Stolen Re-Programmed Cypress AADs May Fire Unexpectedly

[Skwrl 56]

I'm curious - are you being intentionally deceptive? The fatality you linked to wasn't coached on the jump in question by the person they are talking about in this thread.

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[normiss 798]

Not deceptive in any way.
Read the thread - I never said Justin nor his school did or didn't do this.
I simply asked if they check leg straps as one of their previous "instructors" did not.

[theonlyski 8]

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Doesnt the rigger have to record the DOM so he will know when it has to be removed from your rig?

SN and DOM.

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[Bolas 5]

I'm curious what the firing parameters for the reprogrammed units were.

Does anyone know what alti the one jumper was at when his AAD fired?

[Calvin19 0]

hi i want to be an coach how can i do this thanks

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

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what skydiver steals AAD's and thinks he can get somehow away with it!? what skydiver puts another skydiver at risk of killing themselves with said AAD's!?

speaks volumes for said skydiver.. as putting putting up for said skydiver does, IMO.

This is far from the first time someone has made off with a bunch of CYPRES units and sold them to unsuspecting jumpers. There was an instance of such theft here Fayettevile/Raeford, NC in 1995 or 1996. the 10 units "mysteriously disappeared" from the USAPT rigger loft. All of them ended up in Panama, were sold abroad, and were found to be stolen when the units were sent back for 4-year checks. SEVERAL active duty and retired US Army people got in a lot of trouble over this.

Chuck

[The111 1]

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the 10 units "mysteriously disappeared" from the USAPT rigger loft. All of them ended up in Panama, were sold abroad, and were found to be stolen when the units were sent back for 4-year checks. SEVERAL active duty and retired US Army people got in a lot of trouble over this.

Wow, SEVERAL people splitting the profits of 10 AAD's... doesn't sound very profitable.

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[virgin-burner 1]

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what skydiver steals AAD's and thinks he can get somehow away with it!? what skydiver puts another skydiver at risk of killing themselves with said AAD's!?

speaks volumes for said skydiver.. as putting putting up for said skydiver does, IMO.

This is far from the first time someone has made off with a bunch of CYPRES units and sold them to unsuspecting jumpers. There was an instance of such theft here Fayettevile/Raeford, NC in 1995 or 1996. the 10 units "mysteriously disappeared" from the USAPT rigger loft. All of them ended up in Panama, were sold abroad, and were found to be stolen when the units were sent back for 4-year checks. SEVERAL active duty and retired US Army people got in a lot of trouble over this.

Chuck

doesnt change the fact that if a skydiver does this, that he's a lowlife fuck-nugget..

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[riggerrob 643]

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Doesnt the rigger have to record the DOM so he will know when it has to be removed from your rig?
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Better riggers write: AAD model, serial number, date of manufacture, last battery change and date of last factory inspection on the reserve packing data card.

They also note any Service Bulletins pertaining to the reserve canopy, harness or container.

If that requires three lines ... ho! hum! ... it is all part of documenting their work.

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And riggers that pack Argus units better also write down the DOM of the cutters

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[ShotterMG 0]

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What skydiver buys an AAD that is priced seriously under market value and doesn't question it. Am I wrong to think that it is common knowledge that you can value these units down to the dollar. If I could get a Cypres several hundred dollars under FMV I would want to know what is wrong with it, or who it was stolen from

Now you're blaming the buyers for not questioning the price? Wow.

It's common knowledge in skydiving that 'professonals' sometimes get sponsorship in the form of discounted gear. Is Sunpath gives Ian Bobo a new rig every year, it keeps him in pretty, new gear, and then he gets to sell last year's rig to put some cash in his pocket.

So this guy, who fancies himself a 'big deal' wingsuiter has a Cypres for sale below market value, and you think the buyers are to blame for not questioning the source of the product?

Even people who don't know about gear-based sponsorship probably think that 'big deal' skydivers have it made, and can afford to sell below market cost. Beyond that, who would think that someone who was tyring to (or already had) make a name for themselves in skydiving would sell a stolen Cypres, complete with a serial number that a rigger would be soon recording onto the reserve repack card? You still want to blame the buyers?

In the end, the guy was arrested and charged with larceny. I think that's the final word as to who was right or wrong in the transaction.

Once again Lepka talks knowingly out his ass and yet doesn't have a clue. fYI...being sponsored does not mean you get "free" rigs to resell at your pleasure. In fact, a sponsored athlete is absolutely not allowed to sell the gear. It is theirs only to use and must be returned when getting new gear. Obviously Lepka knows nothing about "gear based sponsorship", but as usual, is happy to talk out his ass at great lengths on just about any subject one can imagine.

[Zeemax 0]

Justin is now posting on other threads on DZ.com - perhaps someone could point him here so he could explain everything a little clearer?

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[cpoxon 0]

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Justin is now posting on other threads on DZ.com - perhaps someone could point him here so he could explain everything a little clearer?

I expect that it is sub judice.

Edit: Or maybe not, since it's different in the US to the UK. Still, I'd rather be tried in a court of law than on here.

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[lost_n_confuzd 0]

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Still, I'd rather be tried in a court of law than on here.

Not if I know I'm guilty. In that case I'd much rather be tried on here than in any court of law. Of course, skydiving for me is a hobby. If it were my career and my life and friends revolved around skydiving then I might take the courts over this place.

[DSE 5]

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I'm curious what the firing parameters for the reprogrammed units were.

Does anyone know what alti the one jumper was at when his AAD fired?

The rumor is 2000'. We all know the value of a rumor.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

Did anybody else notice the Aerodyne ad on the back cover of Parachutist this month?



I understand publishing lead times and such.

It was still ironic.

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Did anybody else notice the Aerodyne ad on the back cover of Parachutist this month?



I understand publishing lead times and such.

It was still ironic.

Yep :/

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[normiss 798]

Anybody hear how the plea deal worked out?

[DSE 5]

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Anybody hear how the plea deal worked out?

http://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/CaseDetail.aspx?source=Pending&Key=0debfa3c-7099-4152-b262-dd939dbc6af3

According to the courts page, it's still awaiting plea (set for November 8).

[Iswoopyou 0]

Apparently it didn't go too well since it seems like he's selling all of his equipment

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/detail_page.cgi?ID=118203&d=1

Anyone know further details and how long he's going away for if he is and what not?

[piisfish 140]

how do you relate this seller to the original person concerned ?

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[virgin-burner 1]

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how do you relate this seller to the original person concerned ?

http://www.dropzone.com/classifieds/images/ad_classifieds/8/253848-largest_296023_2389303532981_1262623195_32950783_4368390_n.jpg

that picture looks A LOT like justin..

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[SuperGirl 0]

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how do you relate this seller to the original person concerned ?

http://www.dropzone.com/classifieds/images/ad_classifieds/8/253848-largest_296023_2389303532981_1262623195_32950783_4368390_n.jpg

that picture looks A LOT like justin..

wtf guys.
That's Bryan. Local jumper here. Good guy.
Completely unrelated.
Sheesh.

[virgin-burner 1]

i didnt say it was him, just stated it looked a lot like him..

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[SuperGirl 0]

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i didnt say it was him, just stated it looked a lot like him..

yea I figured you may have either been sarcastic or meant it that way... just wanted to clarify