Karen89 0 #1 November 17, 2012 Well today I did my 2nd solo IAD jump.One of the skydivers there gave me a pair of gloves and my instructor said they would work fineI was fine in the plane, had my nerves under control even when the door opened. I was stepping out on the step, getting ready to dangle...as soon as my feet started to dangle I felt my hands slip off....damn GLOVES! I was pretty pissed..Probably scared the heck out of my instructor cause she didn't even tell me to go. Had a rough landing..tried to land on my feet and I did but it was so hard my knee basically hit my chin...well it was a good skydive because I walked away and will be another story to tell one day. They told me I should find gloves...but I'm not sure where to look. I'm weird about spending money and I don't want the same thing to happen again next time I go. Btw, first time I went I didn't have gloves and I was able to dangle with no problem...But they said after a certain temperature the USPA requires gloves...Any suggestions?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amyr 0 #2 November 17, 2012 Quoteafter a certain temperature the USPA requires gloves Did not know this anyone know the required temperature? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karen89 0 #3 November 17, 2012 Pretty sure they said 40...but maybe that is just for students? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #4 November 17, 2012 The "go to" gloves for skydiving are Newman's. But, they are apparently stopping to make them. They are what's called "tackified" which means the leather palm is slightly sticky. Square 1 makes knockoffs, ut they are slightly less tacky. You could also get football receiver's gloves. Some are VERY tackified. Stay away for thick gloves. They hamper your feel.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #5 November 18, 2012 Quote Pretty sure they said 40...but maybe that is just for students? Somebody was pulling your leg. My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #6 November 18, 2012 Quote Had a rough landing..tried to land on my feet and I did but it was so hard my knee basically hit my chin... You might want to review PLFs and give it some more practice. Congrats on #2!!!!!My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karen89 0 #7 November 18, 2012 Yeah definitely need to practice more PLF. When we did the day of the class it was hard for me to get down. I'm a lady, I'm too pretty to fall :D hehe jk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #8 November 18, 2012 There are lots of options for gloves. I and many others use baseball batting gloves. Some argue against tackified gloves. Definitely avoid gloves that have insulation between the inner and outer layer ()like ski gloves) that allow motion between the layers. The search function will give you more than enough opinions to consider: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=forum_6&search_string=gloves&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=&sb=score&mh=25People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dthames 0 #9 November 18, 2012 SIM 5-3 K. b. Gloves are essential when the jump altitude temperature is lower than 40° F.Instructor quote, “What's weird is that you're older than my dad!” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #10 November 19, 2012 Hi 89 Your instuctor forgot to tell you to spit on the gloves before you grabbed hold of the strut. It's part of red neck jumping in the cold One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #11 November 19, 2012 I haven't found warm gloves I really like. I'm a fan of neoprene, but none of the sporting good stores around here carry any. Or really any good gloves at all, really. I think this is why the Internet is killing retail. I usually use a pair of bionic weight lifting gloves. They're not particularly warm, but they don't get in the way of my skydive either. I also got some a grip master and powerball hand exerciser when I started the sport. I figured it might be a good idea to have a solid death grip in skydiving! It helps when I'm climbing around on the outside of the king air like a spider monkey. Plus, if you meet one of those people who thinks handshakes are a competition, you can crush their bones. Bonus! As for your landing, it's hard to say without looking at it. I'm sure it's a great idea to take landing advice from random people on the internet, too. With that in mind, it's usually either that you flared too high or didn't flare hard enough. I assume they don't talk you down on the radio, or you could just ask them what you did wrong. Did you have a good idea of wind direction when you came down? Maybe you could get a friend or another skydiver to video a landing? You can get away with a good bit if you have a decent PLF. If you're not comfortable with it, find some place open and padded and practice it. Maybe even intentionally PLF your next couple of landings so you can do it like it's second nature when you need to. Eventually you'll know within a split second of flaring if you need to or not. A few generic pointers I've picked up on landing: - Arms all the way up on approach. You want to save your power for your flare, and braking will only mess that up. - Always be ready to PLF. - Take a canopy course ASAP after you get out of training. If they'll let you do it during your coaching jumps prior to your A license, do it. Good canopy skills could save your life one day. Dangerous advice removedI'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeonLights 0 #12 November 19, 2012 Square 1 gloves have good grip. Almost sticky brand new. Unfortunately i keep losing them, im on my 5th set in 5 weeks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karen89 0 #13 November 19, 2012 I'm going to start working out way more! The only part of my body that hurts today is my left arm. I have little bruises on both shoulders, but my shoulders don't hurt. Thought I would be limping today from that landing, but I iced my ankle on and off last night and it's fine today. I'm pretty lucky. I'll admit I freaked out yesterday, was a little shaken from my hands slipping. I didn't even arch so that's probably what the shoulder bruises are from. I never look at the ground while coming closer to it. I felt like I was coming in too fast and flared too early but kept my arms down. My instructor said that I flared a few seconds before I was supposed to. I don't remember the wind direction but yesterday the winds were 4-6 mph. