martimarr 0 #1 October 19, 2005 is There anything on the web about packing your chute I just got my first rig and wanted to pratice packing before I go to the DZ but Its not that easy is it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 41 #2 October 19, 2005 http://www.sidsrigging.com/skydivers/skydivers_index.htm"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #3 October 19, 2005 There's plenty out there on the net on pro-packing your main. This is a link from the Aerodyne research site that might help you out. One thing, try to get your technique down on an older chute before someone throws a brand new zero-p at you! http://www.aerodyne-int.com/download/Aerodyne_maincanopies_manual_A4.pdf Have fun, Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #4 October 19, 2005 Not what you want to hear, but LOTS of practice. Ask your favorite rigger if they'd mind watching you and give you pointers as you go, they all seem to have different ways of doing things, some will work better for you than others, but it's nice to get those different viewpoints. Hope your first rig isn't brand new ZP!! Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sid 1 #5 October 19, 2005 http://www.packingparachutes.com/packing_course/packing_index.htmPete Draper, Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #6 October 19, 2005 I don't really see any reason to learn to flat pack (though I went that route), unless you're planning on packing tandems for extra cash. Just go with Pro packing from the start. I liked flat packing, and I got nice openings, but the people at a busy DZ will give you a lot of grief for using up so much floor space and it's no faster than Pro packing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #7 October 20, 2005 my pack job - quater the slider, clear the d-lines and stuff it in the bag. Stow the lines neatly and close. Havent packed a mal in 2700+ packjobs - hopefully I will pack one this weekend because I am long overdue...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #8 October 20, 2005 All well and good to practice on your own, but I'd highly recommend taking a class or asking an experienced rigger or packer to show you and critique your technique as well."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #9 October 20, 2005 QuoteAll well and good to practice on your own, but I'd highly recommend taking a class or asking an experienced rigger or packer to show you and critique your technique as well. Great Advice...Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OSOK 0 #10 October 20, 2005 Quotemy pack job - quater the slider, clear the d-lines and stuff it in the bag. Stow the lines neatly and close. Havent packed a mal in 2700+ packjobs - hopefully I will pack one this weekend because I am long overdue... Just out of curiosity... can you describe your "stuff it in the bag" part? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #11 October 20, 2005 Quoteis There anything on the web about packing your chute I just got my first rig and wanted to pratice packing before I go to the DZ but Its not that easy is it. No it's not which is why a "packing class" is part of a A license progression. I'd suggest you take your gear to the DZ and ask a rigger to teach you haw to pack."We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martimarr 0 #12 October 21, 2005 Thanks for all that responded i was asking more as an until i get 2 the dz where can i learn so i can practice. I work 2 jobs and dont have alot of chances to get out to the dz so u know how that goes THANKS AGAIN and blue ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #13 October 21, 2005 QuoteQuotemy pack job - quater the slider, clear the d-lines and stuff it in the bag. Stow the lines neatly and close. Havent packed a mal in 2700+ packjobs - hopefully I will pack one this weekend because I am long overdue... Just out of curiosity... can you describe your "stuff it in the bag" part? Worth repeating what NYFlyer posted: All well and good to practice on your own, but I'd highly recommend taking a class or asking an experienced rigger or packer to show you and critique your technique as well. Addendum to my original post: Imagine trying to explain to someone how to fold a complex Origami rose complete with stem and thorns using only words online. I believe the simplicity I was expressing was improper for this thread of information, I should have kept the comment to myself, my apologies. The best advice I have seen here so far was made by NYFlyer which I copy pasted above. Learning to pack a parachute properly is important so you know how it works. The pack job I described takes me 5 to 12 minutes depending on how much of a rush I am in. Skydiving professionally and the desire to jump my own packs mean I must accomplish the task as efficiently and as quickly as I can while minimizing the occurrence of a malfunction. My pack job includes the important aspects for the configuration of gear I am utilizing and in no way was my intent to imply that another skydiver at any skill level jump a pack like the one I described, I have been doing it every day for the last 5 years as a full time skydiver. It was a mistake for me to make that post so please disregard it and take a packing class from a qualified person.Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverchic 0 #14 October 21, 2005 And a good general suggestion: Go for an older chute on your first rig. To start with it doesn't matter so much if you fall over, get it dirty but mainly IT'S REALLY HARD TO PACK A NEWISH CHUTE! =) Mine's got a couple of hundred jumps on it and it's still pretty hard to put in the bag. Put your knee on it and it just spreads out - silly thing.How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martimarr 0 #15 October 25, 2005 dont sweat it AFFI I know some people have diffrent ways I just want to practice while I wait on a new line set ya know. I plan on taking the first class that comes up,meanwhile I'm talking with the packers at the DZ . thanks for the help and blue skies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #16 October 25, 2005 QuoteI plan on taking the first class that comes up,meanwhile I'm talking with the packers at the DZ Talk with the rigger more than the packers. Packers are not riggers. You can watch them and get the general idea, but don't learn how to pack from them. I am a packer, and my policy is that I'll only watch or give pointers after you have taken a packing class from a rigger and packed a few times in front of the rigger and/or coach/instructor. Packers are not certified as teachers, so no matter how good we are or how much we want to help you, it's safer to go straight to those who are certified to teach. Jen Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thepollster 0 #17 October 25, 2005 Quote Packers are not riggers. And riggers are not packers. I know many riggers whose main pack jobs I wouldn't trust. To become a (FAA) rigger you need 20 reserve pack jobs, plus some other things, but packing a main is not a requirement. Many packers have tens of thousands of main pack jobs. QuoteI am a packer, and my policy is that I'll only watch or give pointers after you have taken a packing class from a rigger and packed a few times in front of the rigger and/or coach/instructor. Good for you. There are many coaches and instructors who can barely pack a main. My policy is I can learn from anyone, but I am leary to take advice from newer people. Beware, because the newer people tend to be the ones dispensing advice most freely, and some of that advice can be dangerous. QuotePackers are not certified as teachers, so no matter how good we are or how much we want to help you, it's safer to go straight to those who are certified to teach. Riggers aren't certified as teachers either. That being said, a rigger should be able to teach someone how to pack a reserve, packers should be able to teach someone how to pack a main, and an AFFI should be able to teach someone how to successfully use those parachutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #18 October 25, 2005 >Packers are not certified as teachers . . . Well, AFF-I's _are_ certified as skydiving teachers, but are legally not allowed to pack a student's main. (Oddly, a student with 1 jump _can_ legally pack his own main.) A good many packers (and experienced jumpers) do a good job teaching newbies how to pack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #19 October 25, 2005 In other countries a licensed skydiver can pack a student's canopy and supervise a student's packjob or teach a student to pack with the method authorised by the local STA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peregrinerose 0 #20 October 25, 2005 An instructor or rigger who can't pack a main themselves probably wouldn't be teaching a packing course though I didn't mean to imply that any instructor should teach a student to pack. Though if a rigger can't pack a main, no way in hell will they touch my reserve!! Do or do not, there is no try -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowie 0 #21 November 1, 2005 Surely the best way is to get taught once properly by the DZ nominated training person and then get eveyone else at the DZ to help after that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
