The precedents you set

[billvon 3,070]

I think that something that many Trump supporters miss is that any increase in power in the presidency goes both ways.

They cheer when Trump, for example, deports legal US citizens, defunds universities that do not follow government mantra, ignores parts of the Constitution and uses the FBI as a tool for revenge because all of that is "owning the libs."

But that sort of power doesn't "go away" once someone else is in power.  Imagine a new democratic president that declares an emergency and creates, via executive order, a requirement that anyone who wants to own a gun get a federal license, to save the thousands of children that are killed every year by firearms.  They are not violating the second amendment - heavens no! - because anyone can still get a gun as long as they get a license.  Of course, in order to save money, there won't be many places to get that license; having a lot of licensing centers is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

Or an emergency ban on gasoline/diesel for any vehicles over 4000 lbs due to the climate emergency.  There will be exceptions granted, of course, as long as the person can prove their need.  Like politicians who need armored limos and democratic contributors who have proven their loyalty to the government.

Then an executive order (titled something like "protecting your vote from electoral crime") that bans criminals from voting.  Which, of course, include people who own guns but aren't licensed, or people who still drive those over-4000 lb vehicles.  Anyone can still register to vote, as long as you can demonstrate you are not one of those criminals.

Power doesn't go away because "well, we didn't mean for them to do THAT with it!"

[JerryBaumchen 1,436]

2 hours ago, billvon said:

I think that something that many Trump supporters miss is that any increase in power in the presidency goes both ways.

They cheer when Trump, for example, deports legal US citizens, defunds universities that do not follow government mantra, ignores parts of the Constitution and uses the FBI as a tool for revenge because all of that is "owning the libs."

But that sort of power doesn't "go away" once someone else is in power.  Imagine a new democratic president that declares an emergency and creates, via executive order, a requirement that anyone who wants to own a gun get a federal license, to save the thousands of children that are killed every year by firearms.  They are not violating the second amendment - heavens no! - because anyone can still get a gun as long as they get a license.  Of course, in order to save money, there won't be many places to get that license; having a lot of licensing centers is a waste of taxpayer dollars.

Or an emergency ban on gasoline/diesel for any vehicles over 4000 lbs due to the climate emergency.  There will be exceptions granted, of course, as long as the person can prove their need.  Like politicians who need armored limos and democratic contributors who have proven their loyalty to the government.

Then an executive order (titled something like "protecting your vote from electoral crime") that bans criminals from voting.  Which, of course, include people who own guns but aren't licensed, or people who still drive those over-4000 lb vehicles.  Anyone can still register to vote, as long as you can demonstrate you are not one of those criminals.

Power doesn't go away because "well, we didn't mean for them to do THAT with it!"

Hi Bill,

THAT is exactly why Mitch McConnell is not a Trump supporter.  He knows that one day, the other guys will have the same power[s].

Jerry Baumchen

[wmw999 2,534]

They kept screaming about how Obama was taking too much power, turning himself into a king. But they were taking lessons the whole time.

Obama didn’t take the guns (didn’t even try), but Trump is taking all kinds of other control

Wendy P. 

[JerryBaumchen 1,436]

1 hour ago, wmw999 said:

They kept screaming about how Obama was taking too much power, turning himself into a king. But they were taking lessons the whole time.

Obama didn’t take the guns (didn’t even try), but Trump is taking all kinds of other control

Wendy P. 

Hi Wendy,

And, he has just started.

“Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.”

Bette Davis ~ Fasten your seat belts..it's going to be a bumpy night

Jerry Baumchen

[nigel99 568]

3 hours ago, wmw999 said:

They kept screaming about how Obama was taking too much power, turning himself into a king. But they were taking lessons the whole time.

Obama didn’t take the guns (didn’t even try), but Trump is taking all kinds of other control

Wendy P. 

Don’t worry he’ll take the guns. I don’t think it’s far away

[BIGUN 1,406]

6 hours ago, billvon said:

But that sort of power doesn't "go away" once someone else is in power. 

You mean like if he usurps the 22nd Amendment, the Dems might use that too? Hey Bill, Obama, you want back in the game? :) 

[normiss 851]

6 hours ago, nigel99 said:

Don’t worry he’ll take the guns. I don’t think it’s far away

Yet it's been proven that live bullets do not wound nor kill our Great Felon.

The healing is like nothing the world has ever seen. People are like SIR! You grew an entire new ear! You can't see any fake injury ANYWHERE! It's a miracle!! <insert cult jebus donations here add shipto:chinesecrap>cultmembers

But wait there's MOAR!!! The jebus miracle happened a second time and the libruhl assassin was unable to even lift his weapon to fire!!

Just wait. There's gonna be a big boom.

 

 

//s

 

[jakee 1,563]

8 hours ago, BIGUN said:

You mean like if he usurps the 22nd Amendment, the Dems might use that too? Hey Bill, Obama, you want back in the game? :) 

The Supreme Court has already ruled that Constitutional bars cannot stop a candidate standing for President if he's really really popular.

[kallend 2,106]

On 4/15/2025 at 12:35 PM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Bill,

THAT is exactly why Mitch McConnell is not a Trump supporter.  He knows that one day, the other guys will have the same power[s].

Jerry Baumchen

"In the long run we're all dead"; John Maynard Keynes.