hongkongluna 0 #1 October 3, 2005 Jump # 2 yesterday for a coach level went well in ff. Once i deployed and checkd my canopy, had the oh shit moment where i saw what looked like tension knots or twists way up my control lines, maybe 2 feet down from the attachement points. At first, looked like line over on both sides of my canopy which my brain said didnt make sense cause i wasnt spinning or turning or anything like that and the canopy was out, square & stable. I wasnt prepared for what that looked like, didnt know what to do immediately but i was slightly above 3k and flying stable so i didnt panic. My controllability check went fine so i decided to land the parachute & everything went well. It was a little scary at first because it seemed like i was experiencing something that hadnt been covered in my FJC and thought i would have to chop if i couldnt steer with control lines. Lots of things went thru my head, esp, don't waste anytime cause the hard deck is approaching AND don't chop right away because it LOOKS like something is wrong. My question is, do i try and steer with rear risers if my control lines aren't "working" but my parachute is otherwise flying stable? I know that thats not what happened to me exactly but what if, lets say, my toggels fell off or both control lines were out of the picture? I did a search and read a few posts here but wonder whats applicable to a newbie flying a 220 main, student gear. Also, fyi i've never attempted to land using just risers. I will also discuss with my instructor again now that other questions have occurred to me but want to hear some input here also. My JM showed me why the twists happened and how to make sure they dont happen in the future. BUT, i'm not packing my own chute yet so its a matter of trusting my packers right now. He showed me how the toggles get twirled up...-Rainier Sparks Brother #1 // "I vaguely heard someone yell "wait!" but by that point i was out the door." Quote from dz.com somewhere Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #2 October 3, 2005 Steering with rear risers is a good idea. Before your next jump, ask your local instructor to assign a couple of rear riser turn exercises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackpunx 0 #3 October 3, 2005 QuoteSteering with rear risers is a good idea. Before your next jump, ask your local instructor to assign a couple of rear riser turn exercises. so you would say steering with your rear risers on your main is a good idea? does that pass a controlability check? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #4 October 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteSteering with rear risers is a good idea. Before your next jump, ask your local instructor to assign a couple of rear riser turn exercises. so you would say steering with your rear risers on your main is a good idea? does that pass a controlability check? It might, for an experienced jumper. IE if a toggle is stuck you could choose to cut that steering line with a hookknife and land on your rears, instead of chopping the canopy. But if you haven't talked to your instructors about this, stick to wat you've been taught! Rear risers can be used for steering and flaring but it is much easier to stall the canopy and the flare is less. If you never tried it, you're better off under your reserve than under a main that might stall a couple feet above the ground Example of a high speed rear riser stall (luckily, over water) is in this movie, starting at 3 mins 19 secs: http://www.12000ft.com/video/23.html ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