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #14 November 19, 2012 It's only your 2nd jump, don't be too hard on yourself. No big deal slipping off the strut. That's what you're up there to do! As an instructor, I couldn't care less. Women tend to have smaller hands than men. If the back edge of the strut is against your wrist when you hang, that's a lever fulcrum prying your fingers off the strut. I can hang all over a C-182 like a monkey but once fell off the strut of a much larger aircraft because of that very effect. There was no damn way I could hang on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #15 November 19, 2012 Quote Do no let go once you start your flare. If you realize you flared too high, punch it all the way down, hold it and PLF. Stop giving lousy advice! That MAY work out OK if a person is using a canopy that is really big and can't be stalled, but it is terrible advice if not.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #16 November 19, 2012 QuoteI never look at the ground while coming closer to it. That was proper procedure for students landing round parachutes (looking straight out at the horizon), but you won't be standing up your landings unless you change that. Talk to your instructors on how to do it.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #17 November 19, 2012 QuoteQuote Do no let go once you start your flare. If you realize you flared too high, punch it all the way down, hold it and PLF. Stop giving lousy advice! That MAY work out OK if a person is using a canopy that is really big and can't be stalled, but it is terrible advice if not. You mean like a student canopy? The kind a student might be flying?I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastRon 0 #18 November 19, 2012 I used to use leather handball gloves. An inexpensive glove we use here at work is a nitrile foam coated woven synthetic glove from "Advanced Gloves" Not particularly warm but prevents conduction heat loss and has a very secure grip with good feel. They appear to run a little small but are pretty stretchy. No idea where we get them but we buy cases of them, so they have to be out there somewhere... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skywombat 0 #19 November 19, 2012 I've heard the advice about batting gloves as well. Personally I am a fan of these: http://www.sportchalet.com/product/shop+by+sport/baseball+-+softball/batting+gloves/301602_3011245.do?sortby=newArrivals&page=2 I like these because they are relatively thin and do a decent job of keeping the cold out. Your mileage / personal preference may vary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 #20 November 19, 2012 I wear scuba gloves. Leather on the palm and the wet suit stuff on the outside, they are warm, never slipped while "dangling". Also, never gave me a bad landing. Did chop the finger tips off thoguh for the cam, and just a better feel for the smaller stuff. Also, I would suggest you wear your gloves for a day or two before you jump with them. Makes you comfy about it.You have the right to your opinion, and I have the right to tell you how Fu***** stupid it is. Davelepka - "This isn't an x-box, or a Chevy truck forum" Whatever you do, don't listen to ChrisD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Karen89 0 #21 November 19, 2012 Thanks everyone for the advice. Though I am going to talk to my instructors just to be safe :P. I'm gonna go look at gloves today. :) don't wanna be out of the sky for too long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #22 November 19, 2012 QuoteQuoteQuote Do no let go once you start your flare. If you realize you flared too high, punch it all the way down, hold it and PLF. Stop giving lousy advice! That MAY work out OK if a person is using a canopy that is really big and can't be stalled, but it is terrible advice if not. You mean like a student canopy? The kind a student might be flying? Even if you know someone is a student using a student canopy, you don't know whether they can stall it. The "punch it" part is also wrong.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #23 November 19, 2012 Quote Square 1 gloves have good grip. Almost sticky brand new. Unfortunately i keep losing them, im on my 5th set in 5 weeks. In the realm of tackified gloves, they have the least. Don't get me wrong, they work fine (I'm cheap, so they are the ones I always get), but they dont compare to Newman's or football gloves for tack. And to the OP: don't sweat it. As Johnmitchell said, IAD instructors are ready to dispatch you the second they have your PC in their hand. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #24 November 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Quote Do no let go once you start your flare. If you realize you flared too high, punch it all the way down, hold it and PLF. Stop giving lousy advice! That MAY work out OK if a person is using a canopy that is really big and can't be stalled, but it is terrible advice if not. You mean like a student canopy? The kind a student might be flying? Even if you know someone is a student using a student canopy, you don't know whether they can stall it. The "punch it" part is also wrong. Yeah yeah, I also seem to remember a disclaimer about taking landing advice from people on the internet but I find that the student and rental canopies I'm on, you pretty much have to do that. I need to wrap the steering lines around my hands 4 times to even come close to stalling them, or get on the rear risers. I've had to be quite forceful to get a decent flare out of those canopies. I also have to lean forward -- I've put the toggles where they told me to in ground school and been told by people on the ground that I didn't flare at all. Once I get my own rig and canopy I'm going to have to do a high pull jump and lots of practice flares and canopy stalls, to work my way out of that habit. I also plan to take another canopy course at that point.I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hchunter614 0 #25 November 19, 2012 Actually staring at the ground causes ground rush and many students flare too high or too fast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
