Bodhisattva420 0 #1 October 2, 2011 What's the softest opening canopy you've jumped? I'm looking to buy a new canopy and noticed the last thread on this topic is from 2005. Post away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 October 2, 2011 Kind of a toss up for me between a Spectre with Dacron and a Storm with Dacron. I think the Storm was a bit better.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #3 October 2, 2011 Okay, I'll bite. The softest openings I've ever had were from the PD Spectre and Aerodyne's Pilot, both of which I have owned. The opening is like falling over backwards into bed, though both involve a good snivel. The Pilot's snivel is not so bad, the Spectre's is infamous (as in take along a good crossword puzzle....). My Pilot seems to open in 500 - 600 ft, the Spectre might take up to 800. While we're on the topic, think about your reserve at terminal. PD makes two excellent reserves, the "old" PD Reserve, and the new Optimum. I've dumped both at terminal (a PD Reserve after a pilot chute in tow malfunction) and the Optimum as a main canopy for a demo jump. Both give you very quick, but quite comfortable openings, which is what you need from a reserve (the Optimum is incredible by the way and worth every penny of the higher price - you may change main canopies often, but a reserve is usually a long term keeper). Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigless 0 #4 October 2, 2011 Safire2"All limits are self imposed." Icarus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #5 October 2, 2011 for me, Icarus Crossfire2, and then Icarus Safire2. If your profile is up to date I would recommend a Safire2 at an adapted wingloading.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likestojump 3 #6 October 2, 2011 Crossfire2 opened really nice. Competition (or H-modded) Cobalt with HMA lines opened really well. But neither are good for a beginner. People seem to like Pilots and Safire2's. If you get a Pilot I would try to go with HMA rather than Spectra lines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Decodiver 0 #7 October 2, 2011 Crossfire 2 is a dream at the right wingloading, with your experience I'd say a PD Storm I had one at 1:1 and it opened great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 October 2, 2011 QuoteWhat's the softest opening canopy you've jumped? I'm looking to buy a new canopy and noticed the last thread on this topic is from 2005. Post away! I would have to say.. my old school PISA now Aerodyne Triathlon. I liked my old one so much that I bought a whole new rig to upsize to a new one for when my shoulder heals enough to jump again. Nice soft openings... nice soft landings... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrmrangers 0 #9 October 2, 2011 My spectre opens super soft, sometimes scary soft, 1200 foot opening arent uncommon Wait , I pull what first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #10 October 2, 2011 Quote My spectre opens super soft, sometimes scary soft, 1200 foot opening arent uncommon Doesn't anyone try unstowing the brakes when it takes so long? A very long time ago I had a canopy that seemed to not open until I did that, or at least I should say I never let it just go on sniveling for over 1000 feet. That was back when canopies never sniveled for long.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 October 2, 2011 QuoteWhat's the softest opening canopy you've jumped? Ever? Probably a ragged-out T-10, back when I was 115 lbs. I can get you one, cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrmrangers 0 #12 October 2, 2011 i pop the breaks pretty much every jump!! still get damn near 1000 foot openings!Wait , I pull what first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #13 October 2, 2011 Quote i pop the breaks pretty much every jump!! still get damn near 1000 foot openings! Don't confuse soft with slow... Personally, I wouldn't like a canopy that took 1000' to open every time. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrmrangers 0 #14 October 2, 2011 luckily im still conservative with my deployment altitude so i havent had an issue yet. Its not 1000 feet every time but its never quick, or hard for that matter.Wait , I pull what first? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racerman 0 #15 October 2, 2011 Without a doubt hands down is the Jump Shacks Firebolt. It's a elliptical canopy available in various sizes. Call and ask Nancy for a demo canopy to jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #16 October 2, 2011 That would have to be the original Unit. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #17 October 3, 2011 A note on soft opening canopies--ANY canopy can open very hard. I feel confident in saying that there isn't a modern canopy that hasn't hammered someone. I have a few hundred spectre jumps, and one was a crusher. I hung in the saddle a while after opening. After landing I just sat there a while. I recommend a Pilot as a solid performer, with very consistent, soft openings. Again, no canopy is immune. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bodhisattva420 0 #18 October 3, 2011 Have you jumped a Sabre II before? I've been hearing really good things about the Spectre but was wondering how it compares to the Sabre II. I rented a Sabre II 170 @ the DZ one weekend when I was getting my canopy relined, and it opened REALLY soft, had some slider hang up ... wouldn't mind having some slider hang up every now and then! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #19 October 3, 2011 The first canopy I ever had that was mine: 7 cell Triathlon 210, the second canopy: 7 cell Triathlon 190; My third canopy: PISA Hornet 170, 7 cell semi elipitacal. All of them opened great & flew well.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #20 October 3, 2011 QuoteHave you jumped a Sabre II before? I've been hearing really good things about the Spectre but was wondering how it compares to the Sabre II. I rented a Sabre II 170 @ the DZ one weekend when I was getting my canopy relined, and it opened REALLY soft, had some slider hang up ... wouldn't mind having some slider hang up every now and then! Sabre2s can open soft, but they can also open hard, and anywhere in between. I understand it to be pretty sensitive to packing. I'm told it's especially sensitive to how the slider is quartered, particularly the sides being pulled out properly. I pull the sides of the slider well out and make sure it stays put during the rest of the pack job. That gives me openings that are pretty consistenly soft. But I don't have a whole lot of jumps on it. I've had it slam me once or twice, once really hard from a paid packer."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marisan 0 #21 October 3, 2011 Rope and rings Stratostar followed by a Pegasus. Back in the day, any canopy that took 1000 feet to open would be by itself after 500 feet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #22 October 3, 2011 My top list of soft opening canopies would be something like this: Neos-99 (when it doesn't open hard, have not tried any with the fix). Crossfire2-129 Safire2-139 Storm 135(?) JVX-90 Scirocco-77 Crossfire2-119 Safire2-119 Its been too long since I jumped a spectre to know where it would go in the list, but probably near the Storm. Of these, I can only recommend a Safire2 or Storm to someone with few jump numbers. I've also only jumped one of each kind and all canopies are a bit different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #23 October 3, 2011 Quote Sabre2s can open soft, but they can also open hard, and anywhere in between. I understand it to be pretty sensitive to packing.. just like any other canopy... I can even pack slammers on a Crossfire if you ask me to. But I generally try to do it the other way around scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerolim 7 #24 October 3, 2011 What about Atair Radical? The Radical also incorporates the Atair 2 Stage Opening Technology, originally used on the Atair Cobalt Canopy, which provides soft predictable on heading openings. This means all center cells are ported but there is no porting between 3 center cells and outher cells. In my expirience (200 jumps on Radical 135) - faster you go it opens slower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #25 October 3, 2011 would you recommend a radical for a 100jumps jumper ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites