pushing w/l limits

[ridebmxbikes 0]

So my exit weight is about 150. I found out my dz has a 365sf sport rig. My question is, whats the lightest wing loading you can get away with in say no winds?

P.S. I did do a search, didnt really find anything.

[woppyvac 0]

365? thats tandemesque... did u have a typo?

Woot Woot!

[ridebmxbikes 0]

No typo, they call it the big boy rig.

[BillyVance 34]

As long as there are zero winds at any altitude, you shouldn't have a problem jumping any big canopy, though you'll probably still be in the air by the time the next load starts opening...

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Quagmirian 40]

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My question is, whats the lightest wing loading you can get away with in say no winds?

Some manufacturers do have minimum wing loading limits. Icarus, as far as I know, recommends loadings no lighter than 0.5:1.

[ChrisD 0]

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As long as there are zero winds at any altitude, you shouldn't have a problem jumping any big canopy, though you'll probably still be in the air by the time the next load starts opening...

Loaded question, big cause for concern here, Billy is spot on!

But exit wheight 150 ?? How much do you actually wheigh? Big boy rigs can add up to 35 - 40 lbs! ?

And there are never (Don't take my head off here,) there are never no wind days!

This in statistics would be known as an outlier, and allthough something about this seems ok, my gut is telling me that somewhere this is very bad??? Although for the life of me I can't remember why??? At the moment.

C

Not that I support cameras and jumping in the same sentance, but take some pictures, I'd like to see this???
Are we playing around with the Brian Germain disscusion point here?? Am I wrong or is this the issue which drove him to start making airlocks?

Good luck, please stay safe!

But what do I know, "I only have one tandem jump."

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Haha, yeah i guess that would push my exit weight up to about 160 to 170. Maybe id have to get off jump run or do it at sunset and bring a flash light and a cell phone?

[Calvin19 0]

I have jumped a 320 big boy student rig exit weight of 170. Still above .5/1 but it was not a problem. Front riser forward speed was pretty low.
If there is no wind, not a big deal. Just slow. If they let you do it, go for it.

Also jumped a 350' BASE canopy in Twin Falls. Not a problem. Exit weight was probably about 160. Swooped it and everything. NBD.

-SPACE-

[GLIDEANGLE 1]

If you jump that.... take lunch along.

The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others!

[BillyVance 34]

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If you jump that.... take lunch along.

Especially if you hit a heat thermal draft.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Haha, thats exactly what im looking for!

[pchapman 279]

Tandem rigs sometimes get jumped solo, such as when someone is becoming a tandem instructor or is getting current again after a long time. While sizes do vary, some common ones are 365 or 370 ft sq.

You just wouldn't fly something at a super low loading in turbulent or high winds. (High uppers aren't that bad ... as long as you can spot.)

[ksudiver87 0]

back in my student days i jumped a 260 w/l at 0.3 my wind limit was 7mph otherwise i would land backwards and i wouldnt need to flare. when instinc took over and i did flare, i'd float 4ft. I did enjoy the 10 minute canopy ride though :)

~Always do stupid things safely~

[chuckakers 426]

This isn't really any different than Tandem Instructor candidates who must make at least one solo jump on tandem equipment before taking eval passengers (unless that's changed since I tugged on 421 toggles).

Just check your winds aloft to be sure you won't end up in the next county.

Chuck Akers
D-10855
Houston, TX

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Hey chuck! Yeah, didnt think about people do in on tandem rigs solo. Also gonna miss the boogie this weekend, yall still owe me a ceremony!

[FlyingRhenquest 1]

Bwahaha! Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

The big rig they put me on when I started was a 300. I'm down to a 230 now, which is just about 1:1 for my exit weight. I've lost a fair bit of weight since July!

But I was thinking, hmm, I could grab that 300 sometime in the summer, do a high pull at 11000 feet and see how long it takes to get down. That might be fun! Or... it might be boring. Heh heh.

It kind of sounds like what you really want is a paraglider.

I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here?

[ridebmxbikes 0]

I do want a paraglider but i live on stupid flat ground. Thats why i want to try a really big one, just to see how long i can keep it up!

[monkycndo 0]

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Thats why i want to try a really big one, just to see how long i can keep it up!

That is just too easy. Not even worth the effort.

50 donations so far. Give it a try.

You know you want to spank it
Jump an Infinity

[chuckakers 426]

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Hey chuck! Yeah, didnt think about people do in on tandem rigs solo. Also gonna miss the boogie this weekend, yall still owe me a ceremony!

Anytime, brotha!

Chuck Akers
D-10855
Houston, TX

[FlyingRhenquest 1]

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I do want a paraglider but i live on stupid flat ground. Thats why i want to try a really big one, just to see how long i can keep it up!

Pff! That didn't stop my hang gliding group in North Carolina! They had a rig they built out of a motorcycle wheel and a couple thousand feet of steel cable. They'd find a runway somewhere, mount the glider up on the rig, and haul the rig down the runway, flying the glider like a kite in the process! Once they got to altitude, they could catch a thermal and fly off -- my instructor made it 40 miles to the coast one day and landed at the Wilmington International Airport! I guess technically he wasn't supposed to do that, but it's a lot easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Heh heh heh.

A couple guys over at the airport fly powered paragliders around. That looks fairly neat, too.

I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here?

[riggerrob 643]

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This isn't really any different than Tandem Instructor candidates who must make at least one solo jump on tandem equipment before taking eval passengers (unless that's changed since I tugged on 421 toggles).

Just check your winds aloft to be sure you won't end up in the next county.

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Last spring I did a solo jump wearing a Sigma container and an Ikarus 330 canopy.
That was part of my training to earn a Sigma TI rating.

Mind you, I already had more than 4,000 tandem jumps on canopies made by: Jump Shack, Parachutes de France, Performance Designs, Pioneer, Strong and a Russian-rigger-who-did-not-speak-English ....

[sky12345 0]

u can also deploy your reserve into biplane config to get 0.2 wl
at this wl u can prob do standup landing even in downplane
just ask ppl at lz not to breath or fart as it may collapse your chutes

[hookitt 1]

y u so bad at rl words?

My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto

[ctrph8 0]

Or punctuation... Or capital letters.

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u can also deploy your reserve into biplane config to get 0.2 wl
at this wl u can prob do standup landing even in downplane
just ask ppl at lz not to breath or fart as it may collapse your chutes

[BillyVance 34]

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y u so bad at rl words?

Probably typing from his phone.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban