomics—that tariffs could dent growth and accelerate inflation. He said it remained unclear whether Mr. Trump’s threats to slap tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China would materialize, adding that the talk of tariffs imposed by the United States was “small ball compared to the role that the world is looking to us for.” He said he didn’t see tariffs as the most important business issue.

After:

Ken Griffin, founder of investment firm Citadel, warned Tuesday that President Donald Trump's tariff policies pose a serious risk to America's economic growth,” reported the Daily Mail, a tabloid based in the United Kingdom. “He said they may force other countries to find new trade alliances, as he criticized Trump's 'bombastic rhetoric.'”

“The uncertainty and chaos created by the tariff dynamics between us and our allies is an impediment to growth,” he said at a conference. 

Uh oh.  Honeymoon might be over.

Hi Bill,

Just give it some more time; there are going to be a lot of Americans who will face this question:  Aren't you glad you voted for Trump?

Just wait until harvest time this Spring.

Jerry Baumchen

[jakee 1,528]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

After:

Ken Griffin, founder of investment firm Citadel, warned Tuesday that President Donald Trump's tariff policies pose a serious risk to America's economic growth,” reported the Daily Mail, a tabloid based in the United Kingdom. “He said they may force other countries to find new trade alliances, as he criticized Trump's 'bombastic rhetoric.'”

“The uncertainty and chaos created by the tariff dynamics between us and our allies is an impediment to growth,” he said at a conference. 

Even in the Leopards Eating People's Faces meme they said they wouldn't eat your face. Trump categorically told this guy that his was going to be the first face to get eaten. What on earth did he think was going to happen?

[thelivo 0]

On 2/22/2025 at 8:25 PM, nigel99 said:

We had to have Brexit. If we hadn’t then due to Eu laws we would have had to have straight bananas.

And the sad thing is this makes as much sense as any other reason for brexit.

[billvon 3,028]

Jack Daniels CEO Lawson Whiting (also a Trump supporter) is having some #tregret as Canadians pull US products from shelves.  It is a "disproportionate response" and completely unfair to him.  "I mean, that's worse than a tariff, because it's literally taking your sales away, [and] completely removing our products from the shelves."

[SCS422 30]

On 2/22/2025 at 9:44 AM, billvon said:

Graham Peters was a scientist working on stopping the invasion of the Sea Lamprey into the Great Lakes, an invasive species that could decimate ecosystems and fishing in the Great Lakes.  He has dedicated the past three years to this battle because he feels like the Great Lakes must be protected.  He was recently fired by Trump.  He voted for Trump because of his promises about economic progress and immigration.  Now he feels betrayed.  "If I had known that this was going to happen, I wouldn’t have voted for him,’”

A disabled veteran in Virigina didn't want to give his name in case Trump retaliated against him - but was fired from his job at FEMA recently.  “I voted for Donald Trump. But this is not what I was expecting. We didn’t think they were going to take a chainsaw to a silk rug."  His wife said something similar.  "I recognize there are a lot of cuts that need to be made, but this is not the one that you think will happen to your family. I encouraged him to take the job there, because he loved working for the agency, and I think it has a good mission.”

Robert McCabe of Philadelphia felt similarly about losing his job at the IRS.  "You know when he talks about government waste and all that, yes, I’m behind it. I believe there is a lot of stuff in the government that needs fixing. And that’s part of the reason why I actually wanted to work for the government, actually. To help change. Help change the things that are wrong in the world, you know? I thought that someone with his business acumen would have come in with a fine-tooth comb and actually found it instead of coming in with a wrecking ball and destroying people’s lives for no reason.”

Another anonymous poster shared her thoughts on an online forum, after the NIH doctors caring for her niece were fired.

"Was not expecting this mistake from Trump and Elon.  My cousin's beautiful 30 year old daughter has been battling glioblastoma, a horrible malignant brain tumor. Most people with this do not survive a year. After undergoing surgery, she entered a clinical trial funded through NIH and has survived almost 5 years … unbelievable really. 

My cousin is devastated and today is frantically searching universities everywhere across the country that may be able to continue to help his daughter. 

I voted for Trump, I believe in his agenda, and I want to reduce the size of government. 

But these rapid mass firings are out of control. The idea that every person he is firing is expendable is ridiculous. The people at NIH helping my cousin were likely brilliant, dedicated, compassionate professionals and probably underpaid as well.  I wish Trump and Elon had been more careful and left them alone."

Unfortunately, we will see this sort of thing repeated thousands of times over the next years as Trump cuts vital services keeping Americans alive.

This is an unfortunate outcome of big business, it's just the way it is when your making big cuts you cannot look at each individual case you take out a piece of the pie and that's it, some good is going to go with the bad, anybody that has taken courses in economics can see that.

[normiss 814]

13 minutes ago, SCS422 said:

This is an unfortunate outcome of big business, it's just the way it is when your making big cuts you cannot look at each individual case you take out a piece of the pie and that's it, some good is going to go with the bad, anybody that has taken courses in economics can see that.

Government is and should always be different. It's not a business, nor should it ever be.

 

[GeorgiaDon 369]

Business is about making a profit for the owners or shareholders.  Government is (or should be) about providing services that are not inherently profitable, such as protecting peoples rights and safety, regulating business to limit their tendency to maximize profit by screwing over people, supporting basic research that isn't profitable in the near term but eventually may lead to advances that can be picked up on by industry to develop products such as new drugs, and so on.  It's infuriating (to say the least) to see the US government being taken over by grifters who clearly seek to personally profit, either by direct means or indirectly by eliminating the ability of government to prevent them from running roughshod over everybody else.  

"it's just the way it is" is just a slightly different way of saying "fuck anybody who I don't like".  

[olofscience 485]

36 minutes ago, SCS422 said:

anybody that has taken courses in economics

I'm going to take a wild guess... that you've taken 0 economics courses before. 1, tops.

[billvon 3,028]

38 minutes ago, SCS422 said:

This is an unfortunate outcome of big business

So you see government's role as choosing winners and losers?

I'll remember that the next time there is a democratic administration and you complain about solar subsidies.

[kallend 2,056]

11 minutes ago, GeorgiaDon said:

Business is about making a profit for the owners or shareholders. 

How does bankrupting casinos fit into that model?

[jakee 1,528]

1 hour ago, SCS422 said:

This is an unfortunate outcome of big business, it's just the way it is when your making big cuts you cannot look at each individual case you take out a piece of the pie and that's it, some good is going to go with the bad, anybody that has taken courses in economics can see that.

I have never taken a course in economics but even I know we’re not talking about business.

[JoeWeber 2,760]

1 hour ago, SCS422 said:

This is an unfortunate outcome of big business, it's just the way it is when your making big cuts you cannot look at each individual case you take out a piece of the pie and that's it, some good is going to go with the bad, anybody that has taken courses in economics can see that.

You are wrong, so wrong that I doubt any explanation about why government isn't supposed to be run like a business will be ignored.

[SCS422 30]

So tell me, when General Motors has a big layoff do you think they go thru each individual employees tracks record?  I seriously doubt it,  get real out there people your going to lose some good people  when you have big layoffs,  

[wmw999 2,475]

7 minutes ago, SCS422 said:

So tell me, when General Motors has a big layoff do you think they go thru each individual employees tracks record?  I seriously doubt it,  get real out there people your going to lose some good people  when you have big layoffs,  

Do you think government is a business?

Wendy P. 

[dogyks 5]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

Government is and should always be different. It's not a business, nor should it ever be.

 

It should, however, balance the budget. Printing currency to account for overspending has been done repeatedly, and the only difference in outcome is when and how bad.