Juz 0 #1 April 24, 2012 http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/sports.html I cannot access the USPA stuff so cannot comment on accuracy/validity. Juz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobbik 0 #2 April 24, 2012 http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/sports.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwalbright 0 #3 April 24, 2012 7 people died playing table teniss? Those germans must have crazy rules.Enter Funny thought Here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #4 April 24, 2012 7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf?Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 April 24, 2012 Quote7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf? Table tennis is a sloooooooooow death. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #6 April 24, 2012 Inconsistent data as can't compare people in a sport to number of times doing an activity.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #7 April 24, 2012 Quote Quote 7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf? Table tennis is a sloooooooooow death. Not always... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424823/Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #8 April 24, 2012 QuoteInconsistent data as can't compare people in a sport to number of times doing an activity. I enjoy telling folks that skydiving is safer than fishing. Around 3000 folks die in the US every year by drowning, which I conveniently classify as "fishing" deaths. I generally will give a disclaimer regarding the number of participants. Seriously, people do tend to underestimate the danger involved with water, and especially if the water is cold. Maybe somewhat obvious since 3000 folks die each year in this country. Even in Kansas, people die every Memorial, Independence, and Labor Day weekend in drowning accidents.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #9 April 24, 2012 Quotehttp://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/risk/sports.html I cannot access the USPA stuff so cannot comment on accuracy/validity. Juz I like the chart which shows that eating fast food (heart disease) was more dangerous than BASE jumping in the US circa 2002. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hub1100 0 #10 April 24, 2012 QuoteInconsistent data as can't compare people in a sport to number of times doing an activity. I completely agree with this view; -especially since this data is compiled every year and not used in that fashion. (random years used) -especially since the data is 'rate against population' not rate against safe occurrences. Buford Montana, USA is for sale, the entire town. With a population of ONE. You can make any statistics you want. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/04/04/An-Entire-Wyoming-Town-for-Sale-for-100k.aspx#page1Anyone can swim, only a few swim well. Anyone can skydive, everyone can skydive well. Practice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robinheid 0 #11 April 25, 2012 Quote Quote Inconsistent data as can't compare people in a sport to number of times doing an activity. I enjoy telling folks that skydiving is safer than fishing. Around 3000 folks die in the US every year by drowning, which I conveniently classify as "fishing" deaths. I generally will give a disclaimer regarding the number of participants. Seriously, people do tend to underestimate the danger involved with water, and especially if the water is cold. Maybe somewhat obvious since 3000 folks die each year in this country. Even in Kansas, people die every Memorial, Independence, and Labor Day weekend in drowning accidents. LOL... every year in Yosemite more people die from drowning than have died in BASE jumping accidents there in all years since 1978 combined -- but then, government wankers never have been very good at math -- or common sense. 44 SCR-6933 / SCS-3463 / D-5533 / BASE 44 / CCS-37 / 82d Airborne (Ret.) "The beginning of wisdom is to first call things by their right names." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #12 April 26, 2012 Quote7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf? They pinged when they should have ponged? Ping Pong must be a contact sport in Germany. Either that, or there as some awful sore losers there.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #13 April 26, 2012 QuoteQuote7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf? They pinged when they should have ponged? Ping Pong must be a contact sport in Germany. Either that, or there as some awful sore losers there. http://www.buzzfeed.com/provincialelitist/hardcore-ping-pong-death-match-4t5Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namowal 0 #14 April 29, 2012 Quote 7 people died in Germany in a ten year period playing table tennis? Wtf? According to this cartoon clip, it's risky stuff... Ping PongMy blog with the skydiving duck cartoons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky_doggy 0 #15 April 29, 2012 Does anyone have a theory why the skydiving accident rate in Sweden seems better than the US? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #16 April 29, 2012 Quote Does anyone have a theory why the skydiving accident rate in Sweden seems better than the US? Well, maybe they make more nekkid jumps there! According to Sansuit, there has never been a nude skydiving fatality lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky_doggy 0 #17 April 29, 2012 If I started jumping nekkid I am pretty sure there would be more fatalies on the ground. Why? 'coz people would look up and say "oh my god, that's 'orribe" and then have a coranary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #18 April 29, 2012 Quote If I started jumping nekkid I am pretty sure there would be more fatalies on the ground. Why? 'coz people would look up and say "oh my god, that's 'orribe" and then have a coranary. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
climber71 0 #19 May 11, 2012 Tell people skydiving is safer than driving a car or crossing the street, but they still say skydiving is dangerous. Now just smile and walk away. Kind of like spitting into the wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #20 May 11, 2012 You can read about it in Anton Westman's report. It's a few years old now, but it's still a good read. I believe there is a thread about his work too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #21 May 11, 2012 Quote Tell people skydiving is safer than driving a car or crossing the street, but they still say skydiving is dangerous. Now just smile and walk away. Kind of like spitting into the wind. Ask yourself how many jumpers you've known that have died jumping. Then ask yourself how many jumpers you've known have died in car accidents. For me, my first number was waaay bigger.It could be just that skydivers are really, really good drivers. The stat of there being over 2 million jumpers in the USA? They're obviously counting one-time tandem jumpers, which, luckily, are the minority of fatalities. Compare number of deaths/year with estimated number of active jumpers and the stats are not so cheerful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #22 May 11, 2012 QuoteSeriously, people do tend to underestimate the danger involved with water, and especially if the water is cold. People usually underestimate the danger of any activity they are involved in. It’s called a “mental defense mechanism”. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #23 May 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteSeriously, people do tend to underestimate the danger involved with water, and especially if the water is cold. People usually underestimate the danger of any activity they are involved in. It’s called a “mental defense mechanism”. Sparky And conversely, those who aren't involved tend to overestimate the danger involved. It's called a "pussy defense mechanism?"Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bochen280 0 #24 May 11, 2012 QuoteTell people skydiving is safer than driving a car or crossing the street, but they still say skydiving is dangerous. Now just smile and walk away. Kind of like spitting into the wind. I've been walking for close to 26 years and driving a car close to 10... never got hurt before until first tandem skydiving... and I've done a lot of walking and a heck of a lot more driving than most people. Skydiving safer than driving a car or crossing the street? Not for me it sure wasn't.. That statistic doesn't even seem logical. If everyone who was capable of crossing a street or driving a car were also compelled to skydive (which would be ending up like a majority of the population) we'd see death statistics left and right and the sport would be shutdown in less than a year. It would be interesting to compare AFF student vs driving school student injury/accident/death statistics... From a percentage standpoint I'm certain far fewer people got killed learning to walk across a street than skydiving. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #25 May 11, 2012 QuoteQuoteTell people skydiving is safer than driving a car or crossing the street, but they still say skydiving is dangerous. Now just smile and walk away. Kind of like spitting into the wind. I've been walking for close to 26 years and driving a car close to 10... never got hurt before until first tandem skydiving... and I've done a lot of walking and a heck of a lot more driving than most people. Skydiving safer than driving a car or crossing the street? Not for me it sure wasn't.. That statistic doesn't even seem logical. If everyone who was capable of crossing a street or driving a car were also compelled to skydive (which would be ending up like a majority of the population) we'd see death statistics left and right and the sport would be shutdown in less than a year. It would be interesting to compare AFF student vs driving school student injury/accident/death statistics... From a percentage standpoint I'm certain far fewer people got killed learning to walk across a street than skydiving. Your logic goes south when you indicate that skydiving would be shut down if more folks participated. Lots of people go play in the water, and every single holiday weekend in Kansas people die at the lake (I'm sure this is true of every state where folks boat and swim). By your logic, boating, swimming, and fishing would be shut down due to the obvious danger. Ironically, people let their small children boat, swim, and fish. Commercial fisherman is the most deadly occupation in the US, why do we allow people to fish?!?!?! The reason is is a combination of perception, and bull shit. There's lots of BS contained in my, and other posts above this one. I think that surely we can all agree on that point!Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
