Over a tandem not a safe place to be

[JohnMitchell 16]

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I saw the canopy of the tandem deploy. Assuming he was at 5k ft I had a 2k ft separation vertically and they were behind me by say 400ft. I was in a track so I could see them behind me.

1- Vertical separation doesn't count when they're under canopy and you're still in freefall.

2- Did the two of you "trade places" in the line of flight, in other words, did you cross over the top of the tandem pair at some time?

3- You're not the first noob to slide up and down the jumprun line trying to sit and head down. Vskydiver almost hit the open canopy of such a knoob after videoing on of my tandems. So keep yourself perpendicular to the jumprun line while you flail around. If you can't do that, then stay on your belly. Make your tracks off the jumprun line.

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I should answer something like "It depends on how cute the tandem passenger is" or "If the tandem passenger is a smelly engineer, then its ok to scare them" or the many other remarks you would regularly post.

Instead I am just disappointed and not surprised. If you just searched, you would find several lengthy discussions on exit separation dating back to the Wright brothers.
Same for lurking tandems
Same for exit order
Same for freefall drift
Same for Learning to sit
Same for Sliding all over the place
Same for Starting Freeflying

In my opinion:
1) You will do better if you learn to skydive in the air, not on the computer.
2) Spend your time on this site by going to the last page of the forum and start reading. No posting. When you get to the first page do the same for the other forums.
3) Write out a post on a different program and wait a day or two. If no one has posted with your content at that time, consider why. It could be that no one has thought of this (You will find out that this is unlikely if you follow suggestion 2) or your content might be inappropriate or irrelevant or unwanted.
4) Make real friends. This is a life long skill that will help you in many other ways. Your skydiving buddies will be "old farts", n00bs, swoopers, vidiots, manifesters...and they are the ones who jump with you, not the people on this site.
5) The DZO and S&TA at your home DZ are the best people to talk to about anything skydiving related. They are responsible for: the property damage, the incident report, the fatality report, the insurance lawsuit and the reputation damage that you will might cause.
6) You need new material. Read the "Bonfire" thread. You will find both the funniest and most disturbing concepts woven together in a chaotic jumble of words. Also: every couple of years someone comes to regret posts from their early days.
7) People who post on DZ.com, me included, just have a valid email address. None of their claims or advice should be taken seriously or taken at all. Log off, delete your account and never return. These people could be trying to get you hurt or killed. If you believe everything you read on the internet, I have an exciting business opportunity for you with a Nigerian millionaire who keeps emailing me, looks legit to me.

End of rant

There are no dangerous dives
Only dangerous divers

[Krip 2]

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I saw the canopy of the tandem deploy. Assuming he was at 5k ft I had a 2k ft separation vertically and they were behind me by say 400ft. I was in a track so I could see them behind me.

1- Vertical separation doesn't count when they're under canopy and you're still in freefall.

2- Did the two of you "trade places" in the line of flight, in other words, did you cross over the top of the tandem pair at some time?

3- You're not the first noob to slide up and down the jumprun line trying to sit and head down. Vskydiver almost hit the open canopy of such a knoob after videoing on of my tandems. So keep yourself perpendicular to the jumprun line while you flail around. If you can't do that, then stay on your belly. Make your tracks off the jumprun line.

A couple of weeks ago #2 posted he was doing solo's following the tandems and was opening at 5k if I remember correctly. (50-50 chance)

Now he's jumping out of cessna's and saying he did this and that I'm not sure he knows what happened or how long it took him to wait "10 seconds". The dudes only makeing 30 jumps/yr.

Whats going on here? no one wants to jump with #2 or he's to busy to get some tunnel time, hire a coach. S he goes to a different DZ where no one knows him.

I wonder if he even has a logbook so the new DZO knows whats going on with this dude. DZO asks How many jumps you got?

#2 responds 84 jumps and leaves out ......in 3 yr's.

R.

[JohnMitchell 16]

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#2 responds 84 jumps and leaves out ......in 3 yr's.

[shah269 0]

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#2 responds 84 jumps and leaves out ......in 3 yr's.

Pesky MBA got in the way!
Had a chance to speak to a few people with significantly larger number of jumps and I now have a much much better idea as to how to spot people from the aircraft and how to adjust my solo jump.

Thank you guys and gals!

Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay.

The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools!

[Krip 2]

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#2 responds 84 jumps and leaves out ......in 3 yr's.

Pesky MBA got in the way!
Had a chance to speak to a few people with significantly larger number of jumps and I now have a much much better idea as to how to spot people from the aircraft and how to adjust my solo jump.

#2

Nice try

You got a MBA and were able to post 3-4 K times on Dizzy .com and during the same time period. But didn't have enough time to jump

Have you tried the dog/cat ate my logbook excuse.

You can't learn how to spot by watching UTube and talking to folks you have to actually do it and learn from your mistakes.and success's

Thats what a two way or a coach is for. They can show you from the air then it's #2 see # 2 do Same same.

It's like insulting female engineers the more you do it the better you'll get at it.

R.


Thank you guys and gals!

One Jump Wonder