J0nathan 0 #1 March 26, 2012 hi i just had a random idea, is it possible to hold onto a skydiver whilst he opens his parachute or would you get ripped away ? i think it should be possible if the skydiver who first opens his parachute jumps a quite big one and has it packed so it is a slow and gentle opening. of course a problem would be that the straps would have to be a bit lose in order for the other skydiver to hold on to the first one... another problem would be that the guy/girl thats holding onto the first one might breake fingers due to the rapid deceleration on opening and the force on the hands. dont worry i am not thinking about trying this (at least not yet,maby when i have more experience ), just wanted to know if possible, i googled it but didnt get any usefull results. the idea would be to hold onto the other skydiver in the plane at exit => jump => stabilize => first guy opens chute => freefall stops => and then second skydiver jumps and has like 2 skydives in one . but the first skydiver should open quite high in case anything goes wrong and in order for the second skydiver to have enough time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildWilly 0 #2 March 26, 2012 It's called a Mr. Bill jump. Lots on youtubegrowing old is inevitable, growing up is optional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J0nathan 0 #3 March 26, 2012 wow, nice !!! but why mr bill ??? and is it hard to do ? is ther like a min requirement to try this ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #4 March 26, 2012 Unless it's a Mr Bill it ain't possible. Very experienced folks around here tried it for a TV feature about skydiving myths and didn't succeed on that one. If ya intend to do a Mr Bill, ask instructors, have 200+ jumps etc pp - it's not an easy thing to do if it shall be safe.The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #5 March 26, 2012 Mr Bill: http://www.hulu.com/watch/1453/saturday-night-live-the-mr-bill-showOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J0nathan 0 #6 March 26, 2012 Quote Mr Bill: http://www.hulu.com/watch/1453/saturday-night-live-the-mr-bill-show link doesnt work outside US but i looked at many mr bill jumps on youtube now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J0nathan 0 #7 March 26, 2012 " it's not an easy thing to do if it shall be safe. " what if instead of jumping and the stabilising you use a static line on one parachute ? wouldnt that be easier/safer ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fastphil 0 #8 March 26, 2012 Quotewow, nice !!! but why mr bill ??? and is it hard to do ? is ther like a min requirement to try this ? Minimum two jumpers required... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,321 #9 March 26, 2012 Quote" it's not an easy thing to do if it shall be safe. " what if instead of jumping and the stabilising you use a static line on one parachute ? wouldnt that be easier/safer ? We do them around here using the IAD method. Even then, you both better be fookin strong.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #10 March 27, 2012 Quote is it hard to do ? Not hard to do.... easy to get horribly wrong though (I can still hear that guy yelling "Chop iiiit! CHOP IIIIIT!" and I haven't watched the video in years). Quote is ther like a min requirement to try this ? More like a maximum... I think there's a zone in jump numbers after you have the confidence to attempt it, but before you have the sense not to. (I'm not saying it doesn't happen - just a tendency I've noticed )-- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #11 March 27, 2012 Quote Quote is it hard to do ? Not hard to do.... easy to get horribly wrong though (I can still hear that guy yelling "Chop iiiit! CHOP IIIIIT!" and I haven't watched the video in years). Quote is ther like a min requirement to try this ? More like a maximum... I think there's a zone in jump numbers after you have the confidence to attempt it, but before you have the sense not to. (I'm not saying it doesn't happen - just a tendency I've noticed ) +1 I need to update my numbers, 700 jumps and 10 years, there is no way I would try that. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #12 March 27, 2012 Quote Quote is it hard to do ? Not hard to do.... easy to get horribly wrong though (I can still hear that guy yelling "Chop iiiit! CHOP IIIIIT!" and I haven't watched the video in years). Quote is ther like a min requirement to try this ? More like a maximum... I think there's a zone in jump numbers after you have the confidence to attempt it, but before you have the sense not to. (I'm not saying it doesn't happen - just a tendency I've noticed ) Love that! But wait a minute here! Why a maximum of two? I'm visualizing a string of jumpers hanging on...somewhat like a tube exit or a magic carpet all hanging under one canopy! OK, guys...j/kMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 March 27, 2012 Random answer: PI(e)My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #14 March 27, 2012 I tried it once years ago. I learned a couple of things, one wear long pants and long sleeves. Two, don't do that again regardless of clothing. Here's an interesting one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtCwvZaDB4Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #15 March 27, 2012 Ah heck, never provide someone knows what you assume they should know... A Mr Bill - at least here in Germany - is referred to one experienced TI with a tandem rig and another experienced skydiver with his sport rig, attached to the TI who opens at proper altitude (usually 10000 ft) and then you got to get these hooks unhooked and fall from the TI and open your sport chute at proper altitude. J ust to make clear what I wrote about The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waveoff5500 0 #16 March 27, 2012 tried one with my buddy, had a deployment delay and when it opened we both got slammed. i was bruised on my shoulders for a week and he "felt like he had fallen from ten feet onto his hands" not to mention i was open at 11k after he had fallen off haha. also you have to be careful that the hanger doesnt strip your cutaway and reserve handle if they get ripped off."its just a normal day at the dropzone until its not" 1653 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abedy 0 #17 March 28, 2012 Quote tried one with my buddy Nice to hear both of you got away more or less unscathed But you most definitely did not do it with a tandem rig, provided the details on your profile? As I said before, I'd never do it with just two sports rigs, way too many risks. Even when you do it with two experienced persons (means: TI 1000+ of which 250+ tandem and other 300+ at least) and the equipment mentioned in my earlier post it's not child's play.The sky is not the limit. The ground is. The Society of Skydiving Ducks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #18 March 28, 2012 Yeah in North America a Mr. Bill normally implies two sport rigs. But it has been done hooked up as a tandem passenger with sport rig, if you have a DZO that doesn't mind you renting his very expensive gear to do stupid stuff on, something that might not quite fit the user agreement he signed with the company he equips his DZ with... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetrock 0 #19 March 28, 2012 there used to be a video on the internets called Mr ted. it started off with a Mr Bill but the jumper holding climbed on to the canopy pilots shoulders and stayed on untill they were about 10 feet AGL. then jumped off and executed perfect PLF with no injuries to either jumper Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milehigheric 0 #20 March 29, 2012 Quote there used to be a video on the internets called Mr ted. it started off with a Mr Bill but the jumper holding climbed on to the canopy pilots shoulders and stayed on untill they were about 10 feet AGL. then jumped off and executed perfect PLF with no injuries to either jumper A Bit like the one posted above in this thread perhaps? Post 14 :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #21 March 29, 2012 QuoteI tried it once years ago. I learned a couple of things, one wear long pants and long sleeves. Two, don't do that again regardless of clothing. Here's an interesting one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtCwvZaDB4 I was about 20ft away from that landing. A-Mazing.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wetrock 0 #22 March 29, 2012 QuoteA Bit like the one posted above in this thread perhaps? Post 14 :) thats funny i have been looking for that video for a while now. I remember the video having more talking in it and naming the jump MR Ted. Just curious who were the jumpers in that video and what are they up to now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #23 March 30, 2012 Well it really was completely safe, Mr Bill was wearing a Gath. What a cool jump.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasonm47 0 #24 April 3, 2012 That is a great quote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
