jakee 1,563 #26 April 10 1 hour ago, TriGirl said: 3 -- Mike Waltz tried to claim the journalist hacked into the conversation. So, basically, he just admitted that the chat is not secure, even within the U.S.? Kind of confirms item 2 above, no? And worth repeating again that Walz said the journalist effectively hacked in by changing his screen name so he looked like someone else. Leaving that there's no evidence that happened, this is Mike Walz's own claim about how secure the chat was. He searched for someone by name only and added them to the chat... And he even thought that excuse was legit enough to play well on national TV! Giving out info on that basis alone could get you fired from high street retail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,436 #27 April 10 32 minutes ago, wmw999 said: Umm TriGirl isn’t Keith Wendy P. Hi Wendy, Thanks, I think. Jerry Baumchen PS) Sorry, Tanya. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,405 #28 April 11 6 hours ago, TriGirl said: A few thoughts All true. There is no such thing as secure communications using electronics.. Ask any of the alphabets that have been hacked. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #29 April 11 Talking of apps. It occurred to me that in this escalating war between Trump and China they have the power to shut down Tictok in the US. I wonder how well US politicians would survive the barrage of complaints if that happened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,405 #30 April 11 3 hours ago, nigel99 said: I wonder how well US politicians would survive the barrage of complaints if that happened? Personally, I give two shits about TikTok. Yesterday, Trump signed ANOTHER EO allowing TikTOk to remain another 75 days. It's now China threatening to shut it down. Sounds like they might have read, "The Art of the Deal" also. It's like watching two men at the pub rub penis heads and the first one to smile loses. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #31 April 11 8 minutes ago, BIGUN said: Personally, I give two shits about TikTok. Yesterday, Trump signed ANOTHER EO allowing TikTOk to remain another 75 days. It's now China threatening to shut it down. Sounds like they might have read, "The Art of the Deal" also. It's like watching two men at the pub rub penis heads and the first one to smile loses. I’ve not heard that saying before! I wasn’t aware of the EO or that they have threatened to shut it down. The reality is they are highly unlikely to shut it down because just like Facebook and Twitter they get to harvest enormous amounts of user data and it’s a very effective disinformation tool. I’ve no doubt that their algorithms can promote material that undermines Trump. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 851 #32 April 11 3 hours ago, nigel99 said: I’ve not heard that saying before! I wasn’t aware of the EO or that they have threatened to shut it down. The reality is they are highly unlikely to shut it down because just like Facebook and Twitter they get to harvest enormous amounts of user data and it’s a very effective disinformation tool. I’ve no doubt that their algorithms can promote material that undermines Trump. The idiocy in America is unbelievable. Tictok is a security risk, a major security risk. But kids think it's cool, so let's allow it. Fucking unbelievable the ignorance that is AmeriKKKa. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,405 #33 April 11 15 hours ago, wmw999 said: TriGirl isn’t Keith But, Keith can identify as a Trigirl :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #34 April 11 5 hours ago, BIGUN said: It's like watching two men at the pub rub penis heads and the first one to smile loses. How do you know this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,405 #35 April 11 1 minute ago, kallend said: How do you know this? Joint Training Exercise in Texas. Bunch of SF, Rangers, Marine Force Recon get done with training and go to the local bar. Things heat up, everyone squares off, and just before the blows start; Mad Dgg walks in the center with his hands up looking at the Marine Force Recon guy and hollers, "I challenge you to a real man's contest!" Everyone quiets and he says, "Let's rub penis heads and the first one to smile loses." Everyone fell out laughing and went back to drinking. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,822 #36 April 11 1 hour ago, BIGUN said: Joint Training Exercise in Texas. Bunch of SF, Rangers, Marine Force Recon get done with training and go to the local bar. Things heat up, everyone squares off, and just before the blows start; Mad Dgg walks in the center with his hands up looking at the Marine Force Recon guy and hollers, "I challenge you to a real man's contest!" Everyone quiets and he says, "Let's rub penis heads and the first one to smile loses." Everyone fell out laughing and went back to drinking. Thank you for your service. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #37 Monday at 08:02 AM (edited) On 4/10/2025 at 9:57 PM, TriGirl said: 3 -- Mike Waltz tried to claim the journalist hacked into the conversation. So, basically, he just admitted that the chat is not secure, even within the U.S.? Kind of confirms item 2 above, no? It now turns out that Hegseth shared the same information at the same time on another group chat he started using his personal phone... with members of his family and friends. I look forward to hearing him explain how his own wife tricked him into inviting her into the Yemen Warplans Casual Group chat. "It's not my fault, she changed her screen name! I thought she was the babysitter..." Edited Monday at 08:03 AM by jakee 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TriGirl 333 #38 Monday at 03:51 PM 7 hours ago, jakee said: It now turns out that Hegseth shared the same information at the same time on another group chat he started using his personal phone... with members of his family and friends. I tried to tell my father why I did not appreciate working for DoD under this secretary (he was surprised when I didn't gleefully agree with him that Hegseth was a great SecDef). I told him Hegseth was woefully unqualified for the position. Looks like Secretary Kegstand is proving me right time and again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #39 Monday at 11:46 PM 15 hours ago, jakee said: It now turns out that Hegseth shared the same information at the same time on another group chat he started using his personal phone... with members of his family and friends. Pete Hegseth, 2016, on Hillary Clinton using an unsecured email server: "If it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now... because the assumption is in the intelligence community, if you are using unclassified means, there is the potential for and likelihood that foreign governments are targeting those accounts." So when will he be reporting to jail? