SCS422 30 #1 Posted Wednesday at 04:10 AM The best political speech I have ever heard. If I was a liberal Democrat I would be looking for a rock to crawl under, their actions during the speech was an embarrassment to the whole party! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,475 #2 Wednesday at 04:56 AM What did you like about it? Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 521 #3 Wednesday at 05:09 AM 58 minutes ago, SCS422 said: The best political speech I have ever heard. If I was a liberal Democrat I would be looking for a rock to crawl under, their actions during the speech was an embarrassment to the whole party! Kim and Xi would be proud Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,760 #4 Wednesday at 05:46 AM 1 hour ago, SCS422 said: The best political speech I have ever heard. If I was a liberal Democrat I would be looking for a rock to crawl under, their actions during the speech was an embarrassment to the whole party! For sure! What Trump was lying and being a fool about was irrelevant in juxtaposition to a few Democrats making protests. Truly, your view of what is happening in world politics today is as relevant, by comparison, as your belief that old 20 man formations are relevant to skydiving today; that is to say ossified. Like the many hundreds of big ways I've been on by luck it's just another thing I've done. PM me your address and I'll spot you a couple of patches that extoll your old accomplishments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,056 #5 Wednesday at 10:37 AM 5 hours ago, wmw999 said: What did you like about it? Wendy P. I like that he can lie so smoothly and without any apparent embarrassment, and that his sycophants lap it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 521 #6 Wednesday at 12:46 PM 7 hours ago, wmw999 said: What did you like about it? Wendy P. My favourite parts. We are stripping away environmental regulations that hamper business. Followed up 20 minutes later with a diatribe about cancer and autism by chemicals in the environment. Spends 5 minutes praising Elon Musk and him dismantling government, followed up with we are no longer going to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats. He’s brought back free speech and got rid of censorship. But he’s just signed the take it down act and he will use it lots ‘because people are nasty to me online’ The perfect display of an autocrat disparaging the opposition, with no attempt at unity and not a single smile. The dignified displays of applause from the GOP like some 3rd world dictators rally. He did admit that tariffs would bring “a little bit of temporary hardship” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #7 Wednesday at 06:26 PM 5 hours ago, nigel99 said: My favourite parts. We are stripping away environmental regulations that hamper business. Followed up 20 minutes later with a diatribe about cancer and autism by chemicals in the environment. Spends 5 minutes praising Elon Musk and him dismantling government, followed up with we are no longer going to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats. He’s brought back free speech and got rid of censorship. But he’s just signed the take it down act and he will use it lots ‘because people are nasty to me online’ The perfect display of an autocrat disparaging the opposition, with no attempt at unity and not a single smile. The dignified displays of applause from the GOP like some 3rd world dictators rally. He did admit that tariffs would bring “a little bit of temporary hardship” Hi Nigel, Those MAGA-types should realize that sometimes the truth hurts. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #8 Wednesday at 07:51 PM 9 hours ago, kallend said: I like that he can lie so smoothly and without any apparent embarrassment, and that his sycophants lap it up. As I have long said, you give him credit for being able to lie. To someone who considers "truth" to be an abstraction at best, the difference between true and false is meaningless. In Russian Prada means 'truth' and Izvestia means 'news,' hence the witticism that "in Pravda there is no Izvestia and in Izvestia there is no Pravda." Thus it is ironic that Trump's platform is "Truth Social" (it's been done). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 814 #9 Wednesday at 08:15 PM 24 minutes ago, dogyks said: As I have long said, you give him credit for being able to lie. To someone who considers "truth" to be an abstraction at best, the difference between true and false is meaningless. In Russian Prada means 'truth' and Izvestia means 'news,' hence the witticism that "in Pravda there is no Izvestia and in Izvestia there is no Pravda." Thus it is ironic that Trump's platform is "Truth Social" (it's been done). Given that he is a Russian asset, I see zero irony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #10 Wednesday at 09:00 PM 43 minutes ago, normiss said: Given that he is a Russian asset, I see zero irony. Again, calling him a Russian asset gives him too much credit. "Unwitting tool of Moscow" at best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 814 #11 Wednesday at 09:43 PM 41 minutes