2028 Presidential Nominee

[BIGUN 1,370]

Consider this a request for information. Who in the Democratic party would you put up in the next presidential election. I would like to vote for someone. 

Criteria:

Fiscally Responsible

Able to harmonize with both sides of the aisle. 

Statesman

International respect. 

Demonstrated leadership. 

History of policy execution. 

War - if we have to defend ourselves.

[jakee 1,553]

9 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

War - if we have to defend ourselves.

What qualities or career achievements would you accept as satisfying the criteria ‘war’?

[wmw999 2,507]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

Consider this a request for information. Who in the Democratic party would you put up in the next presidential election. I would like to vote for someone. 

Criteria:

Fiscally Responsible

Able to harmonize with both sides of the aisle. 

Statesman

International respect. 

Demonstrated leadership. 

History of policy execution. 

War - if we have to defend ourselves.

Hillary Clinton has all of that. But she's poisoned. She was Secretary of State in wartime; she was a respected senator who did work with both sides of the aisle, etc. 

You're looking for a governor who's also a veteran (preferably wartime) in a state that's not just a lock for one party or the other. The Vietnam era vets are generally too old. A Pew Research study showed that only 14% of candidates for governor in 2022 were veterans (as compared with 16% of the Senate, and 21% of the House). That's way down from when nearly every politician was male and a WW2 or Korea vet.

Serving has become more something that people who don't have tons of resources do more than rich people, and it takes money and connections to run for office. 

But Wes Moore (who I know you favored) is on that list; I'm not sure he wants it, and you have to REALLY want to be president.

Wendy P.

Wendy P.

[BIGUN 1,370]

57 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Wes Moore

He was my first thought.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

8 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

He was my first thought.

He's not right.

[David Wang 63]

First thought was Newsom. I will need to do more research on him, though. 

[JoeWeber 2,790]

6 hours ago, David Wang said:

First thought was Newsom. I will need to do more research on him, though. 

Too woke. 

[billvon 3,049]

10 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Too woke. 

Everyone to the left of Mussolini is "too woke" for republicans, so you might as well not even consider their "wokeness."

[BIGUN 1,370]

38 minutes ago, billvon said:

Everyone to the left of Mussolini is "too woke" for republicans, so you might as well not even consider their "wokeness."

Oh yea, I left out != anyone from Cali :)

Who's your pick, Bill?

Edited February 26 by BIGUN

[JoeWeber 2,790]

35 minutes ago, billvon said:

Everyone to the left of Mussolini is "too woke" for republicans, so you might as well not even consider their "wokeness."

Then we get some kompromat on his clone and run him. The left needs to recognize that until we fight dirty and control the narrative to win we won't. So we find someone to build up, like a Potato Head, and spend 4 years unwoking the lucky winner.

[BIGUN 1,370]

On 2/25/2025 at 3:37 PM, wmw999 said:

ut Wes Moore (who I know you favored) is on that list;

Leadership 101: Take care of your people. 

https://governor.maryland.gov/news/press/pages/factsheet-in-support-of-md-federal-public-servants.aspx

[gowlerk 2,236]

Cory Booker is making a big play right now. Is he looking to replace Schumer or something larger?

[wmw999 2,507]

1 hour ago, gowlerk said:

Cory Booker is making a big play right now. Is he looking to replace Schumer or something larger?

Works for me. He's young enough. That's huge for me right now -- I'm sick of old farts. It's not their future.

Wendy P.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

15 minutes ago, wmw999 said:

Works for me. He's young enough. That's huge for me right now -- I'm sick of old farts. It's not their future.

Wendy P.

It doesn't work for me and the reason is obvious: too many racists won't give him a look. They are empowered now, a fact we ignore at our peril. The Democrats were stupid to run a black women against the biggest political threat of our lifetimes knowing the risks and the risks are even more severe now. We need to leave our better selves behind, hold our noses, and pick someone acceptable to at least a small percentage of the bubbas. 

[normiss 835]

23 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

It doesn't work for me and the reason is obvious: too many racists won't give him a look. They are empowered now, a fact we ignore at our peril. The Democrats were stupid to run a black women against the biggest political threat of our lifetimes knowing the risks and the risks are even more severe now. We need to leave our better selves behind, hold our noses, and pick someone acceptable to at least a small percentage of the bubbas. 

I have NEVER, nor will I EVER tolerate racism. Bending the knee and accepting it is what got us here. Fuck racism and fuck those who insist on it.

[JoeWeber 2,790]

1 hour ago, normiss said:

I have NEVER, nor will I EVER tolerate racism. Bending the knee and accepting it is what got us here. Fuck racism and fuck those who insist on it.

And you are right, absolutely. The sad reality however is that racists got us here, by and large. The only real chance, beyond martial law, that Trump has of a third term is by running as vice-president. Unless his brand is severely damaged in between now and then, and even that's a cold comfort at best, the cult will again be out in force. We need some 6-8% of them to win. Just the way it is now, offensive that it may be.

[nigel99 551]

4 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

It doesn't work for me and the reason is obvious: too many racists won't give him a look. They are empowered now, a fact we ignore at our peril. The Democrats were stupid to run a black women against the biggest political threat of our lifetimes knowing the risks and the risks are even more severe now. We need to leave our better selves behind, hold our noses, and pick someone acceptable to at least a small percentage of the bubbas. 

Considering the pace of the anti DEI actions, the stripping of laws protecting women and non whites and apathy of politicians and the people on stopping it, there’s a good chance only white males will be allowed in 2028.

[BIGUN 1,370]

15 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Unless his brand is severely damaged in between now and then

<wait for it>

[BIGUN 1,370]

16 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

We need to leave our better selves behind, hold our noses, and pick someone acceptable to at least a small percentage of the bubbas. 

Longing for the Clinton era, huh? :)