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #40 Tuesday at 12:59 AM 1 hour ago, billvon said: Pete Hegseth, 2016, on Hillary Clinton using an unsecured email server: "If it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton, they would be in jail right now... because the assumption is in the intelligence community, if you are using unclassified means, there is the potential for and likelihood that foreign governments are targeting those accounts." So when will he be reporting to jail? Along the lines of “elect a clown and expect a circus” I don’t think it takes much thought to realise that a journalist/tv personality natural instinct is to “get the scoop” and share news. Honestly, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if there isn’t a signal group going with him and a couple of Fox News staff/Joe Rogan’s. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,070 #41 Tuesday at 02:11 AM 1 hour ago, nigel99 said: Honestly, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if there isn’t a signal group going with him and a couple of Fox News staff/Joe Rogan’s. Agreed. This isn't the first - or second - time he's done this. It's just the second time he got caught. And it wouldn't at all suprise me to learn that one of the recepients is something like @JoeRogan (K Kilimnik.) But it's not his fault because the other guy lied about his name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #42 Tuesday at 03:21 AM 1 hour ago, billvon said: Agreed. This isn't the first - or second - time he's done this. It's just the second time he got caught. And it wouldn't at all suprise me to learn that one of the recepients is something like @JoeRogan (K Kilimnik.) But it's not his fault because the other guy lied about his name. A common tactic cheaters use is to name a contact inauspiciously so John is really Susie from the pub. I’d imagine a republican who’s an anonymous source for the fake news might use the same tactic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #43 Tuesday at 05:13 PM 16 hours ago, nigel99 said: Along the lines of “elect a clown and expect a circus” I don’t think it takes much thought to realise that a journalist/tv personality natural instinct is to “get the scoop” and share news. You give him far too much credit. He's only ever been an opinion contributor and 'TV personality' - he's never been a news journalist as in someone who investigates and uncovers stories. That would be way too much like hard work. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #44 Tuesday at 05:15 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, billvon said: Agreed. This isn't the first - or second - time he's done this. It's just the second time he got caught. He brings his wife into serious meetings with foreign counterparts. I mean for christ's sake - we're dealing with people here who've literally watched House of Cards and used it as a fucking instruction manual. Edited Tuesday at 05:15 PM by jakee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #45 Tuesday at 05:58 PM 42 minutes ago, jakee said: He brings his wife into serious meetings with foreign counterparts. I mean for christ's sake - we're dealing with people here who've literally watched House of Cards and used it as a fucking instruction manual. Well, if she's regularly provided valuable inputs (besides "don't be an asshole, dear"), then maybe she belongs in the meetings. Some wives are actually capable of more than support. Wendy P. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,563 #46 Tuesday at 07:56 PM 1 hour ago, wmw999 said: Well, if she's regularly provided valuable inputs (besides "don't be an asshole, dear"), then maybe she belongs in the meetings. Some wives are actually capable of more than support. Wendy P. Except no, thats bollocks. She shouldn't be there anymore than Bryan Noem should be in meetings about border security and domestic terrorism. Has the Trump administration seriously managed to normalise nepotism to this degree already? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #47 Tuesday at 08:30 PM 3 hours ago, jakee said: He brings his wife into serious meetings with foreign counterparts. I mean for christ's sake - we're dealing with people here who've literally watched House of Cards and used it as a fucking instruction manual. They also think The Dictator and Borat is a playbook. Right down to the sporting events. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,534 #48 Tuesday at 09:48 PM 1 hour ago, jakee said: Has the Trump administration seriously managed to normalise nepotism to this degree already? I'm just remembering Hillary Clinton, who most likely WAS in meetings (not all, but some). Of course, she's smarter than Bill, just less gifted politically Wendy P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeWeber 2,822 #49 Tuesday at 10:42 PM 2 hours ago, jakee said: Except no, thats bollocks. She shouldn't be there anymore than Bryan Noem should be in meetings about border security and domestic terrorism. Has the Trump administration seriously managed to normalise nepotism to this degree already? I dunno, some of the best advice I've been given has been along the lines of don't be such an asshole. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 568 #50 Tuesday at 10:49 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, jakee said: Except no, thats bollocks. She shouldn't be there anymore than Bryan Noem should be in meetings about border security and domestic terrorism. Has the Trump administration seriously managed to normalise nepotism to this degree already? Wendy raises an interesting point. Sometimes couples make a great team and work extremely well together. Although in the Trump admin your point stands. There’s a distinct possibility that in this particular case she’s got more brains than him and it works in everyone’s favour :) If you can’t have a competent white man in charge, I guess the next best thing is an incompetent white man with a wife to help him. Edited Tuesday at 10:50 PM by nigel99 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites