wayne8577 0 #1 November 17, 2005 Ok, I'm not new to the sport but have not jumped in quite sometime. Just starting back! Please explane why a canopy will collapse. Is it wind shear, or something else? Just read about a canopy colapse at 20 ft. alt.Here's to Old Farts in the Wind! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,998 #2 November 17, 2005 >explane why a canopy will collapse. Many reasons. The canopy could stall. This will result in a sudden drop; people often interpret this as a collapse. It's really not but it feels that way. The winds could change such that the top of the canopy becomes loaded. Since the lines have no compression strength, the canopy will collapse instantly, no matter what design it is. The winds could change such that the air over the canopy slows down a lot. This causes a stall; see above. The winds could change such that the winds are now coming from the side. If this happens gradually enough the canopy will weathervane into the new wind. If it happens rapidly one side could collapse as the canopy attempts to turn. Some sources of these changing winds: -Wake turbulence behind someone else. Slow/heavy canopies (like tandems) have the worst wake turbulence. -Turbulence off obstacles on the DZ. A 10 foot tree can cause turbulence 100 feet downwind. -Thermal effects - dust devils and thermals. These can be seen because of the dust/grass/trash they pick up. -Weather related turbulence, like a thunderstorm gust front. For a more detailed description of turbulence I recommend "understanding the sky" by Dennis Pagen. Excellent book on weather that affects parachutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne8577 0 #3 November 17, 2005 Thanks for the info. I am a Capt for United and do understand a great deal about weather but having jumped rounds mostly ( some squares back in the early 70's) I was wondering about the word calapse. After revieing my foggy memory on squares and reading your post I can see where the top of a canopy can suddenly, or gradually loose some airflow with the lines like they are. Good food for thought for a newbee! including me!Here's to Old Farts in the Wind! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman32 0 #4 November 17, 2005 You should listen to Brian Germain's interview on Skydive radio. He discusses the flight dynamics of parachute and what you can do to reduce it likelyhood. Inveniam Viam aut Faciam I'm back biatches! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #5 November 17, 2005 Direct download link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayne8577 0 #6 November 18, 2005 Thanks! When is this on the air and what station? I live outside of Atlanta. Is it on every week or what?Here's to Old Farts in the Wind! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirenoremac 0 #7 November 18, 2005 It's a podcast... it's on the web. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #8 November 18, 2005 QuoteOk, I'm not new to the sport but have not jumped in quite sometime. Just starting back! Please explane why a canopy will collapse. Is it wind shear, or something else? Just read about a canopy colapse at 20 ft. alt. Learn all you can about this issue and learn to minimize the probability and severity but one thing I can share with you from my personal experience - Once when I was low to the ground, say 30 or 40 feet my canopy bucked like a bronco and I looked up and was distracted for just a moment and stopped paying attention to the planet I was about to land on and my landing was much less than perfect resulting in a badly sprained ankle - I got lucky. Lesson learned, when I am that low to the ground looking up at the canopy did not benefit me at all and what good did taking my eyes off the ground do me? Now whenever I am low to the ground I stay focused on my landing and adjust my reactions to changing conditions accordingly by staying focused on what is important - landing safely... Make it a great day!Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 November 20, 2005 Skydive Radio...click on "Download a Show" http://www.skydiveradio.com/My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites