wmw999 2,452 #26 April 20, 2012 Obelixtim made a (wise, in my opinion) suggestion that legal discussions about real skydiving incidents shouldn't take place on the internet. You're obviously very interested in Colorado skydiving (48 posts, nearly all of them about that DZ), and you're anonymous. Ergo, some suspicion. Obelixtim has over 1400 posts, on a variety of topics. I.e. a much larger body of work on which to judge his motives, and, frankly, a name, and people who know him. Me, I'll post on anything, so it's a little hard to accuse me of having "an agenda." And yeah, I do think that legal discussions about specific incidents don't belong on the internet. Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #27 April 20, 2012 bandito The tests for being an employee are the usual ones: direction, how you are paid, use of equipment, etc.. It is usually the DZ wanting to deny the employee relationship, not the other way around. I posted my comments to explain the diff between a worker's comp and a tort action. That's it. I cringe when a lawyer sues a waivered sport business. People should be able to choose to accept risk, and businesses shouldn't be sued when an accident occurs. Our litigious society is repugnant to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dpreguy 14 #28 April 20, 2012 I don't know what a PM is. Seems like everyone was so far afield on this that they needed to know the diff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bandito 0 #29 April 20, 2012 Walt, I absolutely agree with you regarding the acceptance of risk. Big boys and girls should be able to make their own choices. However, Tandem is unlike any other student (or experienced) jump because the student is completely at the mercy of the instructor. Imagine if the airlines made you sign a waiver to exempt them from liability... Unfortunately, Every DZO and TM should know that the lawyers will come after them if something goes wrong. Even more so if there is any perception of negligence or cover up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyjumpenfool 2 #30 April 20, 2012 A quick question/comment on workers comp... Other industries have used the 1099 and "independent contractor" route to eliminate the need for expensive workers comp premiums. However, insurance companies are pretty savvy. They can require a business to show proof that all its "independent contractors" possess their own workers comp policies as a stipulation to that businesses policy. We may get to the point where each TI (independent contractor) will need to purchase his/her own worker comp policy. Something that will be very difficult to do, much less afford. So, if we're going to lawyer bash, maybe we should take a swing or two at the insurance companies? Birdshit & Fools Productions "Son, only two things fall from the sky." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,452 #31 April 20, 2012 I've been an independent contractor (not for a DZ), and my employer for darn sure didn't require any insurance of any type. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floormonkey 0 #32 April 20, 2012 Texas law is different, as we are a Right to Work state, as well as the Greatest State in the Union. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #33 April 20, 2012 Quote Imagine if the airlines made you sign a waiver to exempt them from liability... That's some funny shit, right there! lol You obviously have never heard of the Warsaw convention, have you? Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #34 April 22, 2012 I think I'm gonna give them a call(s) starting on Monday, if I have a little spare time to let them know how I feel. They do say call anytime. Phone: 970-366-4132 Toll Free: 888-365-8311 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obelixtim 150 #35 April 22, 2012 Don't waste your breath. Thats what they want you to do.... Best policy is to just ignore them. Any response just makes them think their ad is effective.My computer beat me at chess, It was no match for me at kickboxing.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #36 April 22, 2012 FWIW Everyone has caller I.D. Not nice/smart to mess with lawyers One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