ago, dogyks said: Again, calling him a Russian asset gives him too much credit. "Unwitting tool of Moscow" at best. I disagree as he appears to be fully "witting". If he wouldn't fuck around with hookers and underage girls, it's quite possible Russia would only have financial interests to use as leverage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,528 #12 Wednesday at 09:49 PM 1 hour ago, dogyks said: As I have long said, you give him credit for being able to lie. To someone who considers "truth" to be an abstraction at best, the difference between true and false is meaningless. In Russian Prada means 'truth' and Izvestia means 'news,' hence the witticism that "in Pravda there is no Izvestia and in Izvestia there is no Pravda." Thus it is ironic that Trump's platform is "Truth Social" (it's been done). Why are you using a different name, Winsor? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,760 #13 Thursday at 01:24 AM 4 hours ago, dogyks said: Again, calling him a Russian asset gives him too much credit. "Unwitting tool of Moscow" at best. Irony meter explodes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,528 #14 Thursday at 11:41 AM 14 hours ago, dogyks said: Again, calling him a Russian asset gives him too much credit. "Unwitting tool of Moscow" at best. You are far too generous to him because you want to make excuses for your support. Remember in this same speech he said the US would take possession of Greenland ‘one way or the other’. Territory of an allied sovereign state. He’s not cosying up to Russia because he doesn’t understand what they’re doing. He knows exactly what they’re doing and thinks it’s a brilliant idea worth copying. He sees Putin as far more of a kindred spirit than any democratically elected western leader because he himself hates having to operate within the constraints of a democracy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,216 #15 Thursday at 08:49 PM 23 hours ago, dogyks said: Again, calling him a Russian asset gives him too much credit. "Unwitting tool of Moscow" at best. The Dotard likes Russian and Putin because they are white and Christian and he sees them as a potential ally against the Muslim world. It is just that simple in his simpleton mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MickPatch 57 #16 Thursday at 08:50 PM To this observer from across the pond it appears Trump and Vance seem hell bent on dissolving NATO. Formed in 1949 in Washington NATO comprises a collective of countries who agreed to support each other in the event of hostility being targeted against any of its members. (Article 5) In 76 years Article 5 has only been invoked once. 12 September 2001 by the USA, every member country stood by the US, most lost hundreds of troops in the subsequent war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #17 Thursday at 08:59 PM 8 minutes ago, MickPatch said: To this observer from across the pond it appears Trump and Vance seem hell bent on dissolving NATO. Formed in 1949 in Washington NATO comprises a collective of countries who agreed to support each other in the event of hostility being targeted against any of its members. (Article 5) In 76 years Article 5 has only been invoked once. 12 September 2001 by the USA, every member country stood by the US, most lost hundreds of troops in the subsequent war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hi Mick, We live in a time of short-minded people. Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,056 #18 Thursday at 10:42 PM 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: The Dotard likes Russian and Putin because they are white and Christian and he sees them as a potential ally against the Muslim world. It is just that simple in his simpleton mind. I think all that goes through his mind is "what's in it for me?". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 521 #19 Friday at 12:09 AM 3 hours ago, JerryBaumchen said: Hi Mick, We live in a time of short-minded people. Jerry Baumchen One of the things all us old farts forget is the 9/11 was 24 years ago. To most people under 40 that is a history lesson, not a life experience. A 30 year old was 6 years old at 9/11 they sure as hell don’t remember how everyone came together in support of the US. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,384 #20 Friday at 01:25 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: One of the things all us old farts forget is the 9/11 was 24 years ago. To most people under 40 that is a history lesson, not a life experience. A 30 year old was 6 years old at 9/11 they sure as hell don’t remember how everyone came together in support of the US. Hi Nigel, Here you go: Quote Origin: Those Who Cannot Remember the Past Are Condemned To Repeat It – Quote Investigator® Jerry Baumchen PS) Even better: Santayana, George: 1863-1952: Philosopher | Encyclopedia.com Edited Friday at 01:27 AM by JerryBaumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 6 #21 Friday at 03:50 AM 5 hours ago, kallend said: I think all that goes through his mind is "what's in it for me?". We have a winner! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites