girthy 0 #1 February 7, 2013 Team Qatar, some of you guys are real pricks dragging your feet to hold the plane pretending not to see the lights so your spot is right over the dz, pushing the rest of us long (even the pilot said, watch these guys, i dont trust them) s turns on final, and continuing to s turn even after being told not to. laughing at the "no s turns" sign totally disregarding landing patterns. giving the office staff crap for wanting to check rigs walking across the landing area and not looking over and over. I watched 8 of you guys walk across and cut a swooper off. that poor bastard was screaming and you clowns were too busy flapping your jaws. after he landed, you jerks laughed. what is wrong with you? you were all standing still when he started his 180, and the minute he started, you clowns started walking. You guys were in the wrong! furthermore, you are lucky he was very skilled, you gave him a 5 foot isle and he did it. felt bad for people who showed up monday when they did Other then team Qatar, Eloy dz and staff rocks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 February 7, 2013 Is that the right spelling? Qutar? Sure its not Qatar, like a national team from there? What kind of team is it?"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #3 February 7, 2013 Is this military jumpers from Qatar? I visited Deland a few years back when they were doing a training for a bunch of military officers from there. I only visited for a short while, but I don't recall any problems. I guess Eloy has the contract now."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
girthy 0 #4 February 7, 2013 Your spelling could be correct. They were RW team. Probably 20 of them?? Launching 4ways with camera. If you got on a load with 2 four ways plan on pulling high to make it back Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #5 February 7, 2013 pilot should gave you a go around.Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airgump 1 #6 February 7, 2013 was in perris when they were there, much the same experience. one of their instructors even landed opposite of the the pattern on the grass with not much punishment levied from the DZ staff, if memory serves he was banished from jumping the rest of the day, maybe 1 or 2 loads went up following this incident. out of pure self defense i tried to stay off loads that they were on or settled for hop-n-pops and landed in the north field. what added insult to the whole debacle was that the bomb shelter gladly removed pork from their menu the duration of their visit. what a crock of crap. would be interested if eloy did the same....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3mpire 0 #7 February 7, 2013 they are probably a cash cow and know it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #8 February 7, 2013 Should have brought chocolate covered bacon treats to the DZ for everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #9 February 7, 2013 Quote Should have brought chocolate covered bacon treats to the DZ for everyone. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airgump 1 #10 February 7, 2013 yeah, something down scotty carbone's alley if the legend is correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #11 February 7, 2013 Quote Should have brought chocolate covered bacon treats to the DZ for everyone. Free hotdogs for everyone! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #12 February 7, 2013 Boycott their ass. If they want to act like a A-holes, payback is a bitchWhen their team is the only group that manifests for their loads they might have to wait a while if eloy wants their plane to T.O. with a full load.It's your money and you don'thave to put up with their crapIf they haven't been Burked yet or ignored himThen there's no stopping them. Unless there's a full DZ wide boycott. Enjoy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #13 February 7, 2013 Next time you see them acting like assholes, get everybody else together, have them take their shoes off, then attack the Qataris with the shoes and run them off. It's their ultimate insult. I got nothing else... "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shredex 0 #14 February 7, 2013 They were here in Z-hill a few months ago. Takes them around 16 seconds to get a 4 way out once the green light goes on. They bring multiple rigs each so they are hoping onto just about every single load. It was land, rip off rig, throw on another, and hold up plane while they throw on their leg straps. I didn't notice them being ass-holes at all. I never even saw them speaking. They were dirt-diving constintally. I couldn't even get one to check my pin before a hop-n-pop because they were all in dreamland. Luckily their camera flyer was there to check me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillson 0 #15 February 7, 2013 Like Josh above...never had a real problem with them at ZHills (seen them two different occasions over the last year or so). Granted, a "now" call was sort of a...drag your feet and we will get to the plane when we get there call. But that is a minor annoyance. They kept the Otters turning all day, every day - even during the crap slow months. Was pretty good $ for the packers too - so good for them. A large percentage of the time they were getting out at competition altitude so no worries about jump run (or landings). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #16 February 8, 2013 it sucks when people have a bad attititude and spoil your fun. If it is a national team, send a polite profanity free email to their embassy or sports ministry. Nobody wants their country portrayed badly. My only other comment is, only YOU are resposible for your spot. If they have screwed it, a go around or stay in if you aren't happy.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallidin 0 #17 February 8, 2013 Quote Boycott their ass. If they want to act like a A-holes, payback is a bitchWhen their team is the only group that manifests for their loads they might have to wait a while if eloy wants their plane to T.O. with a full load.It's your money and you don'thave to put up with their crapIf they haven't been Burked yet or ignored himThen there's no stopping them. Unless there's a full DZ wide boycott. Enjoy Then all the boycotting skydivers will be accused of being racists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallidin 0 #18 February 8, 2013 Quoteonly YOU are resposible for your spot. If they have screwed it, a go around or stay in if you aren't happy. Some pilots/drop zones won't give you a go around due to the wasted money and time. You either get out where you are, or ride the plane down and waste your jump ticket. That's an unacceptable choice. The DZO needs to have a serious talk with them about cooperating for everyone's good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #19 February 8, 2013 I've been to a few DZ's in the US only seen one DZ give a go around . The other DZ's have customers waiting and need to be as efficent as possible to keep the costs down for everyone.At one boogie in a north western state we were told once we manifested for a load ,and the winds picked up to bad so sad no refunds allowed.On A happy note they were nice enough to tell us before we manifested. We thought about it for less than 1 second before making our decision.. With the number of jumps the folks from Qatar, were pumping out and the $$$$ spent on tunnel time. I don't think the DZO gives a rats ass about some whining fun jumpers. The DZO knew what was going on. A friend and I boycoted a couple of loads once at a certain DZ. On one load the DZO kept the plane on the ground for a good hr. Manifest kept on repeating over the PA we need two more jumpers to fill before it can T.O.R. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pacific 0 #20 February 8, 2013 Quote Quote Boycott their ass. If they want to act like a A-holes, payback is a bitchWhen their team is the only group that manifests for their loads they might have to wait a while if eloy wants their plane to T.O. with a full load.It's your money and you don'thave to put up with their crapIf they haven't been Burked yet or ignored himThen there's no stopping them. Unless there's a full DZ wide boycott. Enjoy Then all the boycotting skydivers will be accused of being racists. So what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 8 #21 February 8, 2013 Quote pretending not to see the lights so your spot is right over the dz, pushing the rest of us long (even the pilot said, watch these guys, i dont trust them) When I have that problem, I tell the pilot to flip the lights on early. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #22 February 8, 2013 Quote Quote pretending not to see the lights so your spot is right over the dz, pushing the rest of us long (even the pilot said, watch these guys, i dont trust them) When I have that problem, I tell the pilot to flip the lights on early. One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #23 February 8, 2013 QuoteQuoteonly YOU are resposible for your spot. If they have screwed it, a go around or stay in if you aren't happy. Some pilots/drop zones won't give you a go around due to the wasted money and time. You either get out where you are, or ride the plane down and waste your jump ticket. That's an unacceptable choice. The DZO needs to have a serious talk with them about cooperating for everyone's good. My point still stands. You can choose to ride the plane down. Nobody forces you to have a long spot.Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocPop 1 #24 February 8, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteonly YOU are resposible for your spot. If they have screwed it, a go around or stay in if you aren't happy. Some pilots/drop zones won't give you a go around due to the wasted money and time. You either get out where you are, or ride the plane down and waste your jump ticket. That's an unacceptable choice. The DZO needs to have a serious talk with them about cooperating for everyone's good. My point still stands. You can choose to ride the plane down. Nobody forces you to have a long spot. And if you get a long spot, pull a little higher and learn to fly a canopy to maximise your glide. Besides, at Eloy don't 4-way teams get out on a separate pass at 10,500?"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls." ~ CanuckInUSA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnmatrix 21 #25 February 8, 2013 Quote Quote Should have brought chocolate covered bacon treats to the DZ for everyone. Free hotdogs for everyone! Yeah but there's no pork in them. No chicken either. And no beef. Oh yeah and it's not lamb or mutton... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
