Lockdown at Seattle school

[billvon 3,058]

There was a lockdown at a Seattle school when a suspicious vehicle, suspected in child kidnappings, was identified near the school.  Everyone outside at Denny International Middle School was brought inside and parents were notified.  The children were released after the vehicle left, and the principal sent an email to concerned parents.  “Please know at no point were our students or staff at any risk,” she wrote. “We acted proactively to ensure safety. It is confirmed that the vehicle has left the area.”

The vehicle was an ICE enforcement vehicle.

Eventually some parents are going to take matters into their own hands and it's going to get ugly.

[JoeWeber 2,807]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

There was a lockdown at a Seattle school when a suspicious vehicle, suspected in child kidnappings, was identified near the school.  Everyone outside at Denny International Middle School was brought inside and parents were notified.  The children were released after the vehicle left, and the principal sent an email to concerned parents.  “Please know at no point were our students or staff at any risk,” she wrote. “We acted proactively to ensure safety. It is confirmed that the vehicle has left the area.”

The vehicle was an ICE enforcement vehicle.

Eventually some parents are going to take matters into their own hands and it's going to get ugly.

The Constitution is a dead letter now; jackboots are marching down our sidewalks, a special night police cruises our streets, and already innocent people are being taken away to foreign hell holes that allow for no return. The renditions have just now begun. Whatever was it that John Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, et.al. saw in our democracy that was so awful we needed to be saved by autocracy? I get it that Trump would believe if you are going to a rendition you'd soon be listening to happy children singing songs but those are highly educated people. It's just mind boggling.

[JerryBaumchen 1,421]

16 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

The Constitution is a dead letter now; jackboots are marching down our sidewalks, a special night police cruises our streets, and already innocent people are being taken away to foreign hell holes that allow for no return. The renditions have just now begun. Whatever was it that John Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, et.al. saw in our democracy that was so awful we needed to be saved by autocracy? I get it that Trump would believe if you are going to a rendition you'd soon be listening to happy children singing songs but those are highly educated people. It's just mind boggling.

Hi Joe,

You were saying; Re:  the security members were wearing tactical-type pants and long-sleeved black jackets with no security markings or badges

In case where woman was dragged from GOP town hall, police recommend criminal charges for security guards, others - oregonlive.com

Jerry Baumchen

[BIGUN 1,393]

3 hours ago, billvon said:

The vehicle was an ICE enforcement vehicle.

It was an SPD swat vehicle. They increased school patrols after several school shootings.  

[JoeWeber 2,807]

2 hours ago, BIGUN said:

It was an SPD swat vehicle. They increased school patrols after several school shootings.  

What a bunch of yahoos that they couldn't differentiate between the heavily armed military unit sent to protect them and the heavily armed military unit sent to kidnap some kids. 

[BIGUN 1,393]

10 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

What a bunch of yahoos that they couldn't differentiate between the heavily armed military unit sent to protect them and the heavily armed military unit sent to kidnap some kids. 

While I can appreciate the eloquence of your statement, the nature of the situation was misrepresented by the first media outlet, and the second, before a third posted the real situation. Looking at it from a different perspective, media one and two created more hysteria and fear than warranted. 

[gowlerk 2,241]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

While I can appreciate the eloquence of your statement, the nature of the situation was misrepresented by the first media outlet, and the second, before a third posted the real situation. Looking at it from a different perspective, media one and two created more hysteria and fear than warranted. 

I find it somewhat telling that even you acknowledge that an ICE enforcement team justifies more hysteria than one responding to a possible active shooter.

[BIGUN 1,393]

4 hours ago, gowlerk said:

I find it somewhat telling that even you acknowledge that an ICE enforcement team justifies more hysteria than one responding to a possible active shooter.

Scaring/hurting children for any reason kinda sets me off. 

[JoeWeber 2,807]

7 hours ago, BIGUN said:

While I can appreciate the eloquence of your statement, the nature of the situation was misrepresented by the first media outlet, and the second, before a third posted the real situation. Looking at it from a different perspective, media one and two created more hysteria and fear than warranted. 

The nature of the situation is that we have for too long been living in a nascent, militarized, police state where many are no longer comfortable interacting with those hired to "serve and protect", me included, so it should be no surprise that people freak out at the sight of a Black Maria and fear the worst. I humbly submit that some, quite reasonably, consider the worst these days to be having your kids captured and taken away perhaps never to be seen again. But that forced perception by some groups is Trumps America. 

[BIGUN 1,393]

35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

no longer comfortable interacting with those hired to "serve and protect", me included,

Ditto

35 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

so it should be no surprise that people freak out at the sight of a Black Maria and fear the worst. I humbly submit that some, quite reasonably, consider the worst these days to be having your kids captured and taken away perhaps never to be seen again. But that forced perception by some groups is Trumps America. 

Joe, I spent 20 years of my life throwing my ass into the fire. Here we are in Act III of our lives and I feel frustrated like those 20 were wasted. This is not where or how we should be.    

[JoeWeber 2,807]

3 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Ditto

Joe, I spent 20 years of my life throwing my ass into the fire. Here we are in Act III of our lives and I feel frustrated like those 20 were wasted. This is not where or how we should be.    

I can only guess at your frustration but I have no doubt about it. Just how he is so cavalier about destroying the careers of accomplished military leaders, not to mention installing a Fox News talking head as DoD secretary, must be enough to do the job much less all else. These are not interesting times: these are very fucked up times.

[kallend 2,099]

42 minutes ago, JoeWeber said:

I can only guess at your frustration but I have no doubt about it. Just how he is so cavalier about destroying the careers of accomplished military leaders, not to mention installing a Fox News talking head as DoD secretary, must be enough to do the job much less all else. These are not interesting times: these are very fucked up times.

Competence has nothing to do with it. The primary qualification for a cabinet post seems to be a willingness to bend over and say "put it there". 

[David Wang 64]

Sounds like the school and the media messed up, but I'm glad the children are safe. 

[normiss 843]

8 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Ditto

Joe, I spent 20 years of my life throwing my ass into the fire. Here we are in Act III of our lives and I feel frustrated like those 20 were wasted. This is not where or how we should be.    

That oath is a choking, talking, sometimes yelling, bug in my mind. As well as some other veterans I've talked to lately.

This is hard. It hurts.

[BIGUN 1,393]

6 hours ago, normiss said:

That oath is a choking, talking, sometimes yelling, bug in my mind. As well as some other veterans I've talked to lately.

This is hard. It hurts.

Agreed. This is not the future I envisioned. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,421]

7 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Agreed. This is not the future I envisioned. 

Hi Keith,

None of us did. 

And, some of us voted for Kamala Harris so we would not have to face this type of crap; too bad you did not.

Jerry Baumchen

[jakee 1,556]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

And, some of us voted for Kamala Harris so we would not have to face this type of crap; 

This is why I struggle to have any sympathy at all for those who voted for him but are now saying "well I never thought he'd do this" because the only response I can think of is "why not?" 

I guess it's why, as repulsive as it is, there's a certain directness to Winsor's attitude that is at least understandable and consistent. As long as 'the commies' aren't in charge and there's enough old timey racism being perpetrated he literally doesn't give a fuck about anything else. But for everyone currently showing the tregret? I have no idea what they ever thought was going to happen.

[JoeWeber 2,807]

8 minutes ago, jakee said:

I have no idea what they ever thought was going to happen.

Sure you do: they thought the leopards would eat other faces and only the libtards ox's would be gored. I, for one, just love these I didn't think for a second it would happen to me stories: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/12/2315407/-MAGA-propaganda-is-a-hell-of-a-drug?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_2&pm_medium=web

[BIGUN 1,393]

1 hour ago, JerryBaumchen said:

some of us voted for Kamala Harris so we would not have to face this type of crap; too bad you did not.

"Some" being the operative word, Jerry. Consider my vote a protest vote.  

[JerryBaumchen 1,421]

13 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

"Some" being the operative word, Jerry. Consider my vote a protest vote.  

Hi Keith,

Since I have the choice; I'll call it a nothing vote.

Jerry Baumchen

PS)  I have always said that I have almost never voted when one choice was a really good option.  Almost always it is the lesser of two evils.  C'est la vie.

[JoeWeber 2,807]

39 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

"Some" being the operative word, Jerry. Consider my vote a protest vote.  

Fair enough. But as things have played out would you prefer now that Harris was our President?

[BIGUN 1,393]

1 hour ago, JoeWeber said:

But as things have played out would you prefer now that Harris was our President?

The Democratic party could have done things differently to have garnered my vote. And, as Jerry says, we all made our choices - and lost. 

[jakee 1,556]

7 minutes ago, BIGUN said:

The Democratic party could have done things differently to have garnered my vote. 

Without even hinting at what those things are that's a very something and nothing statement though, isn't it?

It's technically true to say that over here the Tory party could have done things differently at the last election to get my vote... but if the things I mean are 'adopt the policies of the 1990's Labour party'  then what I really mean is that there was no possible scenario in which I was going to vote for them.

[JoeWeber 2,807]

1 hour ago, BIGUN said:

The Democratic party could have done things differently to have garnered my vote. And, as Jerry says, we all made our choices - and lost. 

Allow me to rephrase: Fair enough. But as things have played out would you prefer now that Harris was our President instead of Trump?

[nigel99 558]

5 hours ago, jakee said:

This is why I struggle to have any sympathy at all for those who voted for him but are now saying "well I never thought he'd do this" because the only response I can think of is "why not?" 

I guess it's why, as repulsive as it is, there's a certain directness to Winsor's attitude that is at least understandable and consistent. As long as 'the commies' aren't in charge and there's enough old timey racism being perpetrated he literally doesn't give a fuck about anything else. But for everyone currently showing the tregret? I have no idea what they ever thought was going to happen.

I still believe that voting independent like Keith did is not the same as voting for Trump or not voting at all.