Feeblemind 1 #1 April 8, 2011 Well oil and gas prices are on the rise again so whats do you think is going to happen to our jump ticket prices? We saw the prices spike in 2008/2009 and tickets went up. Even though fuel dropped most jump ticket prices remained higher. Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #2 April 8, 2011 $ 15 jump tickets, less in bulk. I trust the price will not change.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #3 April 8, 2011 Raise tandem prices, and leave us experienced jumpers alone! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #4 April 8, 2011 Our jump tix already went up $1/jump.*I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Feeblemind 1 #5 April 8, 2011 Quote Raise tandem prices, and leave us experienced jumpers alone! I wish Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 49 #6 April 8, 2011 We went from $17/ticket to $20/ticket. They will come back down when fuel does just like last time.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mircan 0 #7 April 12, 2011 POV from somebody on another continent: Jump ticket to 10k (Cessna DZ) went to 30 Euros ~ 43$. Quote They will come back down when fuel does just like last time. Not they will not. Like all other commodities, prices just go up. Never down. When fuel prices drop, there is more money left to the aircraft owner/DZO, and people already "got used" to the price. Start of this season was weak... dudeist skydiver #42 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mircan 0 #8 April 12, 2011 For one second I thought that there maybe IS a place where price drops are really happening . Beisdes doing tandem videos, I see it is going to be "swoop only" season for me dudeist skydiver #42 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #9 April 12, 2011 >Raise tandem prices, and leave us experienced jumpers alone! Might have the opposite as desired effect. If tandem prices at dropzone A go up, and tandem prices at dropzone B don't (or go up less) then B may get all the tandem business - leaving only the experienced jumpers at dropzone A to cover _all_ the DZ costs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grubber 0 #10 April 12, 2011 Mile High Prices: Full Altitude = $27 Hop-n-Pop = $20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pkrfce 0 #11 April 12, 2011 Currently paying $25 to 12k in a 182 and 206. Is that to much? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacketsdb23 49 #12 April 12, 2011 I was not being sarcastic. At my DZ, Bay Area Skydiving, prices went back down to $17/ticket when fuel prices came down. Our DZO has no interest in keeping our tickets up when fuel prices come down. To our advantage we have a local DZ that seems to remain at $15/ticket even during fuel escalation.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #13 April 12, 2011 QuoteCurrently paying $25 to 12k in a 182 and 206. Is that to much? No, count your lucky stars you are not paying more than $30 or up to $50. Airplanes are not cheap, they are very expensive and only getting more expensive. It is not just the fuel that is going up in price. If you were paying US$7 a gallon to fill your car and US$35 for a jump then you might be on par with much of the rest of the world. I think it is just a case of america having it too easy for too long"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #14 April 12, 2011 QuoteRaise tandem prices, and leave us experienced jumpers alone! In some type of selfish utopia that might be possible, or if you work for ma and do not have to pay for any jumps. But in all seriousness if skydivers want to remain sport jumping, they will have to pull their weight. I have seen a a few tandem factories where sport jumpers are shunned, there are more tandem customers that can be done in the daylight hours paying $3-400 each and the fun jumoer only brings in $40 or so... Do the maths, personally I cannot see how some dz's manage to continue to operate, a twin otter with 2 pt6-27's with 20 people paying $20. that is only $400 to take a multi million dollar aircraft up and pay the sevicing the fuel and make a profit... I cannot see how that is possible but the economics here in NZ are somewhat different with commodities being much more expensive."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neandertal 0 #15 April 13, 2011 Quote Currently paying $25 to 12k in a 182 and 206. Is that to much? No, you are paying a fair price. Specially if your DZ keeps aircraft maintenance up to date. I wouldn't sell a slot to 12k for less them $30, given the actual fuel and maintenance prices in US. Here is a break down of your jump ticket based on a small DZ, flying a C-182 with Continental O-470 series, 300 hours/year (2400 heads/year, 8 heads/hour or 4 heads/load) and going to 10K MSL. ->Firewall forward OH reserve ( engine, prop, mags, carb, gov, engine mount, start, gen/alt, exaust, bafflings and etc): $25000 / 1500 hours / 8 = $0.26; ->Typical annual costs: $2500 / 2400 = $1.04; ->Aircraft Insurance and liability: $5500 / 2400 = $2.08; ->Fuel per load (avg) 7gl x $5.50 / 4 = $9.62; ->Pilot: $10 / 4 = $2.5; ->Extras parts, oil changes, unscheduled maintenance and top OH: $15 p/h / 8 = $1.8; ->100 hours inspection: 12 hours x $65 x 3 / 2400 = $0.97; ->C-182 airframe depreciation: $5 / 8 = $0.62 Direct total cost (not including office expences, ground crew, rent, facilities, utilities, taxes, free beer and etc...) : $19.00 Each DZ is different. There are more efficient, low cost and/or high volume operations out there. There are shortcuts too. No Drogue, no JUMP!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBCOOPER 5 #16 April 13, 2011 QuoteCurrently paying $25 to 12k in a 182 and 206. Is that to much? Two years ago....Replying to: Re: Stall On Jump Run Emergency Procedure? by billvon If the plane is unrecoverable then exiting is a very very good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #17 April 13, 2011 QuoteRaise tandem prices, and leave us experienced jumpers alone! Why? What's so special that we as jumpers should be exempt from COL increases?You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #18 April 13, 2011 We're paying $45.00 AUD ($43.00 USD) for a 14k load slot. I expect that to increase as uel goes up, also we are about to introduce a "Carbon Tax" which will drive fuel prices higher yet sgain. I can foresee $50.00 lift tickets very soon.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridestrong 1 #19 April 13, 2011 Quote We're paying $45.00 AUD ($43.00 USD) for a 14k load slot. I expect that to increase as uel goes up, also we are about to introduce a "Carbon Tax" which will drive fuel prices higher yet sgain. I can foresee $50.00 lift tickets very soon. *I am not afraid of dying... I am afraid of missing life.* ----Disclaimer: I don't know shit about skydiving.---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #20 April 13, 2011 QuoteI think it is just a case of america having it too easy for too long In the US 28% of fuel cost is tax imposed by different government agencies. In New Zealand 47 to 51% of fuel costs are taxes. Now whose fault is that? Why must you bring US bashing into every conversation? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #21 April 13, 2011 Quote Why must you bring US bashing into every conversation? Sparky Mostly because youv need a good bashing you arogant bastards Hi sparky, how ya beenRhys is correct in saying you guys do get it good on fuel costs, your prices are half what we pay. But your demand for fuel per population is 14 times that of OZ, So your buying power is probably a whole lot better than oursYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #22 April 13, 2011 Quote Quote Why must you bring US bashing into every conversation? Sparky Mostly because youv need a good bashing you arogant bastards Hi sparky, how ya beenRhys is correct in saying you guys do get it good on fuel costs, your prices are half what we pay. But your demand for fuel per population is 14 times that of OZ, So your buying power is probably a whole lot better than ours Doing great for an old man Squeak, and how about you? When you are trying to leave the largest carbon footprint possible you need the lower prices to effect the goal. How are we doing so far? SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #23 April 13, 2011 Quote Quote Currently paying $25 to 12k in a 182 and 206. Is that to much? No, count your lucky stars you are not paying more than $30 or up to $50. Airplanes are not cheap, they are very expensive and only getting more expensive. It is not just the fuel that is going up in price. If you were paying US$7 a gallon to fill your car and US$35 for a jump then you might be on par with much of the rest of the world. I think it is just a case of america having it too easy for too long Exactly. It's £6.36 a (real) gallon for diesel over here now (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigless 0 #24 April 13, 2011 Quote Mostly because youv need a good bashing you arogant bastardsRhys is correct in saying you guys do get it good on fuel costs, your prices are half what we pay. But your demand for fuel per population is 14 times that of OZ, So your buying power is probably a whole lot better than ours Exactly and this thing applies to a lot of other things as well, US really does have it easy and good on most things compared to the rest.."All limits are self imposed." Icarus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #25 April 14, 2011 QuoteWhy must you bring US bashing into every conversation? Saying you have had it too easy for too long is not US bashing, that may be how you see it but it is not. It is just how it is."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
