gnstuff4me 0 #1 April 30, 2012 Can and how much wind would collapse your canopy? I'm doing my AFF course here in about a month and i'm just trying to get knowledgeable about it all. thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wildcard451 0 #2 April 30, 2012 Yes. It depends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hellis 0 #3 April 30, 2012 Yes, it can. But the strenght of the wind is not the only factor. But the short answer is, you won't jump in those conditions anyway on your AFF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gnstuff4me 0 #4 April 30, 2012 So is it something that i should be worried about or is it kinda un-likely? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gnstuff4me 0 #5 April 30, 2012 What are some of those other factors? Maybe there is some threads about them on here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #6 April 30, 2012 QuoteWhat are some of those other factors? Maybe there is some threads about them on here? Dude this is not what you want to hear, but. STOP WORRYING Your first jump course instructor(s) will explain all you need to know. IF they don't and you don't get any satisfaction from the DZ, then ask us here. Worrying about "what ifs" before your jump course will do you no good. and some of the answers here will likely confuse you more than help you.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hellis 0 #7 April 30, 2012 Do 50 jumps first, then I can tell you. There is no reason for you to know this. Trust the DZ, the staff, instructors, pilot and other jumpers to help you. If we tell you signs what to look for, you will "see" things. You will get affraid for no reason, not a good start on a first jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites darkwing 5 #8 April 30, 2012 It isn't wind speed that can collapse a canopy, it is turbulence. Your instructors can tell you more. Don't worry. Jump. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cocheese 0 #9 April 30, 2012 A canopy is a wing. A non-rigid collapse-able descending wing. Wings and canopies need air moving over them to fly. You can collapse your canopy with your toggles by distorting the wing. Keeping a canopy inflated is done by flying into the wind. Wings fly better if they fly into the wind. Stop the wind over your wing or stop the wind from inflating your canopy, and your canopy will collapse. Turbulence can cause this. Avoid turbulence. Avoid stalls below cutaway level. The perfect aircraft landing is a controlled stall at the last possible moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JasonYergin 0 #10 April 30, 2012 Keep reading, learning and asking questions. Some of your questions might seem off to some people in the beginning but just go with it. I'm not saying its ever too early to be learning stuff but trust that your instructor or instructors will guide you and keep you safe. _________________________________ ...Don't Get Elimated!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cocheese 0 #11 April 30, 2012 Ok . I will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites davelepka 4 #12 April 30, 2012 To answer your question, turbulence can collapse a canopy, and in terms of canopies, that turbulence is typically the result the wind being disturbed by objects in it's path like trees and buildings. Picture the wind as the flow of water in a stream, and when it hits an object like a rock, the flow is disturbed in the area behind the rock. Just like in a stream, the level of distrubance will vary depending on the size of the object and the speed of the wind. Higher winds and bigger objects will produce more turbulence. What this means to you, right now? Not much. There are wind speed limitations on student jumpers, and requirements for the size of the landing area with relation to objects. If you find yourself landing off the airport, simply aim for the center of a large open field. That, combined with the lower wind speeds for student jumps, will make a collapse very unlikely. Now to answer a question you weren't asking, try to avoid this line of thinking or 'research' before taking an first jump course. By doing this, you're creating situations or concerns on your head that shouldn't be there, and may effect your thinking or performance during an actual jump. Go to the DZ, and let your instructors teach you the info they want you to have, and in the way they want to teach it. Every jump can be made 10 different ways, with 10 different types of rig. Due to this, the student program at each DZ is tailored to the equipment and techniques they use. Looking for generic answers on the internet may be putting the wrong info into your head for the place you will be making your actual jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gnstuff4me 0 #13 April 30, 2012 Thanks for all the info everyone. I do understand things about flying I lil better then the average joe cause I come from a family I of pilots, also I understand that this is not a concern for ne at this stage. I was jist trying to gain some knowledge. Thanks again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyjumpenfool 2 #14 April 30, 2012 Quote Thanks for all the info everyone. I do understand things about flying I lil better then the average joe cause I come from a family I of pilots, also I understand that this is not a concern for ne at this stage. I was jist trying to gain some knowledge. Thanks again Unfortunately, the people above forgot the most important information you'll need to know for your first jump..... Smile a lot and have fun!!!! Welcome to the sport.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites popsjumper 2 #15 May 1, 2012 Wind is just fine until you break it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites oldwomanc6 52 #16 May 1, 2012 Quote Wind is just fine until you break it. You break it, you buy it. When you buy it you own it. When you own it, you can do with it as you wish. Therefore, you are the wind's master. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #17 May 1, 2012 Quote Can and how much wind would collapse your canopy? I'm doing my AFF course here in about a month and i'm just trying to get knowledgeable about it all. thanks! Your canopy will open in a 120 mph wind. It will collapse at some speed slightly above zero. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 1888 0 #18 May 1, 2012 Re wind: Do not break it on your 1st jump. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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wildcard451 0 #2 April 30, 2012 Yes. It depends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #3 April 30, 2012 Yes, it can. But the strenght of the wind is not the only factor. But the short answer is, you won't jump in those conditions anyway on your AFF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gnstuff4me 0 #4 April 30, 2012 So is it something that i should be worried about or is it kinda un-likely? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gnstuff4me 0 #5 April 30, 2012 What are some of those other factors? Maybe there is some threads about them on here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #6 April 30, 2012 QuoteWhat are some of those other factors? Maybe there is some threads about them on here? Dude this is not what you want to hear, but. STOP WORRYING Your first jump course instructor(s) will explain all you need to know. IF they don't and you don't get any satisfaction from the DZ, then ask us here. Worrying about "what ifs" before your jump course will do you no good. and some of the answers here will likely confuse you more than help you.You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #7 April 30, 2012 Do 50 jumps first, then I can tell you. There is no reason for you to know this. Trust the DZ, the staff, instructors, pilot and other jumpers to help you. If we tell you signs what to look for, you will "see" things. You will get affraid for no reason, not a good start on a first jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #8 April 30, 2012 It isn't wind speed that can collapse a canopy, it is turbulence. Your instructors can tell you more. Don't worry. Jump. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #9 April 30, 2012 A canopy is a wing. A non-rigid collapse-able descending wing. Wings and canopies need air moving over them to fly. You can collapse your canopy with your toggles by distorting the wing. Keeping a canopy inflated is done by flying into the wind. Wings fly better if they fly into the wind. Stop the wind over your wing or stop the wind from inflating your canopy, and your canopy will collapse. Turbulence can cause this. Avoid turbulence. Avoid stalls below cutaway level. The perfect aircraft landing is a controlled stall at the last possible moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JasonYergin 0 #10 April 30, 2012 Keep reading, learning and asking questions. Some of your questions might seem off to some people in the beginning but just go with it. I'm not saying its ever too early to be learning stuff but trust that your instructor or instructors will guide you and keep you safe. _________________________________ ...Don't Get Elimated!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 April 30, 2012 To answer your question, turbulence can collapse a canopy, and in terms of canopies, that turbulence is typically the result the wind being disturbed by objects in it's path like trees and buildings. Picture the wind as the flow of water in a stream, and when it hits an object like a rock, the flow is disturbed in the area behind the rock. Just like in a stream, the level of distrubance will vary depending on the size of the object and the speed of the wind. Higher winds and bigger objects will produce more turbulence. What this means to you, right now? Not much. There are wind speed limitations on student jumpers, and requirements for the size of the landing area with relation to objects. If you find yourself landing off the airport, simply aim for the center of a large open field. That, combined with the lower wind speeds for student jumps, will make a collapse very unlikely. Now to answer a question you weren't asking, try to avoid this line of thinking or 'research' before taking an first jump course. By doing this, you're creating situations or concerns on your head that shouldn't be there, and may effect your thinking or performance during an actual jump. Go to the DZ, and let your instructors teach you the info they want you to have, and in the way they want to teach it. Every jump can be made 10 different ways, with 10 different types of rig. Due to this, the student program at each DZ is tailored to the equipment and techniques they use. Looking for generic answers on the internet may be putting the wrong info into your head for the place you will be making your actual jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gnstuff4me 0 #13 April 30, 2012 Thanks for all the info everyone. I do understand things about flying I lil better then the average joe cause I come from a family I of pilots, also I understand that this is not a concern for ne at this stage. I was jist trying to gain some knowledge. Thanks again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #14 April 30, 2012 Quote Thanks for all the info everyone. I do understand things about flying I lil better then the average joe cause I come from a family I of pilots, also I understand that this is not a concern for ne at this stage. I was jist trying to gain some knowledge. Thanks again Unfortunately, the people above forgot the most important information you'll need to know for your first jump..... Smile a lot and have fun!!!! Welcome to the sport.Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 May 1, 2012 Wind is just fine until you break it.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 52 #16 May 1, 2012 Quote Wind is just fine until you break it. You break it, you buy it. When you buy it you own it. When you own it, you can do with it as you wish. Therefore, you are the wind's master. lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #17 May 1, 2012 Quote Can and how much wind would collapse your canopy? I'm doing my AFF course here in about a month and i'm just trying to get knowledgeable about it all. thanks! Your canopy will open in a 120 mph wind. It will collapse at some speed slightly above zero. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1888 0 #18 May 1, 2012 Re wind: Do not break it on your 1st jump. Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
