kallend 2,101 #1 Posted March 16 Congress rolled over and has been playing dead for some time now. However, Trump just totally ignored a court order from a federal judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,808 #2 March 16 1 hour ago, kallend said: Congress rolled over and has been playing dead for some time now. However, Trump just totally ignored a court order from a federal judge. The bit about turning the planes around in flight wasn't a part of the written order according to the news. Not that I think they won't ignore those as well shortly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,244 #3 March 17 52 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: The bit about turning the planes around in flight wasn't a part of the written order according to the news. Not that I think they won't ignore those as well shortly. Even without the court order the abuse of process and the farming out of captives for what is clearly extrajudicial punishment would be breath taking in normal times. It will barely be noticed under today's circumstances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,101 #4 March 17 From the NYT - more evidence that Trump thinks the law is whatever he says it is. Trump wrote on social media on Sunday night that he no longer considered valid the pardons his predecessor granted to members of the bipartisan House committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the Capitol, and a range of other people whom Mr. Trump sees as his political enemies, because they were signed using an autopen device. There is no power in the Constitution or case law to undo a pardon, and there is no exception to pardons signed by autopen. But Mr. Trump’s assertion, which embraced a baseless right-wing conspiracy theory about former President Joseph R. Biden Jr., was a new escalation of his antidemocratic rhetoric. Implicit in his post was Mr. Trump’s belief that the nation’s laws should be whatever he decrees them to be. And it was a jolting reminder that his appetite for revenge has not been sated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,557 #5 March 17 Trump: The President just has to think something and it becomes law! Also Trump: He used the wrong kind of pen it doesn't count. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,101 #6 March 17 46 minutes ago, jakee said: Trump: The President just has to think something and it becomes law! Also Trump: He used the wrong kind of pen it doesn't count. Not a Sharpie, apparently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 843 #7 March 17 1 hour ago, kallend said: Not a Sharpie, apparently. Makes you wonder what Felon 47 called his autopen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogyks 9 #8 March 17 18 minutes ago, normiss said: Makes you wonder what Felon 47 called his autopen. "Nanny always called it Percy..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,244 #9 March 18 Apparently John Roberts is annoyed enough to issue a statement. That’s about all he can do. Not a constitutional crisis yet, but clearly one is just around the corner. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,808 #10 March 18 27 minutes ago, gowlerk said: Apparently John Roberts is annoyed enough to issue a statement. That’s about all he can do. Not a constitutional crisis yet, but clearly one is just around the corner. Too many big words. “For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose,” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,101 #11 March 18 45 minutes ago, JoeWeber said: Too many big words. “For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose,” i wonder if Alito and Thomas concur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,101 #12 March 18 1 hour ago, gowlerk said: Apparently John Roberts is annoyed enough to issue a statement. That’s about all he can do. Not a constitutional crisis yet, but clearly one is just around the corner. To paraphrase Stalin: How many divisions does Roberts have? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites